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Old Man Ramblings: Broodmother

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ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
November 06 2018 18:47 GMT
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Follow the journey of a thirty year old man as he slowly climbs solo mmr. He wanders onward not because he can, but because he must. Here he will complain about the youth of today and their misguided direction, strategy, and itemization. Here he will solve all misunderstandings about dotes.

old man meta

Allrighty so I just got divine 3 now, been spamming 5 pos still with the occasional offlane thrown

How can you climb as a senior citizen with your hands aching and your hair graying and trips to the doctor being more and more about digestion related issues?

How to think about Broodmother

Brood is an xp differential hero -- like snowball heroes like meepo or SF, brood wants to have a huge xp advantage to win. Everything else is secondary. Pushing / laning isn't really what makes this hero so OP, its the massive power spikes at lv 18, 20, and 25.

Broodmother is useless without bkb. Ok, not in the laning phase, where shes obviously pretty dominant. But mid game, brood is very susceptible to being kited. She only can survive if she is attacking. So any build should get a bkb very early. You can exploit this to kill her if the player isn't very smart and tries to greed out an extra item.

broodmother isn't so sensitive to lane counters (can easily dodge the lane and jungle ancients, but rather midgame counters. big disables / bkb piercing disables especially. and early support items really hurt, glimmer and force is enough to sustain the duration of brood ult.

how to pick vs brood

alright to be fair you generally won't be able to do this unless they 9th pick it. here's my opinion on popular picks and why they are good or shit

meepo - probably the best lane counter / midgame counter all around if ur a good meepo player. brood can't apply bite to all of em, and net is a nightmare. meepo lanes really well vs brood and keeps up with xp. the e blade build is especially difficult to handle. tldr; meepo probably best brood counter possible

ta - also really good vs brood, good ta players are very hard to lane against, and you can't punish ta's bad lv 1 like you can with other mids. ta also can trap ur ancients and easily set up kills mid game. once brood gets online, though, ta is pretty fucked

earthshaker - not bad to have but you shouldnt fuck your lanes giving him priority. he doesn't lane particularly well vs a brood who knows how to play, and this hero is really only about the shadowblade/echo pickoffs midgame, which he can do as a support or offlane anyway. also this thing tends to happen where earthshaker blink echos, then you survive and turn on ur ult, and then hes dead and ur at full hp and their biggest ult is down.

legion - pretty good because of duel, but again, a good brood won't give up spiders in lane and people over estimate Q. you have to get your supports to ward out the brood jungle so you can get some big Q's. legion's xp talent is also great for keeping up with brood. when ur behind on legion, the typical blink blademail is deceptively weak since brood's ult negates blademail quite a bit. tldr: pretty good when ahead very hard when behind

beastm - not very meta right now but roar is really good, axes too. can pressure the map and take towers which is very hard to play vs

axe - pretty good in lane but not great, and pretty good midgame. one of the better heroes, but the biggest issue is the xp difference. brood will outfarm and outxp you, and when she gets 18/25, you can't handle her ult and she will just eat you and your hero becomes pretty bad. so you have to really go hard with blink blademail shadowblade and set up repeated kills early.

dusa - yeah some people think sitting a dusa mid will counter brood. it doesn't, don't do it. when brood gets to diffusal ur gunna have a bad time.

necro - pretty good because of the sustain in lane, you can basically sit behind the tower and all that. falls off mid game, but necro ult is always game breakingly good, so a pretty good pick.

aa - yea nobody plays this hero but it dumpsters brood ult

pugna - really good mid game, awful in lane. if you do an offlane pugna and take over the game its hard to play around because decrep ruins everything

ember - meh. doesn't do as much as people think since u dont fight with spiders past early game and ember needs some farm to clear spiders.brood can pretty easily make a fast hex which kinda ruins that hero too

how to itemize vs brood

don't really worry about spiders idk why so many people alter their builds ot get battlefury and shit. spiders don't matter past the early / laning phase.

important items -- things that slow down brood's auto attacks. so, force, glimmer, euls -- those are the ones your supports need. buy time. on cores, mkb is obviously good, but bkb is generally better. sheep is great.

and yea i made a whole post about it, but vessel. spirit vessel after broods bkb has worn off is really devastating and forces another dispel like manta or something which you dont want on brood



anyhoo, those are some of my brood thoughts! let me know in the comments if i missed something or u wanna fight me, make sure to mash that like and subscribe button
Day_Walker
Profile Joined December 2013
104 Posts
November 07 2018 09:28 GMT
#2
What do you think about the timber and bristle matchups?
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
November 07 2018 13:53 GMT
#3
Both are similar to axe.

Bristles pretty good in lane, but his big problem is keeping up in XPM, and usually you want your bristle somewhere to slow down a core. It’s easy enough to avoid him and just get a level advantage. A lot of people go bristle and do straight vanguard which is fine I guess but there’s better options. You gotta get silver so that slows down your third item.

Timber idk I haven’t seen timber in years, but I’d imagine he’s similar to axe / bristle. He’s got an XPM talent too though which is nice. You’d generally need silver or hex I imagine

Alch is pretty good too, hits similar power spikes.
Day_Walker
Profile Joined December 2013
104 Posts
November 07 2018 22:56 GMT
#4
Makes sense, thanks.
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