• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:44
CET 15:44
KST 23:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win02026 KungFu Cup Announcement5BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains16Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar [GSL CK] #1: Team Maru vs. Team herO RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2198 users

Is it the same?

Blogs > il0seonpurpose
Post a Reply
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
October 23 2007 03:59 GMT
#1
So one day I was bored and I remember rekrul being an ex progamer so I wanted to find some pictures of him playing against some well known progamers on tv. I didnt find any but one thing lead to another and I read this article, by Rekrul, found Here
It's a good read, doesnt seem like the crazy rekrul we know but anyway, I read it and he was talking about the reality of progamers being poor, nothing else to do in life, no sleep. The thing that caught me though was when he said was how people not in Korea view progaming as some magical, truly exciting thing but in reality, it wasnt like that at all, and after matches at the mall, even if you were a progamer, nobody would really care about you being one and would rarely "blink twice" (quoted from the article) unless you were really good like Boxer, iloveoov, nada. Now, I'm thinking, its not that its a small thing in Korea, its big and all but not as we suspect. But then again, when we see BlizzCon, WCG, and those proleague finals, there are so many Koreans supportive, like 100,000 people to watch 7 games and alot more watching at home.
All of that was from 2005ish when Rekrul was in Korea.

[image loading]

Poll: Is it the same back then?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



*
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7005 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-23 15:46:16
October 23 2007 15:44 GMT
#2
According to sAviOr in the BBC interview video, he told that he sometimes gets surrounded by fans when he goes to the mall and he tries to hide his identifity.

But the situation is not the same with lower tier progamers, someone can recognize them but its not like they'll get surrounded or not even anything near.

While the progaming scene has gotten bigger and bigger over the years, its not that every single progamer is automatically a super-star, you need to be godly, atleast top 20 KeSPa I'd say.

The progaming housing has gotten better atleast, as nowadays every single team is sponsored by a big company, which was not the situation back then.

It'd be nice to get Rekrul's own opinion on this as he probably is the one with most knowledge about progaming in the whole forums.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 24 2007 04:16 GMT
#3
I think it's a little bit different (more money pumped into progaming, more players getting SOME money) but it's pretty much the same. And yeah the finals are huge and have lots of players but if you go to any regular proleague or starleague match the feeling and atmosphere in that room where they hold it (bout the size of a high school gymnasium) it feels much crappier than how it looks on TV.

When I used to talk to people (girls) about starcraft a lot of them used to know / play it / know progamers. Nowadays the % of people is much less in my opinion, but the fanbase is still existant just not flourishing. I mean hey, I was in a high-class korean style place a couple weeks ago and once we mentioned SC the 4 ladies in the room were talking about starcraft and progamers for like 30 mins LOL (they were all like 26-28 years old though, youngins aint got a clue these days).

Another thing that pisses me off is all these old school gamers that were around from long before even I came to korea....alot of them don't even try so hard anymore. Back in the old days they made money by winning tournaments and getting tournament winnings or OSL appearance fees. Now they all got sponsors so they get money no matter what and a lot of them just stopped giving a fuck and slack off and/or become degenerate gamblers. This is why there are so many gosu up and coming young kids nowadays. They aren't old enough to be corrupted by money yet so they just have the pure desire and drive to win and they are facing washed up non-caring old school gamers.
why so 진지해?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 24 2007 04:26 GMT
#4
Seriously, a progamer I know I told him to come to our house to drink / play a home poker game and he's like no sorry I have a match tomorrow gotta practice. Then I check his ID on pokerstars and he was up till 6 AM that day playing online poker all night (only reason he stopped is cuz he lost his bankroll). And no it's not yellow.

Pathetic.

(Btw he got fucking raped in his match)
why so 진지해?
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
October 24 2007 05:22 GMT
#5
On October 24 2007 13:26 Rekrul wrote:
Seriously, a progamer I know I told him to come to our house to drink / play a home poker game and he's like no sorry I have a match tomorrow gotta practice. Then I check his ID on pokerstars and he was up till 6 AM that day playing online poker all night (only reason he stopped is cuz he lost his bankroll). And no it's not yellow.

Pathetic.

(Btw he got fucking raped in his match)


Owned, how'd you find his ID though?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
October 24 2007 08:39 GMT
#6
Its different.
Its a bit bigger.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#78
WardiTV1152
Rex118
IntoTheiNu 14
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 118
RushiSC 44
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 8748
Sea 2704
Soma 1039
Mini 652
ZerO 523
Light 514
EffOrt 503
Stork 431
Snow 398
ggaemo 263
[ Show more ]
Rush 255
hero 202
Killer 161
sorry 94
Mind 82
PianO 69
Aegong 61
Sea.KH 57
Barracks 45
NotJumperer 42
Shinee 40
sSak 38
[sc1f]eonzerg 35
Terrorterran 20
GoRush 18
IntoTheRainbow 18
scan(afreeca) 15
soO 11
SilentControl 10
Noble 9
ivOry 6
Britney 1
Dota 2
qojqva3154
League of Legends
JimRising 286
Counter-Strike
fl0m624
markeloff168
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King115
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes306
Other Games
singsing2687
B2W.Neo1073
hiko737
Lowko396
Hui .221
Pyrionflax209
Fuzer 202
XaKoH 134
QueenE84
ArmadaUGS40
ZerO(Twitch)16
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream633
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift2514
• Jankos1611
• TFBlade405
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
2h 16m
WardiTV Team League
21h 16m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 9h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maru vs Zoun
Cure vs ByuN
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-15
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.