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Ideas for New BWL Plugin
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tec27
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tec27
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On April 02 2008 04:05 GoSuPlAyEr wrote: is there an obsmode that is compatible with 1.15.2 on iccup? if not make that!!! Don't think its possible to make obsmode compatible with iccup, unless they've changed their anti-hack methods (which I don't think they have) | ||
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tec27
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On April 02 2008 04:11 GoSuPlAyEr wrote: well i've always really missed replay with text is that possible for iccup? or the old school RWA feature from awhile back...I know these are all old but i really really miss them:-P RWT would have the same problems as obsmode. RWA is a possibility, but I need to both find my old collection of RWAs and also look into how replays are formatted edit: Speaking of RWAs, I just found the sound file I ripped out of Cygnus X-1's singing RWA (best RWA ever!!!): http://drop.io/cygnusRWA edit2: apparently I lost my whole collection of RWAs  | ||
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statix
United States1760 Posts
i havnt kept up with bw in a while so im just throwing something out there :D | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
I dont care if its an old idea that shit was awesome | ||
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On April 02 2008 04:22 fusionsdf wrote: fucking FPOBS I dont care if its an old idea that shit was awesome was this the in game obsmode thingy you're talking about? *edit* and if you could find anyway to bring back RWA's i would love you forever | ||
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tec27
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On April 02 2008 04:33 GoSuPlAyEr wrote: errr i could patch my thing back to whatever patch it made and make one when i got home. The rwa program is still downloadable on www.bwchart.com I'm fairly certain Yeah, thats true, I should have realized that. Its all good then, I can do that myself | ||
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Raithed
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tec27
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On April 02 2008 04:39 Raithed wrote: how do i get the advloader to work with iccup? i like the apm feature. Don't think you can | ||
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tec27
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On April 02 2008 04:47 Raithed wrote: can the bwl work? ive never used it or iccup wont allow it whatsoever? thanks! Well, you could use it without the anti-hack, but other than that, you can only use the plugins provided in ICCup's own launcher. | ||
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On April 02 2008 04:52 tec27 wrote: Well, you could use it without the anti-hack, but other than that, you can only use the plugins provided in ICCup's own launcher. if you're caught you'll probaly be banned for using a program that isnt supported on iccup, im not sure of this but i've heard of it happening before. | ||
Chosi
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LuMiX
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Harem
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
Basically its a Build Order manager software. You would have the option to analyze BOs, make blueprints for your own BOs, see graphs of Army Strenght with different Expo timings. You would be able to tell the program what amount of units you want at a specific time (after analyzing your enemie's BO) and it would tell you the optimal BO for that, perhaps with the option to make the late game possible, or to make it allin. If this sounds interesting, i'll be glad to try to remember more stuff about this. EDIT: ofc this is probly more complex than you wanted, coz it would probably mean you would need to make the entire software, user interface and all. | ||
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useLess
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
for bwl, I'd like all the old plugins from penguin. rwt, fprep, obsmode, apm live, etc. the only thing that penguin didn't have is, obsmode with fp - that would be immense, especially for learning how to play by watching the players move their mouse while playing. other than that... hmm. 1. add the option to turn off F1 - it's VERY annoying. 2. rep slot maker? xD (old stuff) 3. a plugin that shows you apm and stuff while browsing your rep folder in sc. (I think someone was working on this already) 4. something that tests for lat and lag. if it's possible, make it show players who lag in the lobby. 5. make an alert sound. while alt-tabbing, when someone whispers you with ALERT!, the plugin plays a sound, so you know you're needed. 6. anti flood for channels. 7. add a paste option for game lobbies/ingame. so I can spam 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a twice as fast as my opponent does. xD or make an option so we can assign some key combination to write some predetermined text. will think of more... | ||
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tec27
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On April 02 2008 09:35 quirinus wrote: nite, there already is a program for that, but don't remember it's name. for bwl, I'd like all the old plugins from penguin. rwt, fprep, obsmode, apm live, etc. the only thing that penguin didn't have is, obsmode with fp - that would be immense, especially for learning how to play by watching the players move their mouse while playing. other than that... hmm. 1. add the option to turn off F1 - it's VERY annoying. 2. rep slot maker? xD (old stuff) 3. a plugin that shows you apm and stuff while browsing your rep folder in sc. (I think someone was working on this already) 4. something that tests for lat and lag. if it's possible, make it show players who lag in the lobby. 5. make an alert sound. while alt-tabbing, when someone whispers you with ALERT!, the plugin plays a sound, so you know you're needed. 6. anti flood for channels. 7. add a paste option for game lobbies/ingame. so I can spam 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a twice as fast as my opponent does. xD or make an option so we can assign some key combination to write some predetermined text. will think of more... 1. - Would be fairly easy, you could actually ask MasterOfChaos to add F1 blocking to ChaosPlugin and get it with ICCup support. 2. I believe there's already a BWL plugin that does that, look for it 3. I think the AdvLoader people made something like that but that was a few patches ago. Would be an interesting project. 4. Dunno if lobby testing would be possible, and I imagine the most you could really do to test for lag is ping the individual players and display that info within SC. 5. See 7. 6. See 7 7. I imagine the best way to handle all 3 of these would be to make a plugin thats scriptable, so you can basically make a bot-type interface within SC, along with it having access to some other functionality like playing sounds. Would be an interesting project to say the least. Anyway, for the moment, I'm going to be working on RWA functionality. You're going to have to bear with me on that though, as my knowledge of replay formatting is abysmal and JCA's replay library sources are like not documented at all  I'll figure it out though. At the moment, my basic plan is to have two plugins, one for recording, and one for playback. I'm going to try to keep them from injecting data in SC at all (only reading memory) so that they'll be compatible with ICCup (after all, one of my favorite features of JCA's RWA recorder was its ability to record your audio *while* you played).After I get done with RWA's, I might attempt FPreps. The only reason I'm not picking that up right now is because its a really huge undertaking. Once FPrep is done, FPobs is only a few steps away, and I think that'd be pretty cool as well. Oh, and I'll also be making all this stuff open-source, so it should be easier for future developers to work all this out | ||
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quirinus
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23 yeah 4 yeah that's somewhat what I meant. 567yeah, those last 3 need bot like knowledge. if I remember, the fp stuff was made by messing around with team melee optiones, right? a real ingame APM live would be a lot easier to do I think, and it would help a lot of people. all those apm counters that we have nowadays just count your global keyboard/mouse press, not the actual in-game actiones, so the resulting apm is often too big and off, and you have to reset it, it counts the ingame msging as actiones and other funny stuff. good luck with rwa! that stuff was nice back then. | ||
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tec27
United States3710 Posts
On April 02 2008 18:58 quirinus wrote: 1 well I don't know why he didn't put it already there, since it's 10 times more useful than block capslock. I'll try to ask him or icc. 23 yeah 4 yeah that's somewhat what I meant. 567yeah, those last 3 need bot like knowledge. if I remember, the fp stuff was made by messing around with team melee optiones, right? a real ingame APM live would be a lot easier to do I think, and it would help a lot of people. all those apm counters that we have nowadays just count your global keyboard/mouse press, not the actual in-game actiones, so the resulting apm is often too big and off, and you have to reset it, it counts the ingame msging as actiones and other funny stuff. good luck with rwa! that stuff was nice back then. APMAlert (my other plugin) counts only ingame actions It could use an upgrade on its algorithm for APM calculation though, as it starts to become too "static" as the game gets longer. | ||
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quirinus
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oh it counts only ingame actiones? I've heared that it counts all that other stuff as well... might be some other apm plugin then, or I was misinformed. didn't use it though. don't need apm live if it's apm is off. nvm. xDthanks a lot for the effort though! I know many people really apriciate what you did/do, myself included! :D @ "static" apm: like, only including apm from the last 5 minutes or so? or giving old apm less weight as the time goes on? so that it actually shows more of the "current" apm rather than all game average? | ||
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tec27
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On April 03 2008 10:50 quirinus wrote: ah that was yours? oh it counts only ingame actiones? I've heared that it counts all that other stuff as well... might be some other apm plugin then, or I was misinformed. didn't use it though. don't need apm live if it's apm is off. nvm. xDthanks a lot for the effort though! I know many people really apriciate what you did/do, myself included! :D @ "static" apm: like, only including apm from the last 5 minutes or so? or giving old apm less weight as the time goes on? so that it actually shows more of the "current" apm rather than all game average? Well, it used to count other actions as well, but ever since I added APMLive functionality, its only counted correct stuff. As for the APM being too static, all it does atm is total the amount of actions so far and divide them by the total game time. I think what would be a better way is to use a window of the last 2 or so minutes to calculate it, that way it fluctuates (and would be more indicative of the value of the line in BWChart at that point). | ||
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[X]Ken_D
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tec27
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On April 04 2008 06:30 [X]Ken_D wrote: modify chaosplugin replay to not save replay after 2 minutes. I was told that it just took replay from lastreplay.rep. Ask MasterOfChaos to do that, its his plugin (He's probably already working on that, btw | ||
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SonuvBob
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I think Team Melee reps my be fixable, if you want to try that. Or you could make a rigged-map detector for replays. I can provide some info on either one. | ||
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tec27
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On April 04 2008 08:00 SonuvBob wrote: Does it have to be a plugin? Or just a SC-related project? I think Team Melee reps my be fixable, if you want to try that. Or you could make a rigged-map detector for replays. I can provide some info on either one. Yeah, I mean, I'm willing to do pretty much anything in that regard. I just have very little knowledge of replays and maps in general (although thats not ruling out the possibility of figuring it out). I'm working on RWA stuff right now, but I definitely wouldn't mind future ideas and projects | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
hm maybe add an option so the players can choose to see: all game apm average recent apm (last 2 min) current apm (last 5 sec) or a fourth option that makes the apm oscilate about the all game average, but is very affected by the current apm. (this one might be the best, that's probably what you had in mind?) blizz should fix team melee reps, shouldn't be hard. how are RWA reps going? | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
Could you make a plug-in so that it's possible to ping the map during a replay? | ||
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