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"Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed"

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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
April 20 2008 08:48 GMT
#1
Note: This post has been moved from the general forum on advice from an admin.

"Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" is the most recent effort from creationists to attain a niche of credibility by throwing mud at the public image of the theory of evolution and science in general. Ben Stein, the host, claims that the scientific community persecutes those that dare question "darwinism", that the theory of evolution is impotent because it cannot explain the origin of life or gravity (yes, this is supposed to make sense) and that "darwinism" was necessary for the holocaust to take place.

The trailer:


You may have noticed that figures such as Richard Dawkins and Daniel Dennet are featured in the film. They, as well as others (PZ Meyers, Eugenie Scott, Michael Shermer), have been duped into giving interviews that can later be edited (it's obvious even in the trailer that Dawkins' sentence is edited from 2 other sentences). The producers pretended they were making an objective documentary about the intersection of religion and science called "Crossroads". When later challenged on this, they claimed it was only a working title and that this is common when producing documentaries. However the name "Expelled" had been reserved by the producers months prior to the interview, so it is now clear it was a deliberate and dishonest maneuver.

After a spectacularly ironic public relations blunder where they expelled one of the scientists that is featured in the film from a screening (read his blog entry, its hilarious), one has to wonder if this isn't too stupid to be true. Well, it doesn't stop here. They even went so far as to steal a harvard video and then claim it as their own!

Read a detailed review here and learn about the simple falsehood at the heart of Expelled. Richard Dawkins' review of the film can be found here.



Eugenie Scott has set up a site exposing this movie at expelledexposed.com.

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"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 20 2008 08:56 GMT
#2
LOL i did not know ben stein was an ID proponent

wow ben stein, wow
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hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
April 20 2008 09:13 GMT
#3
Life came from mud and lightning? This is retarded, I've read a lot about the theory of biochemical evolution and I've never encountered stuff like mud and lightning being mixed and BANG - you have some primitive cells. Life on Earth is a mystery still, ok, that's not what the theory of evolution is all about.

And the concentration camp idea? Wow, omg, now this is wrong... Darwin can't be held responsible for the way people interpret his ideas. Or any other man...

I got angry by this...
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drift0ut
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United Kingdom691 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-20 09:23:27
April 20 2008 09:17 GMT
#4
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 20 2008 10:54 GMT
#5
I won't repost the text I wrote.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
April 20 2008 18:56 GMT
#6
Rather than attempting to do research and have it published in credible, peer-reviewed scientific journals, they make a "witty, and controversial" documentary meant to appeal to the uneducated. This is the wedge strategy at its finest.
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NathanSC
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States620 Posts
April 20 2008 19:00 GMT
#7
On April 21 2008 03:56 Mindcrime wrote:
Rather than attempting to do research and have it published in credible, peer-reviewed scientific journals, they make a "witty, and controversial" documentary meant to appeal to the uneducated. This is the wedge strategy at its finest.

.MistiK
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Netherlands347 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-20 20:16:18
April 20 2008 20:15 GMT
#8
For everyone who enjoys seeing a christian getting owned by a scientist
kekekekyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada32 Posts
April 20 2008 20:40 GMT
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
April 20 2008 21:58 GMT
#10
On April 21 2008 05:15 .MistiK wrote:
For everyone who enjoys seeing a christian getting owned by a scientist

lol good read

The Second Law of Thermodynamics argument is one of the hoariest, silliest claims in the creationist collection. It's self-refuting. Point to the creationist: ask whether he was a baby once. Has he grown? Has he become larger and more complex? Isn't he standing there in violation of the second law himself? Demand that he immediately regress to a slimy puddle of mingled menses and semen.

hahaha
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
April 23 2008 14:51 GMT
#11
sorry for bumb

are there any torrents for this movie yet?
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