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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
*watches warily for DTs.......* EDIT: Fuck, so I had to leave a game I was winning rather handily (just finishing off the other guy) cause had to run to class...apparently I alt+F4'd out and sooo now its not on my iccup record as a loss. Hope that doesn't count as disc abuse or something :-(.  | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
Terran is hard  | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ( Nooby ) Toss for life  | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
/rant mode on: I hope you don't mind to do repetitive APM practise to get to the required 250 minimum, hope you don't mind being restricted to two BO's for every match-up either. Further, I hope you don't mind being frequently cheesed by Zergs, hope you don't mind being proxy-DTed by Protoss now and then. For if you care about something of the above-mentioned, you're entering a world of pain, which I, on the other hand, am about to leave.. If you're looking for a very well classified TvX replaypack, just PM me. And good luck of course. | ||
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Kwidowmaker
Canada978 Posts
Also, I like the hotkeys more. 1sd2sd3sd for life. | ||
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On April 11 2008 07:05 d1v wrote: Well, that's funny, I just decided to quit Terran, because it's the most boring and hardest race of all. /rant mode on: I hope you don't mind to do repetitive APM practise to get to the required 250 minimum, hope you don't mind being restricted to two BO's for every match-up either. Further, I hope you don't mind being frequently cheesed by Zergs, hope you don't mind being proxy-DTed by Protoss now and then. For if you care about something of the above-mentioned, you're entering a world of pain, which I, on the other hand, am about to leave.. If you're looking for a very well classified TvX replaypack, just PM me. And good luck of course. Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back. Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg! | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
Haha what? A terran player complaining about getting cheesed by ZERG? Oh man, zergs were getting bunker rushed EVERY game for like an entire year a while back. Also, a terran player complaining about lack of diversity.. Hm, maybe less than toss in todays game, but at least you have more openings than zerg! Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options.. | ||
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Cube
Canada777 Posts
On April 11 2008 08:00 d1v wrote: Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..ah yes terrans few(?) viable options such as 3rax acad, BBS, 2rax acad, every type of FE - for zerg 1Fac FE or a ton of different 2fac options for toss and five builds off the top of my head for TVT -- terran has very limited options alright | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
 I guess 2 rax normal play could be counted, I wish it was still the standard TvZ opening ;( 1 rax tech (vults or wraiths).It sucks that some of these builds have become, seemingly, less used in the last couple of years. | ||
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SweetPeanut
Vatican City State12 Posts
On April 11 2008 08:00 d1v wrote: Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..Just cause most Terran players are robotic doesn't mean there's not plenty of openings. 3 rax sunken break, 1 rax expo, 1 rax acad fast attack, vults, 2 port wraith -> drops, fast dropship and acad, etc Of course not playing standard could make you lose. There's always the risk that an unorthodox opening could backfire and fuck you. There's also the chance it will own, which is why you do it. | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
 )and be it just for the sake of not losing interest in the game. | ||
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On April 11 2008 08:00 d1v wrote: Lol, our points of view seem differ quite a lot Anyways, I'm not the man for cheese, so if there's some cheese, it will be me on the back-end of it. Interesting to see you saying, that Z has less options than T, because in my eyes, T is much more limited concerning unit choice and strategy choice as well. In TvZ, Z can viably open with 4/5-pool, 9-pool, 2 Hatch Lurker, 2 Hatch Mutalisk, 3 Hatch Lurker, 3 Hatch Mutalisk or even 3 Hatch Mutalisk into Ultralisk/Zergling to name them. Now compare this to Terrans viable options..Believe me 80% of your z build get countered so badly at c- lvl. It's not even questionnable. And i know what i'm talkin' about. Edit : Zerg DOES have the less openings than the 2 others races. There's soooo many Terran openings so i won't mention them but you clearly said you lack of some cheeses strats. Not my fault if you do everytime the same build again and again. | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
Believe me 80% of your z build get countered so badly at c- lvl. It's not even questionnable. And i know what i'm talkin' about. How do they get "countered"? You know, I could do some fucking all-in stuff all the time, but I'd really like to play some games that last longer than 10 mins... Edit : Zerg DOES have the less openings than the 2 others races. There's soooo many Terran openings so i won't mention them but you clearly said you lack of some cheeses strats. Not my fault if you do everytime the same build again and again. I really don't agree with you there. I never complained about not having any cheese BO's, because in fact, I do have some. That's not the point of the argument. I'm barely stating, that given you're opting for a really interesting, challenging and to a certain degree "fair" game, Terran's options for opening are severly cut down. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Greetings, Executor. Though we all grieve for the loss of mighty EtherealDeath, we must find the resolve to carry on. He sacrificed himself to destroy the Overmind, but many Zerg still rage across our ruined homeworld. Without the Conclave to lead us, or the protection of our great fleets, it seems we must fend for ourselves. I loled | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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JudgeMathis
Cuba1286 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
On April 11 2008 08:34 d1v wrote: How do they get "countered"? You know, I could do some fucking all-in stuff all the time, but I'd really like to play some games that last longer than 10 mins... I really don't agree with you there. I never complained about not having any cheese BO's, because in fact, I do have some. That's not the point of the argument. I'm barely stating, that given you're opting for a really interesting, challenging and to a certain degree "fair" game, Terran's options for opening are severly cut down. So does Zerg then. Actually it's even more risky. Why ? Simply just think about what a T with only 1 base can do while wallin and get ready to shots those pesky overs that try to spot your cheese strat. While with zerg it gets easily countered by scv running around and more importantly : 2 scans. Hell even with one base he could get 2 scans before moving out to see what you're up to. This is just so easy to spot. Burrow glings ? Blah works only vs beginners. Lurks rush ? Easy to scout it. Mutas with 1 base ? Again easy to scout it. The only viable zerg's opening is Pool 5 oO There are not any others viables openings besides 3 hatches lurks or 3 hatches mutas. It's just ridiculous to say that Zergs have more openings than terran, unless you don't care about losing. | ||
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Steelflight-Rx
United States1389 Posts
On April 11 2008 07:39 Zanno wrote: Greetings, Executor. Though we all grieve for the loss of mighty EtherealDeath, we must find the resolve to carry on. He sacrificed himself to destroy the Overmind, but many Zerg still rage across our ruined homeworld. Without the Conclave to lead us, or the protection of our great fleets, it seems we must fend for ourselves. En tara adun. May his sacrafice be remembered in the archives for eons to come. | ||
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