• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:47
CET 03:47
KST 11:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced11[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Which season is the best in ASL? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1584 users

Need tips in several games

Blogs > Ack1027
Post a Reply
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-28 17:02:57
March 28 2008 17:01 GMT
#1
If you read my other post, a long time ago you can see that I attended a lan hosted by a nearby college[GATech] and I was the overall winner of the lan and got to choose a monitor as my grand prize. [ It was really fucking nice btw ]

If you want to read about the experience:
+ Show Spoiler +
It was good as in fun. It wasn't that competitive I'd say about 6/10 overall.
My friends decided to win as many events as we could. At first they had console games too and we would've wiped the board clean but had some trouble. I guess I can post the whole thing here as I'm done with classes today, thanks for the interest inc!

They had wc3, sc, cs 1.6, cs:source, quake, dota, some other strange fps game I couldn't figure out.

I played in sc, cs:source, cs1.6, dota. I could've played in wc3 but the times for the events overlapped.

Our team placed 1st in source, 2nd in 1.6, and 3rd in dota. I placed 2nd in broodwar.
The funny thing is I had zero expectations to place at broodwar. I literally hadn't touched broodwar for over a year [ although still coming to TLnet of course ] I played maybe 5-7 ICCUP games to practice 2 days before the lan. I basically ripped through everyone up until the playoffs through pure build order execution. Once I got to the semi-finals I was a bit worried but I still didn't know at this point I was at semis. It was just another game to me.

I rolled this guy again with pure build order about 6 minutes in. Every single one of my bw games was under 15 minutes but every single one was extended by at least 2-3 minutes because the faggot kids there who had no idea how to play would just float Terran buildings to odd corners of the map. Also rules were you decided the map between yourselves, and I kinda knew there would be newbs so I always let them choose the map.

The finals was bo3 and when my friends and I first got to the lan there were like 5 korean kids in a corner watching MSL live finals through stream and I thought to myself ' probably some good kids here ' I'm korean too, so I just pointed a thumbs up to them with a nod recognizing the fact they were watching a live stream of finals. This is why I didn't expect to go far in the bw tourney.

Since it was bo3 and he watched my last semi-final game from behind me I decided to switch up races from Protoss to Zerg. Turns out he plays protoss. We actually decided on Luna, and not some gay map like challenger or obscure 5man island map like my matches before (--v)

I was pretty confident in my lurker/ling +1carapace contain so I did that.... of course I don't follow progaming anymore after Boxer ' quit ' so I had no idea about Bisu style play with FE and sair/dt.
The only time I experienced this before was reps of Nal_rA on LT going fast nex. I actually took down his gateway with lurker sniping so I thought I was ahead and double expanded. Of course that was a huge mistake since I didn't think that all he needed the gateway for was the tech tree to corsair. He came with 3 sairs and raped all my ovies and I had to switch to hydras and game ended pretty fast after.

The second game I kinda just gave up and played a shitty PvP that ended in goon/reaver wars. I was really tired at this point since it was the 2nd to last event and probably 3:00AM and I still had dota to play.

He got a ktec mouse and I got razor krait which I was EXTREMELY happy with. Ktec would've been nice I have great mice already.

For winning source, all 5 of us got razer diamondbacks, for 2nd in 1.6 we got cd holding binders.

Dota was such a debacle, since my teammates and I were SO confident we could win. We rolled all the teams and got to the semi-finals. It was a NINETY minute game. Well into 5am in the morning and the lan started at 8PM the day before. We placed third because we ended up on their side of the bracket. In comparison, the finals game lasted 30 minutes. We definitely would've placed 2nd if we were on the other side of the bracket. We probably could've taken first as well but our actual dota roster wasn't our most competitive. Our team at the lan was 1-2 casual players and only 3 competitive players who didn't play that well that day.

At the end of the dota game as I was putting up my keyboard the guy who ran the event came to me and said I was the overall winner for placing highest in the most events. Thus the prizes... That was a long time ago and I thought he forgot about it but finally I got an email.

There's another lan coming this ' winter ' and I'm excited to go to this one too. As gay as it might sound that I win prizes cuz I actually play the games semi-competitively and most people there are newbs, it's still nice and fun to play with friends. Especially team games like cs and dota.

I promised the korean kid in the bw finals I would practice next time because I thought to myself if I played this guy in my ' prime ' it would've been a lot closer. It was a breath of fresh air because he spoke little English but was very humble about winning and shook my hand everything. All my other bw opponents were bm non-mannered faggots.


Anyway, in order to win again this time[ which I definitely want to because I gave the monitor to my cousin as a birthday gift ] I need to prepare differently.

This time, we don't have a soild 4 for cs1.6, cs:source, dota. We used a ringer in those games and still did really well, but this time we only have 3 core friends including myself.

Here are the games they had last time:
cs1.6
cs:source
unreal 2004
starcraft 2v2 and 1v1
warcraft 1v1
dota

But here's the kicker, they have console games this time. In order to win the overall prize you have to place highest in the most events. Last time I placed 1st in source, 2nd in 1.6, 3rd in dota, and second in starcraft.

Here's where I need your help. Because console games, which will likely be brawl and some other fps consoles that I blow at, I need help in specific games.

Starcraft: I'm definitely not a newb here, but I quit playing seriously waaaaay back. I understand most terms but I'm not up to date on modern things, I'd say slightly before the savior era. Maps should not be that much of an issue, last time players got to decide maps and the only serious one we really played was Luna.

I played toss and I still have around 250apm but I'm no means a pro. What are some strats I should run to succeed? I got 2nd by pure build order execution alone. I am also able to play zerg, which I did in the finals bo3 but lost because I have no idea what to do after the initial lurker/ling contain.

Also 2v2 general tips would help. What races are imbalanced [was it ZZ?]

Warcraft 3: I'm planning to play this, if time permits because last time it overlapped with cs:source. I'm not a complete newb, but if you can help me you should start from the very beginning. I play undead and night elf, I completely don't understand the other races. I've gotten around 50 ladder wins for icons to play dota tda and I play mainly undead with the usual cryptfiends and destroyers.

If you guys could help me with some strats and build orders specifically, maybe some unit combos that would help me ALOT.

I think with at least a 2nd placing in starcraft and warcraft I should be set because its almost guaranteed we will place 1st in source and at least top 3 in cs1.6

I guess I could place in brawl as well since it's a new game and I was not terrible at melee.

Thanks for reading and any help you can provide.


Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1936 Posts
March 28 2008 17:09 GMT
#2
err for protoss just dt drop everygame, its pretty much insta-win
the REAL ReSpOnSe
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
March 28 2008 18:26 GMT
#3
georgia tech is awesome

i wish we had stuff like that =(
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
March 28 2008 18:58 GMT
#4
if you PM me i'll try to help with wc3 sometime -- used to play a hell of alot of ladder.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 276
Nathanias 93
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 85
Noble 20
Dota 2
XaKoH 386
monkeys_forever336
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi85
Other Games
summit1g14798
Mew2King102
ToD62
ViBE61
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1994
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream188
Other Games
BasetradeTV171
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 72
• davetesta33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 27
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22166
League of Legends
• Doublelift4482
• Rush830
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
7h 13m
WardiTV Korean Royale
9h 13m
Zoun vs SHIN
TBD vs Reynor
TBD vs herO
Solar vs TBD
BSL 21
17h 13m
Hawk vs Kyrie
spx vs Cross
Replay Cast
21h 13m
Wardi Open
1d 9h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 14h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Wardi Open
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.