• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:57
CEST 20:57
KST 03:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver2[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon74Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?173Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92 IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Broodwar Prediction Market
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6894 users

Bye Bye Aiur

Blogs > EtherealDeath
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 21:59:48
April 10 2008 21:50 GMT
#1
I have deserted to the terran ranks. They are more fun :-(. Maybe I will be back at the bottom of TSL soon....haha

*watches warily for DTs.......*

EDIT: Fuck, so I had to leave a game I was winning rather handily (just finishing off the other guy) cause had to run to class...apparently I alt+F4'd out and sooo now its not on my iccup record as a loss. Hope that doesn't count as disc abuse or something :-(.

*****
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
April 10 2008 21:53 GMT
#2
Good luck.

Terran is hard
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
April 10 2008 22:04 GMT
#3
You weakling...

+ Show Spoiler +
( Nooby ) Toss for life
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 10 2008 22:05 GMT
#4
Well, that's funny, I just decided to quit Terran, because it's the most boring and hardest race of all.

/rant mode on:

I hope you don't mind to do repetitive APM practise to get to the required 250 minimum, hope you don't mind being restricted to two BO's for every match-up either. Further, I hope you don't mind being frequently cheesed by Zergs, hope you don't mind being proxy-DTed by Protoss now and then.

For if you care about something of the above-mentioned, you're entering a world of pain, which I, on the other hand, am about to leave..

If you're looking for a very well classified TvX replaypack, just PM me. And good luck of course.
Adams Æbler
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
April 10 2008 22:32 GMT
#5
I too have deserted the Protoss. I left for Zerg. When playing Protoss my favourite part was the feeling of being a tsunami when I crashed my goons and lots into a tank push. I found out I can get that tsunami feeling against any race as Zerg.

Also, I like the hotkeys more. 1sd2sd3sd for life.
Kk.
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 22:39:39
April 10 2008 22:39 GMT
#6
Greetings, Executor. Though we all grieve for the loss of mighty EtherealDeath, we must find the resolve to carry on. He sacrificed himself to destroy the Overmind, but many Zerg still rage across our ruined homeworld. Without the Conclave to lead us, or the protection of our great fleets, it seems we must fend for ourselves.
aaaaa
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 10 2008 22:42 GMT
#7
On April 11 2008 07:05 d1v wrote:
Well, that's funny, I just decided to quit Terran, because it's the most boring and hardest race of all.

/rant mode on:

I hope you don't mind to do repetitive APM practise to get to the required 250 minimum, hope you don't mind being restricted to two BO's for every match-up either. Further, I hope you don't mind being frequently cheesed by Zergs, hope you don't mind being proxy-DTed by Protoss now and then.

For if you care about something of the above-mentioned, you're entering a world of pain, which I, on the other hand, am about to leave..

If you're looking for a very well classified TvX replaypack, just PM me. And good luck of course.

Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
April 10 2008 22:48 GMT
#8
I too have left Protoss for Zerg. Protoss are fun in pvp and pvz, but they are boring as hell in pvt. Protoss is a good race because you can be aggressive, I love the feeling of running over an enemy, like another said "like a tsunami". However, Zerg does this so much better. I no long have to worry about thousands of spider mines! I am so happy
Can you dig it?
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 10 2008 23:00 GMT
#9
Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!


Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..
Adams Æbler
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
April 10 2008 23:13 GMT
#10
On April 11 2008 08:00 d1v wrote:
Show nested quote +
Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!


Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..

ah yes terrans few(?) viable options such as 3rax acad, BBS, 2rax acad, every type of FE - for zerg 1Fac FE or a ton of different 2fac options for toss and five builds off the top of my head for TVT -- terran has very limited options alright
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
April 10 2008 23:13 GMT
#11
2 rax CC, 1 rax CC, no rax CC, 8 rax, BBS I guess 2 rax normal play could be counted, I wish it was still the standard TvZ opening ;( 1 rax tech (vults or wraiths).

It sucks that some of these builds have become, seemingly, less used in the last couple of years.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
SweetPeanut
Profile Joined April 2008
Vatican City State12 Posts
April 10 2008 23:14 GMT
#12
On April 11 2008 08:00 d1v wrote:
Show nested quote +
Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!


Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..


Just cause most Terran players are robotic doesn't mean there's not plenty of openings. 3 rax sunken break, 1 rax expo, 1 rax acad fast attack, vults, 2 port wraith -> drops, fast dropship and acad, etc

Of course not playing standard could make you lose. There's always the risk that an unorthodox opening could backfire and fuck you. There's also the chance it will own, which is why you do it.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 10 2008 23:24 GMT
#13
Well, there's not much of a difference between 1 Barracks FE and 2 Barracks FE. The additional Barrack just gives you a bit more flexibility, if Z tries anything funny. Then, expanding without any Barrack is just ridiculous, how would you do that in TvZ? There are some quite cool openings like 1 Barrack 1 Factory into Vulture harassment or some Wraith builds, but good luck on pulling these off if you're below 300 APM. Nope, for me it really is time to try out some other races (and to go to bed btw )and be it just for the sake of not losing interest in the game.
Adams Æbler
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 23:28:38
April 10 2008 23:24 GMT
#14
On April 11 2008 08:00 d1v wrote:
Show nested quote +
Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back.

Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg!


Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..

Believe me 80% of your z build get countered so badly at c- lvl. It's not even questionnable.
And i know what i'm talkin' about.
Edit : Zerg DOES have the less openings than the 2 others races.
There's soooo many Terran openings so i won't mention them but you clearly said you lack of some cheeses strats.
Not my fault if you do everytime the same build again and again.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-10 23:34:59
April 10 2008 23:34 GMT
#15
Believe me 80% of your z build get countered so badly at c- lvl. It's not even questionnable.
And i know what i'm talkin' about.


How do they get "countered"? You know, I could do some fucking all-in stuff all the time, but I'd really like to play some games that last longer than 10 mins...

Edit : Zerg DOES have the less openings than the 2 others races.
There's soooo many Terran openings so i won't mention them but you clearly said you lack of some cheeses strats.
Not my fault if you do everytime the same build again and again.


I really don't agree with you there. I never complained about not having any cheese BO's, because in fact, I do have some. That's not the point of the argument. I'm barely stating, that given you're opting for a really interesting, challenging and to a certain degree "fair" game, Terran's options for opening are severly cut down.
Adams Æbler
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
April 11 2008 00:08 GMT
#16
Greetings, Executor. Though we all grieve for the loss of mighty EtherealDeath, we must find the resolve to carry on. He sacrificed himself to destroy the Overmind, but many Zerg still rage across our ruined homeworld. Without the Conclave to lead us, or the protection of our great fleets, it seems we must fend for ourselves.

I loled
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 11 2008 01:25 GMT
#17
cut SCVs, do a timing push on P. win.
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
April 11 2008 03:01 GMT
#18
Protoss is the my way of life.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
April 11 2008 03:12 GMT
#19
On April 11 2008 08:34 d1v wrote:
Show nested quote +
Believe me 80% of your z build get countered so badly at c- lvl. It's not even questionnable.
And i know what i'm talkin' about.


How do they get "countered"? You know, I could do some fucking all-in stuff all the time, but I'd really like to play some games that last longer than 10 mins...

Show nested quote +
Edit : Zerg DOES have the less openings than the 2 others races.
There's soooo many Terran openings so i won't mention them but you clearly said you lack of some cheeses strats.
Not my fault if you do everytime the same build again and again.


I really don't agree with you there. I never complained about not having any cheese BO's, because in fact, I do have some. That's not the point of the argument. I'm barely stating, that given you're opting for a really interesting, challenging and to a certain degree "fair" game, Terran's options for opening are severly cut down.


So does Zerg then. Actually it's even more risky. Why ? Simply just think about what a T with only 1 base can do while wallin and get ready to shots those pesky overs that try to spot your cheese strat. While with zerg it gets easily countered by scv running around and more importantly : 2 scans. Hell even with one base he could get 2 scans before moving out to see what you're up to. This is just so easy to spot. Burrow glings ? Blah works only vs beginners. Lurks rush ? Easy to scout it. Mutas with 1 base ? Again easy to scout it. The only viable zerg's opening is Pool 5 oO There are not any others viables openings besides 3 hatches lurks or 3 hatches mutas. It's just ridiculous to say that Zergs have more openings than terran, unless you don't care about losing.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
April 11 2008 05:01 GMT
#20
On April 11 2008 07:39 Zanno wrote:
Greetings, Executor. Though we all grieve for the loss of mighty EtherealDeath, we must find the resolve to carry on. He sacrificed himself to destroy the Overmind, but many Zerg still rage across our ruined homeworld. Without the Conclave to lead us, or the protection of our great fleets, it seems we must fend for ourselves.

En tara adun. May his sacrafice be remembered in the archives for eons to come.
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BlizzCon
18:30
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
IdrA vs MC
StarCraft2806
TaKeTV 296
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1138
Tasteless 876
mouzHeroMarine 365
IndyStarCraft 262
BRAT_OK 93
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22958
Calm 3107
Shuttle 1035
Artosis 961
Mini 187
Dewaltoss 140
firebathero 135
CosmosSc2 62
Sea.KH 41
Mong 32
[ Show more ]
sSak 18
Trap 17
Dota 2
qojqva3666
canceldota49
febbydoto27
League of Legends
goblin8
Counter-Strike
byalli827
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox303
C9.Mang0186
Mew2King133
Chillindude19
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu520
MindelVK13
Other Games
Grubby5414
summit1g4589
Liquid`RaSZi2306
fl0m939
singsing853
B2W.Neo535
Mlord469
mouzStarbuck329
Hui .132
XaKoH 108
Pyrionflax84
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2371
EGCTV1343
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 1048
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm681
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 601
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH402
• EnkiAlexander 99
• Hupsaiya 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki42
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3193
• masondota21057
Other Games
• Shiphtur239
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
15h 3m
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
16h 3m
Monday Night Weeklies
21h 3m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
1d 16h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
GSL
6 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
6 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.