• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:24
CET 13:24
KST 21:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview3RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion3Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 104
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1248 users

Bye Bye Aiur

Blogs > EtherealDeath
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 21:59:48
April 10 2008 21:50 GMT
#1
I have deserted to the terran ranks. They are more fun :-(. Maybe I will be back at the bottom of TSL soon....haha

*watches warily for DTs.......*

EDIT: Fuck, so I had to leave a game I was winning rather handily (just finishing off the other guy) cause had to run to class...apparently I alt+F4'd out and sooo now its not on my iccup record as a loss. Hope that doesn't count as disc abuse or something :-(.

*****
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
April 10 2008 21:53 GMT
#2
Good luck.

Terran is hard
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
April 10 2008 22:04 GMT
#3
You weakling...

+ Show Spoiler +
( Nooby ) Toss for life
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 10 2008 22:05 GMT
#4
Well, that's funny, I just decided to quit Terran, because it's the most boring and hardest race of all.

/rant mode on:

I hope you don't mind to do repetitive APM practise to get to the required 250 minimum, hope you don't mind being restricted to two BO's for every match-up either. Further, I hope you don't mind being frequently cheesed by Zergs, hope you don't mind being proxy-DTed by Protoss now and then.

For if you care about something of the above-mentioned, you're entering a world of pain, which I, on the other hand, am about to leave..

If you're looking for a very well classified TvX replaypack, just PM me. And good luck of course.
Adams Æbler
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
April 10 2008 22:32 GMT
#5
I too have deserted the Protoss. I left for Zerg. When playing Protoss my favourite part was the feeling of being a tsunami when I crashed my goons and lots into a tank push. I found out I can get that tsunami feeling against any race as Zerg.

Also, I like the hotkeys more. 1sd2sd3sd for life.
Kk.
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 22:39:39
April 10 2008 22:39 GMT
#6
Greetings, Executor. Though we all grieve for the loss of mighty EtherealDeath, we must find the resolve to carry on. He sacrificed himself to destroy the Overmind, but many Zerg still rage across our ruined homeworld. Without the Conclave to lead us, or the protection of our great fleets, it seems we must fend for ourselves.
aaaaa
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 10 2008 22:42 GMT
#7
On April 11 2008 07:05 d1v wrote:
Well, that's funny, I just decided to quit Terran, because it's the most boring and hardest race of all.

/rant mode on:

I hope you don't mind to do repetitive APM practise to get to the required 250 minimum, hope you don't mind being restricted to two BO's for every match-up either. Further, I hope you don't mind being frequently cheesed by Zergs, hope you don't mind being proxy-DTed by Protoss now and then.

For if you care about something of the above-mentioned, you're entering a world of pain, which I, on the other hand, am about to leave..

If you're looking for a very well classified TvX replaypack, just PM me. And good luck of course.

Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
April 10 2008 22:48 GMT
#8
I too have left Protoss for Zerg. Protoss are fun in pvp and pvz, but they are boring as hell in pvt. Protoss is a good race because you can be aggressive, I love the feeling of running over an enemy, like another said "like a tsunami". However, Zerg does this so much better. I no long have to worry about thousands of spider mines! I am so happy
Can you dig it?
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 10 2008 23:00 GMT
#9
Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!


Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..
Adams Æbler
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
April 10 2008 23:13 GMT
#10
On April 11 2008 08:00 d1v wrote:
Show nested quote +
Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!


Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..

ah yes terrans few(?) viable options such as 3rax acad, BBS, 2rax acad, every type of FE - for zerg 1Fac FE or a ton of different 2fac options for toss and five builds off the top of my head for TVT -- terran has very limited options alright
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 10 2008 23:13 GMT
#11
2 rax CC, 1 rax CC, no rax CC, 8 rax, BBS I guess 2 rax normal play could be counted, I wish it was still the standard TvZ opening ;( 1 rax tech (vults or wraiths).

It sucks that some of these builds have become, seemingly, less used in the last couple of years.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
SweetPeanut
Profile Joined April 2008
Vatican City State12 Posts
April 10 2008 23:14 GMT
#12
On April 11 2008 08:00 d1v wrote:
Show nested quote +
Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!


Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..


Just cause most Terran players are robotic doesn't mean there's not plenty of openings. 3 rax sunken break, 1 rax expo, 1 rax acad fast attack, vults, 2 port wraith -> drops, fast dropship and acad, etc

Of course not playing standard could make you lose. There's always the risk that an unorthodox opening could backfire and fuck you. There's also the chance it will own, which is why you do it.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 10 2008 23:24 GMT
#13
Well, there's not much of a difference between 1 Barracks FE and 2 Barracks FE. The additional Barrack just gives you a bit more flexibility, if Z tries anything funny. Then, expanding without any Barrack is just ridiculous, how would you do that in TvZ? There are some quite cool openings like 1 Barrack 1 Factory into Vulture harassment or some Wraith builds, but good luck on pulling these off if you're below 300 APM. Nope, for me it really is time to try out some other races (and to go to bed btw )and be it just for the sake of not losing interest in the game.
Adams Æbler
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 23:28:38
April 10 2008 23:24 GMT
#14
On April 11 2008 08:00 d1v wrote:
Show nested quote +
Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!


Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..

Believe me 80% of your z build get countered so badly at c- lvl. It's not even questionnable.
And i know what i'm talkin' about.
Edit : Zerg DOES have the less openings than the 2 others races.
There's soooo many Terran openings so i won't mention them but you clearly said you lack of some cheeses strats.
Not my fault if you do everytime the same build again and again.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 23:34:59
April 10 2008 23:34 GMT
#15
Believe me 80% of your z build get countered so badly at c- lvl. It's not even questionnable.
And i know what i'm talkin' about.


How do they get "countered"? You know, I could do some fucking all-in stuff all the time, but I'd really like to play some games that last longer than 10 mins...

Edit : Zerg DOES have the less openings than the 2 others races.
There's soooo many Terran openings so i won't mention them but you clearly said you lack of some cheeses strats.
Not my fault if you do everytime the same build again and again.


I really don't agree with you there. I never complained about not having any cheese BO's, because in fact, I do have some. That's not the point of the argument. I'm barely stating, that given you're opting for a really interesting, challenging and to a certain degree "fair" game, Terran's options for opening are severly cut down.
Adams Æbler
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
April 11 2008 00:08 GMT
#16
Greetings, Executor. Though we all grieve for the loss of mighty EtherealDeath, we must find the resolve to carry on. He sacrificed himself to destroy the Overmind, but many Zerg still rage across our ruined homeworld. Without the Conclave to lead us, or the protection of our great fleets, it seems we must fend for ourselves.

I loled
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 11 2008 01:25 GMT
#17
cut SCVs, do a timing push on P. win.
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
April 11 2008 03:01 GMT
#18
Protoss is the my way of life.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
April 11 2008 03:12 GMT
#19
On April 11 2008 08:34 d1v wrote:
Show nested quote +
Believe me 80% of your z build get countered so badly at c- lvl. It's not even questionnable.
And i know what i'm talkin' about.


How do they get "countered"? You know, I could do some fucking all-in stuff all the time, but I'd really like to play some games that last longer than 10 mins...

Show nested quote +
Edit : Zerg DOES have the less openings than the 2 others races.
There's soooo many Terran openings so i won't mention them but you clearly said you lack of some cheeses strats.
Not my fault if you do everytime the same build again and again.


I really don't agree with you there. I never complained about not having any cheese BO's, because in fact, I do have some. That's not the point of the argument. I'm barely stating, that given you're opting for a really interesting, challenging and to a certain degree "fair" game, Terran's options for opening are severly cut down.


So does Zerg then. Actually it's even more risky. Why ? Simply just think about what a T with only 1 base can do while wallin and get ready to shots those pesky overs that try to spot your cheese strat. While with zerg it gets easily countered by scv running around and more importantly : 2 scans. Hell even with one base he could get 2 scans before moving out to see what you're up to. This is just so easy to spot. Burrow glings ? Blah works only vs beginners. Lurks rush ? Easy to scout it. Mutas with 1 base ? Again easy to scout it. The only viable zerg's opening is Pool 5 oO There are not any others viables openings besides 3 hatches lurks or 3 hatches mutas. It's just ridiculous to say that Zergs have more openings than terran, unless you don't care about losing.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
April 11 2008 05:01 GMT
#20
On April 11 2008 07:39 Zanno wrote:
Greetings, Executor. Though we all grieve for the loss of mighty EtherealDeath, we must find the resolve to carry on. He sacrificed himself to destroy the Overmind, but many Zerg still rage across our ruined homeworld. Without the Conclave to lead us, or the protection of our great fleets, it seems we must fend for ourselves.

En tara adun. May his sacrafice be remembered in the archives for eons to come.
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
12:00
Bonus Cup #1
uThermal348
IndyStarCraft 223
SteadfastSC84
MindelVK18
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 394
uThermal 348
IndyStarCraft 223
Lowko102
SteadfastSC 84
BRAT_OK 59
MindelVK 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4386
Rain 2625
Horang2 1104
EffOrt 579
BeSt 404
firebathero 258
Rush 257
Last 204
Hm[arnc] 198
ggaemo 192
[ Show more ]
Killer 179
Pusan 151
Mong 113
Zeus 110
Hyun 108
Barracks 93
JYJ 92
Aegong 91
Leta 80
Bonyth 64
Mind 54
Shuttle 51
Nal_rA 46
ToSsGirL 40
910 39
yabsab 33
Free 30
Sexy 21
zelot 20
Shine 19
Sacsri 16
GoRush 16
Bale 14
SilentControl 13
scan(afreeca) 9
Terrorterran 6
HiyA 5
Dota 2
Gorgc2175
XcaliburYe308
League of Legends
C9.Mang0411
rGuardiaN18
Counter-Strike
zeus840
oskar93
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor139
Other Games
singsing1963
B2W.Neo1048
Pyrionflax329
Sick251
crisheroes227
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2223
StarCraft 2
WardiTV979
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 27
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 64
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1716
Upcoming Events
AI Arena Tournament
7h 36m
BSL 21
7h 36m
Mihu vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs Sziky
Bonyth vs DuGu
XuanXuan vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs eOnzErG
All-Star Invitational
13h 51m
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 36m
OSC
23h 36m
BSL 21
1d 7h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Wardi Open
1d 23h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Big Brain Bouts
6 days
Serral vs TBD
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.