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APM Training pt. 2

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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
July 11 2007 04:43 GMT
#1
In the Broodwar forums there was a thread posted recently called Training Exercise for Starcraft. As I whined last blog: my hands are gimpy-slow. So, I thought attempting this exercise couldn't hurt, and might just help. If you believe this exercise could hurt me, give reasons in the comments. To recap: All my games are ZvP on Luna and I'm doing 5 games vs the comp per day and blogging my progress here.

Progress report:

Game06 I played 4 hatch hydralurk, but I didn't attack the comp until I had 5 bases up and running and was at 200/200 supply. All I built after my expos were up and running were overlords and hydralisks. With 10 hatcheries, 5 mineral lines and 4 gas and only spending resources on hydralurk, I had difficulty keeping up with my macro goals and it became impossible as my army hit 200. I attacked the comp hoping it'd manage to kill off enough of my army so I could spend my resources, but the comp mostly crumpled under the strain of my units.

In games 07 and 09 I did a 3 hatch lurkerling build, expo'd twice and switched to ultraling. As with the games I used this build on yesterday, all my excess resources were minerals and I couldn't seem to build enough hatcheries in time to keep up with it in ling production.

In games 08 and 10 I decided to try playing just for speed/macro and ignored any particular build order... just spending my resources asap and building tech and extra hatcheries as I could afford it. They both turned out to be 12 pool 12 hatch (in main) openings, with a quick third hatch at my natural, then lair and further expos and hatcheries as my economy began kicking in. Game08 my midgame was lurk ling, and in Game10 my midgame was mutaling.

My momentary APM max over the course of these 5 games, according to BWchart was 510-- I think you can guess which game that was from-- so combined with my progress over yesterday I'm starting to come around to the idea that the goals set forth in this exercise are actually attainable for me. Whether this will translate into real-game speed remains to be seen. Before I come to any conclusions on that, though, I think I should meet the goals in this exercise.

Goals = 300 apm, less than 600 resources.

Comp Spam Practice
Game06: 172 APM; 4901 unspent resources; 18:16 time.
Game07: 178 APM; 2513 unspent resources; 17:10 time.
Game08: 202 APM; 681 unspent resources; 16:31 time.
Game09: 149 APM; 2303 unspent resources; 16:39 time.
Game10: 232 APM; 532 unspent resources; 14:09 time.

Game06-10 Averages
187 APM; 2186 unspent resources; 16:33 time.



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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
July 11 2007 05:18 GMT
#2
wow, nice to see that you're getting much better ^_^

Game06 unspent resources :O
^-^
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
July 11 2007 05:37 GMT
#3
Just out of curiousity, what's your micro apm and macro apm and how many invalid actions do you usually have?
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
July 11 2007 05:45 GMT
#4
On July 11 2007 14:37 boghat wrote:
Just out of curiousity, what's your micro apm and macro apm and how many invalid actions do you usually have?


I'm Zerg so nulls are minimal (once larva are used up, we can't spam commands to make units we don't have money for). I don't keep these replays, but my Lastreplay.rep is Game10 from this exercise. Here's the BWChart readout for it:

Time: 14:03
Actions: 3516
APM: 232
Null: 22
VAPM: 230
Supply: 174
Units: 159
APM +/-: 76
APM max: 510
APM min: 112
Micro: 96
Macro: 135

And yeah, hotkey usage is a ridiculous 64% of my actions, if that's what you're hinting at. ^^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
July 11 2007 05:49 GMT
#5
Just out of curiosity can't you just spam S at your Hatchery for some free commands?
^-^
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
July 11 2007 05:51 GMT
#6
On July 11 2007 14:49 Equinox_kr wrote:
Just out of curiosity can't you just spam S at your Hatchery for some free commands?


lol. I don't know. Maybe. I haven't tried it. Can you?
Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-11 06:09:03
July 11 2007 06:08 GMT
#7
On July 11 2007 14:49 Equinox_kr wrote:
Just out of curiosity can't you just spam S at your Hatchery for some free commands?


Care to try it out?
By.Flash fighting
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-11 06:16:10
July 11 2007 06:15 GMT
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