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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 04 2008 03:57 GMT
#21
It was stupidity what they did, even though I feel absolutely horrible that this happened. The black guy should be charged for assault. However, he's not. What could be done is you sue his ass for wrongful death.
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Niji-z
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States208 Posts
March 04 2008 05:39 GMT
#22
Aw, that's really awful, Russ. Sorry that this hit so close to home for you and especially your sister.
Rawr.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
March 04 2008 08:55 GMT
#23
On March 04 2008 12:57 Caller wrote:
It was stupidity what they did, even though I feel absolutely horrible that this happened. The black guy should be charged for assault. However, he's not. What could be done is you sue his ass for wrongful death.


Wrongful death? I don't see how... the ONLY thing the black guy could get charged with is assault, and considering the fact that one of the two guys is holding a weapon, and the fact that the other guy approached him, it can be VERY easily ruled self-defense.

It's a shame the way everything turned out, but the black guy, as the way you tell the story, is absolutely not responsible in any way, shape, or form for what happened. It was just a terrible accident that could've been easily avoided if the actions of nearly everyone in the story had just been a little different (the friend, the victim, the black guy, and the driver all made 'bad judgement' calls, but in the end it was still an accident).
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FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
March 04 2008 09:46 GMT
#24
On March 04 2008 12:48 Obama wrote:
look, the law works this way, if some 1talks shit at u, u can talk shit back, if some 1 hits u with a fist, u can hit back with a fist.


Uh, no, the law doesn't work this way.
I will eat you alive
Obama
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada53 Posts
March 04 2008 15:50 GMT
#25
On March 04 2008 18:46 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2008 12:48 Obama wrote:
look, the law works this way, if some 1talks shit at u, u can talk shit back, if some 1 hits u with a fist, u can hit back with a fist.


Uh, no, the law doesn't work this way.


im just generalizing, u cant use unnecessary force to retaliate for something very minor....
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-04 16:10:00
March 04 2008 16:08 GMT
#26
On March 04 2008 12:48 Obama wrote:
look, the law works this way, if some 1talks shit at u, u can talk shit back, if some 1 hits u with a fist, u can hit back with a fist. the thing u CANT do is when some1 talks shit at u and u hit him in the head with a baseball bat. the point is the equivalence of return. verbal confrontation is not considered as assault nor criminal activity unless it escalates in racial hate crimes associated with racial slurs, ppl would get cited with public disturbance and need to go to court for that shit.

the black guy is not responsible for davids death, he did not directly or indirectly cause his death, at most he would get charged with assault causing bodily harm if david is still alive. think about it this way, if a gun store sells a gun to a black guy and the black guy goes out and kills some1 while robbing the person, so is the gun store indirectly responsible for the victims death? absolutely not, everything is too circumstantial in this case, its just coincidence/bad luck at its best. it can only be called as an accident, law does not involve emotions, what u r trying to charge the black guy and the woman is based on emotion. im not saying they both r innocent. and if according to u, david and his friend both indirectly caused davids death, why? because if they didnt go out that night to kick some1s ass, none of this would have happened, who can u blame? only their stupidity. and they brought a baseball bat with them to begin with, if david didnt get killed some1 else would have probably got killed instead. either case would have been devastating. p.s i dont know how the woman can just drive for a 100m after running david over, u cant possibly explain that unless she admits she was drunk at the time of accident.

pyrogenetix have put everything that i wanted to say at its best. u dont have to prove anything to anybody, u only have 1 chance at life, u r not suppose to take it for granted and act irresponsibly. what do u think happen with gangster and thugs? if u just keep ur cool, and be calm let the fucking clowns talk shit and smile at them for their stupidity, everything would work in ur favour. those dumb asses have nothing to lose, they WANT u to fight them, they WANT u to talk shit back and thats what give them the excuse and ignition source to fight u. if u fall into that shit and fight back then any subsequent consequence can only be ur fault.


This is a horrible story, but this guy's right it's circumstancial. The black guy does not deserve to be charged with manslaughter/murder, he did not realize him sucker punching the guy would lead to his death. Also, at first you made it sound like the black guy just ran up and punched him for no reason, but now it appears that he was inticed, so that make the case against him even worse.

The same is the case for the woman driver. First of all, it wasn't her fault two people were out fighting in the street to begin with. She swerved to AVOID hitting them and then accidently ran the other kid over. What else could she have done, not swerved to avoid the fighting kids and hit them instead? I actually feel sorry for her, it must be traumatizing to run someone over and cause their death.

I'm really sorry for your loss, but the fact is this was just a bad situation that your friends got themselves into which led to one of your friend's death, no one is directly responsible.
a.k.a reLapSe ---
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
November 12 2009 08:49 GMT
#27
I'm bumping this really old blog with an update. I found out a couple weeks ago about "The black guy" who was involved in this story, he got into a car accident last February.

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090217/edm_chase_090217/20090217/?hub=EdmontonHome

He was running away from the cops in a stolen car, and he crashed it killing one of the people with him. This new article doesn't say the extent of his injuries but he's crippled from the neck down now. He was also the driver. I know this because a friend who knows him, seen him about a month ago in the hospital (He's still there).

Kinda messed up.. That's karma I guess? It's a shame another person had to die in the process though, because of Jason Francis.
Not bad for a cat toy.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 12 2009 09:31 GMT
#28
*avoiding crazy black people for the rest of my life*
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
November 12 2009 09:42 GMT
#29
Honestly, if I saw two guys heading to a bar with a baseball bat I would yell something too. Ok maybe not yell something, maybe I would have called the cops, I guess it was the guy's way of trying to keep order in the neighborhood? :S.


But really, that's just a story that's wrong on many many levels, I feel bad for everyone involved, it's a shame that someone got killed or hurt. =/
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
November 12 2009 13:11 GMT
#30
On November 12 2009 17:49 Krohm wrote:
I'm bumping this really old blog with an update. I found out a couple weeks ago about "The black guy" who was involved in this story, he got into a car accident last February.

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090217/edm_chase_090217/20090217/?hub=EdmontonHome

He was running away from the cops in a stolen car, and he crashed it killing one of the people with him. This new article doesn't say the extent of his injuries but he's crippled from the neck down now. He was also the driver. I know this because a friend who knows him, seen him about a month ago in the hospital (He's still there).

Kinda messed up.. That's karma I guess? It's a shame another person had to die in the process though, because of Jason Francis.

Karma's really a bitch aint it... just that other innocent people get dragged into it also =(
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 13:43:05
November 12 2009 13:40 GMT
#31
As tragic as this is (it's really, really fucking tragic), I can't help but get a nice sense of satisfaction about hearing he's paralyzed from the neck down. I hate irresponsible, reckless, asshole, criminal drivers more than anything in this world. While I don't feel he was completely responsible for the death in the OP it's obvious from this update that he is definitely a piece of shit who needs a nice, crippling reminder of the two lives he has taken.

Chains none
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
November 12 2009 15:23 GMT
#32
I agree with not charging the women. At the very least she should have to go through a driver improvement program - but there's no justification in ruining her life over accidentally running over and killing somebody involved in a street fight.

It just goes to show how bad police work ultimately ended up in more innocent people hurt. I hope your sister is doing ok, seeing something like that can fuck you up for life.

I feel no remorse for the black guy being paralyzed.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 12 2009 20:07 GMT
#33
jesus. this is fucked up
cw)minsean(ru
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
November 13 2009 08:42 GMT
#34
Wow insane bump. Always a pity when people die because of the actions of those who don't even care for their own lives ;/.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 13 2009 11:23 GMT
#35
this 'karma' and sick sense of justice people have is fucking disgusting.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
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