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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
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minus_human
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
Is it true that firebathero used to be an average player who posted a blog about how he wanted to become a progamer, practicing on pgt, etc. and a lot of people followed it until he actually became good? Who does the hair/makeup for progamers before matches, they're really good. How much do tickets to important events such as proleague finals, osl semifinals, finals cost? | ||
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 21 2008 21:15 zulu_nation8 wrote: Can I ask questions about how you got involved in progaming, your personal thoughts, etc, if not then Is it true that firebathero used to be an average player who posted a blog about how he wanted to become a progamer, practicing on pgt, etc. and a lot of people followed it until he actually became good? Who does the hair/makeup for progamers before matches, they're really good. How much do tickets to important events such as proleague finals, osl semifinals, finals cost? Minus_human: LOL. That'd be a turn up for the books. He seems like a really nice guy though. He treats his fans well. ~~~~ Sure, I'm happy to share my experiences if you have anything specific you want to ask. I'm actually not too clued in about FBH's history. I'm definitely going to ask him for more insight this season and I'm hoping to secure an interview with him in the future for my site. It's a team of two ladies at COEX - they style all the gamers very quickly and each one recieves different levels of make up/hair styling depending upon the state of their skin etc. They so a nice job and add to the pleasant atmosphere back stage. They're free - I've never had to pay for any progaming events at all. Even the Khan fan meeting was free and they laid on a gorgeous lunch for us plus t-shirts, badges, snacks and prizes for the winners of the games we played. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 21 2008 21:26 Schnake wrote: I want progamer merchandise so badly. For instance a t-shirt of SKT1 or something like that, yet it is impossible to find that. Any tips? Unfortunately - what little progaming merchandise exists often requires you to wire money (even when buying it within Korea.) Or it's only available to fan club members/at live events. I recommend making contact with someone who lives in S.Korea and asking them to buy it for you or contacting an online shopping service to enquire about custom orders. There really isn't that much available right now - I'm hoping this will change in the near future what with the popularity of the 2008 team diaries which seemed to sell well to domestic progaming fans at the MBC Hero Centre. | ||
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 21 2008 21:51 Naib wrote: Wow, free lunch at a gross event for winning a few SC games? Makes me wanna visit Korea even more... I don't know why you'd say it was gross - did you attend? No. Therefore I don't think you're in any position to comment on it. Actually the event was part of a trend alot of progaming teams are entering into now - improving relations between their fans, the players and the management. It's got nothing to do with their standing in tournaments. All the teams do it currently (We Made, CJ and KTF have also all had larger scale meets or fan signings.) except for STX Soul who doesn't give any fan service. | ||
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Yaqoob
Canada3330 Posts
It has different meaning depending on the words after it and the sentence structure. | ||
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 21 2008 22:02 Yaqoob wrote: gross event means big event and not as in 'gross food' irrc. It has different meaning depending on the words after it and the sentence structure. O.o; I've never heard of this. Interesting. | ||
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Xeiji
Czech Republic12 Posts
Also, how many guys are among spectators usually, it seems like there are 90% girls. | ||
pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
Our forum should be overflowing with cute korean girls by now! | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
-- what is a typical training schedule for pro gamers? (in terms of what they do and how they go about doing it ?) | ||
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Spyder
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 21 2008 22:26 Xeiji wrote: How many people are attending live matches? Or simply how many places are available for spectators. Also, how many guys are among spectators usually, it seems like there are 90% girls. The venues have very different seating capacities and it often depends upon the time of the matches as well. For example the MBC Hero Centre is a very, very small venue which can only accomodate about a hundred and something people at a squash. There are about 12-15 rows of seats with 9 seats in a row - everyone else just has to stand up. Yongsan can accomodate alot more (maybe 300+ if you take standing room into account.) and it feels much more spacious than the tiny Coex venue. Live events are a different story entirely - they usually choose large venues like the DOM ArtHall in Children's Grand Park - which was host to the MSL S3 final and the GSI final. The turn out for the last couple of finals was rubbish in comparison to last season's MSL final etc - this might be attributed to far away locations (Kintex for the Proleague Grand Finals was an hour away from the centre of Seoul.) and also the new nature of the events themselves (GSI for example.) The turn out at Yongsan in comparison to other esports (like Kart Rider where usually only about 40 people turn up including the riders and crew.) is still decent and often bolstered by the support of the specific teams' fanclub members. The ratio is definitely unbalanced. The MBC Hero Centre attracts alot of foot traffic and some guys do come in that way, but alot more girls make the specific trip to see their favourite teams. Visits to proleague are often co-ordinated through the fanclubs/daum cafes so girls come in large groups to attend the matches/fan meets together. Most of the ones you see on TV are friends and members of the same clubs. | ||
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 21 2008 22:57 pachi wrote: Why aren't you recruiting people to come visit teamliquid.net > Our forum should be overflowing with cute korean girls by now! Hahaha sorry Pachi. I promise to get more Korean fans to visit tl.net in the future! | ||
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 21 2008 23:03 Kage wrote: --Who do the progamers fancy the most? -- what is a typical training schedule for pro gamers? (in terms of what they do and how they go about doing it ?) I'd assume their girlfriends if they have them. Well I'm not familiar enough with the other teams to know their training schedules, but when we spoke to Khan's Favian he said he trains rigorously because he's determined to make a name for himself in the future. I think alot of the players apply the same focus to their regimes. I'm hoping to be able to provide more specific information in the future about how the progamers live day to day so please be patient. | ||
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 21 2008 23:22 Spyder wrote: nevergg it seems that you are familiar with KHAN team but im also interested in Lecaf and it would be nice if you tell us how do they train (i mean shedule and that stuff coz Kage im sure that nevergg doesnt know what kind of special training do progamers do). Btw it would be nice of you translate that interview wiht BackHo when he won JD and GGplay in the OSL. I have met Coach Cho before so I'm hoping to approach him at the next proleague I attend where Lecaf are playing and ask him about his players. It depends upon if my friend can come to translate for me (I actually only speak a small amount of Korean.) I'm definitely going to try and provide some more specific information as I mentioned in my last comment about the way progamers live currently in the future ^^. | ||
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Vaanelo
Canada128 Posts
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Navane
Netherlands2748 Posts
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ther
Hungary252 Posts
The other thing im curious about is that which progamer is smoking nowadays? There was a thread about it long ago, but its expired a bit. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On April 21 2008 23:34 Vaanelo wrote: how much do the progamer hair styles cost? i heard they are very expensive several hundred $ USD LOL WTF i guess if ur getting a 'progamer hair style' in the US...haha | ||
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 22 2008 00:16 ther wrote: I'd like to ask you about the other popular games that are on TV, have competitons etc (like Kart Rider or maybe Warcraft III?). And what are the most famous MMORPGs? The other thing im curious about is that which progamer is smoking nowadays? There was a thread about it long ago, but its expired a bit. Sure ~ I've not been to any of the Halo/WoW events yet, but I'm definitely planning to. I'll also be covering Sudden Attack Master League when possible just for fun. I've been to Kart Rider several times now and the atmosphere is totally different to SC events - it's alot more relaxed than even proleague (which can get pretty crazy at times depending on the teams attending it.) Most of the other esports in S.Korea are smaller scale (actually come to think of it all of them are.) and the turn out from fans is alot smaller too so most of their popularity comes from online access. Currently the main games also shown on OGN/MBC which seem pretty wide spread in their popularity are Maplestory, Sudden Attack, Special Force, Halo 3 and Lineage 2. Sudden Attack even has a current league for women which is shown during the week. I'm not too knowledgable about anything beyond SC live events ~ but I'm going to expand the number of events I go to so I'll keep everyone posted if there are any major developments in esports aside from SC. I haven't seen anyone at SC, but I know most of the Kart Rider players are smokers (no Moon Hojoon is not lol.) | ||
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SayaSP
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.kaz
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 22 2008 02:41 .kaz wrote: Have you met, talked to, and taken pictures of / with GoodFriend? If so, would you mind sharing the story, or any pictures you may have? Thanks! I met the Estro team for the first time on Sunday at proleague. I've only spoke to Goodfriend briefly backstage (just to say hello.) whilst I was photographing the team chowing down on McDonalds and chatting. I didn't take alot of photos of him, but I'll be covering Estro again later this season ^^. Here's a (slightly blurry lol) shot of him I took before the matches began; (I'll be uploading my other photos from the event tomorrow night.) ![[image loading]](http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk5/neverggg/goodfriend.jpg) | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On April 21 2008 21:15 zulu_nation8 wrote: How much do tickets to important events such as proleague finals, osl semifinals, finals cost? There was like one final that OGN tried to charge admission for years ago, and the fans did NOT take it well... since then, they've always been free. | ||
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ryung70
Germany227 Posts
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 22 2008 09:23 ryung70 wrote: which venue you prefer regarding studio/atmosphere? OGN or MBC. I used to prefer the smaller setting of the MBC Hero Centre because I hadn't actually visited Yongsan until I began attending Kart Rider events this month. However, now I prefer Yongsan - the lighting is better for photos, there are more fans attending and it's connected to a much less crowded mall so it's more fun to go earlier and just relax before doing the photos for a report. Having said that - Coex still has a good atmosphere - because all the fans are in a small space (and often know eachother) it has a rather cozy atmosphere. During fan meets the players often just come out and sit down on the benches with their fans. | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
-- Who are the other photographers you have seen at the event ? (your competitors?) -- What are the must knows for those wanting to get into photography? (any tips you can offer people who want to take great pics). -- What is the best part about being in a live event? -- Have you ever taken pics of people crying at any events? | ||
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
On April 25 2008 16:42 Kage wrote: Ok this is a personal question. -- Who are the other photographers you have seen at the event ? (your competitors?) -- What are the must knows for those wanting to get into photography? (any tips you can offer people who want to take great pics). -- What is the best part about being in a live event? -- Have you ever taken pics of people crying at any events? No offense but can you make better questions? -_- | ||
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 25 2008 16:42 Kage wrote: Ok this is a personal question. -- Who are the other photographers you have seen at the event ? (your competitors?) -- What are the must knows for those wanting to get into photography? (any tips you can offer people who want to take great pics). -- What is the best part about being in a live event? -- Have you ever taken pics of people crying at any events? - I don't feel as though I'm in competition with anyone. Especially seen as the photographers I see at live events all work for Korean websites so our photos don't really end up in the same places. I see the people from Fomos, Fighterforum and i'm friends with one of the MyDaily photographers (who is a lovely guy.) - Tbh I'm still learning myself. Personally my best tip is to photograph something you're passionate about - landscapes, animals - anything as long as you enjoy it. I think it enhances your enthusiasm and creativity. It's definitely a good first step to expanding out into areas of picture-taking you might not feel so comfortable with (I'm not good with landscapes, but I love photographing people.) Also research what equipment suits the types of photographs you're looking to take. When I was deciding upon my current lens I chose something (with the help of my camera club friend.) that was decent for low lighting (like they have in some parts of the MBC Hero Centre.) and action shots (for all those ceremonies.) - The freebies. Hahaha....well aside from those free CJ cheese sticks. I love seeing the fans working together to support their favourite players and teams - they make an amazing atmosphere at times and all the emotion of SC for both fans and players is something I love photographing. - I took some pictures of FBH after his match at the Proleague 2007 Grand Finals. They were with my older lens though (so they were rubbish) and out of respect for him I decided not to share them. I don't mind capturing the sentiments of the players and fans, but I feel there are times when you should put your camera down and allow them to have personal moments without contributing to the attention focused upon them. | ||
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Lhyviathan
Australia975 Posts
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 26 2008 19:41 Lhyviathan wrote: How much Korean did you know before flying over to teach English there? I could read hangul (just about) due to a friend teaching me at uni, but other than that I knew nothing. There are some great books for studying including Arirang's Korean Basics which I've bought since I got here ^^. | ||
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.MistiK
Netherlands347 Posts
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On April 27 2008 22:19 .MistiK wrote: are you still building websites for the pro teams? I'm hoping to speed up the work on the NeverGG website asap (It's been so busy at work with a workshop and contest I've not had time to send the new photos to my designer) and I'm trying to start preparation on a CJ site, but it'll be a while before I have time ^^; | ||
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kpcrew
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proA.June91
Vietnam445 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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