On October 06 2018 05:29 greenelve wrote: Am i supposed to that all of that text like the other humans? :o
Well, i liked the progress on the jouneys of Kylo Ren and Rey in the Last Jedi. That felt like evolvement of human people, where stuff happens and not that the plot demands a threat and how to stop it by heroes. ...which was still there and overall it was not the best part of story in this movie. Empire Strikes Back was good because things evolved and happend. Driven by the people, not something threat needs to be stopped and after that the movie itself is over. Star Wars in best is space opera. As in soap opera, never ending story, but in space.
Also...i begin to be annoyed by the need of a Star Wars Trilogy. I understand, there was an orginal trilogy and it became a cult classic, so there was a new trilogy - the prequel trilogy by now - and these days we get another trilogiy. And because things go well on buissenes side, there is another trilogy planned. But why not make it a continuing story with just more movies? Lets face it, in the end thats what these movies are. Just separated by something something because Star Wars movies needs to be made as trilogies.
I never felt like a prequel trilogy NEEDED to be made, or a sequel trilogy NEEDED to be made, but I thought it could be cool if there was a sequel trilogy. That being said, in TLJ, I liked the scenes with Rey, Luke, and Kylo the best. I don't know if they made much progress as characters in the movie, though. I still don't know what Rey's personality is supposed to be like.
On October 06 2018 05:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Disney has fucked up everything... the movies.. the toys and the video games. its a tri-fecta of incompetence!
I would argue that EA fucked up the games.
On October 06 2018 05:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Your statement about TFA in the op didn't read like you were all that big of a fan of it either. I am not saying anyone who disliked TLJ heavily cannot feel that way, pretending it is so much worse than the star wars movies which came before is absurd though. That is the reason i find this whole outcry of "fans" around the world amusing. You liking TFA better is not surprising either, it was so close to the OT in its narrative to make exactly that happen. TLJ was more bold, with all the faults it has ofc. I am not defending it as a great or even good movie, i wouldn't defend the OT as such either though.
Actually, most of my complaints about TFA are that it followed the OT too closely, especially in regards to Starkiller Base. I don't think that should've been in the movie at all. I actually looked at the time in the movie, and if I remember correctly, there is about 15-20 minutes between the time Starkiller Base is introduced until it's destroyed.
On October 06 2018 06:37 jrkirby wrote: How about this: the first order gets a genderbend ray gun, and hits the resistance with a surprise attack, turning all the men in the resistance into women, thinking it will make them weaker. But it actually makes them stronger, and they finally beat down the first order once and for all. They were searching for a cure to turn back normal, but after they win the battle they realize they actually like it better this way and don't want to change back.
Honestly, all the new star wars movies have felt like they were written by star wars fan boys, and that's something you might see in a random fan fiction, so you really can't rule it out.
But the Resistance already is made up of STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS and Poe Dameron. Who is probably gay and latino in the movie. I dunno, I just grabbed the RotJ script and wrote a "new story" on top of it. I guess I didn't really go into the "why" as much, but it has to do what JJ Abrams has done in the past with the Star Trek movies, and then with TFA. Rian Johnson copied a ton of shit from The Empire Strikes Back, but did it in a way that constantly was like "SIKE! IT'S NOT THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. SURPRISE, ASSHOLES."
This is how you create and develop a strong female character.
in this movie Pam Grier is the hottest 45 year old woman i've ever seen in my entire life... and i've been watching women a long time.. i know what i'm talking about.
On October 06 2018 05:29 greenelve wrote: Am i supposed to that all of that text like the other humans? :o
Well, i liked the progress on the jouneys of Kylo Ren and Rey in the Last Jedi. That felt like evolvement of human people, where stuff happens and not that the plot demands a threat and how to stop it by heroes. ...which was still there and overall it was not the best part of story in this movie. Empire Strikes Back was good because things evolved and happend. Driven by the people, not something threat needs to be stopped and after that the movie itself is over. Star Wars in best is space opera. As in soap opera, never ending story, but in space.
Also...i begin to be annoyed by the need of a Star Wars Trilogy. I understand, there was an orginal trilogy and it became a cult classic, so there was a new trilogy - the prequel trilogy by now - and these days we get another trilogiy. And because things go well on buissenes side, there is another trilogy planned. But why not make it a continuing story with just more movies? Lets face it, in the end thats what these movies are. Just separated by something something because Star Wars movies needs to be made as trilogies.
I never felt like a prequel trilogy NEEDED to be made, or a sequel trilogy NEEDED to be made, but I thought it could be cool if there was a sequel trilogy.
* Darth Vader Voice* Nooooooooooo
I dont mean the specific (story of the) prequel trilogy, or sequel trilogy. I mean that it needs to be three connected movies. Why not make just movies with a more or less continuing story? It feels a bit restricted to me, to have three movies only... Episode 9? Better close all arcs, because thats the last one of this trilogy. But with the new trilogy after that, we can open new arcs. And it doesnt really feels like that the current arc with Kylo Ren is close to an end.
With a new trilogy on the horizon, it makes it also feel more like a cash grab, than telling a story. The advantage of contuing movies would be, there is only a next one coming. And after that another next. So its only one movie on the horizon. Less to make more money, more to continuing the story. Sure in the end its the same with much more movies to make money, but it would feel different - and thats my point.
On October 06 2018 05:29 greenelve wrote: Am i supposed to that all of that text like the other humans? :o
Well, i liked the progress on the jouneys of Kylo Ren and Rey in the Last Jedi. That felt like evolvement of human people, where stuff happens and not that the plot demands a threat and how to stop it by heroes. ...which was still there and overall it was not the best part of story in this movie. Empire Strikes Back was good because things evolved and happend. Driven by the people, not something threat needs to be stopped and after that the movie itself is over. Star Wars in best is space opera. As in soap opera, never ending story, but in space.
Also...i begin to be annoyed by the need of a Star Wars Trilogy. I understand, there was an orginal trilogy and it became a cult classic, so there was a new trilogy - the prequel trilogy by now - and these days we get another trilogiy. And because things go well on buissenes side, there is another trilogy planned. But why not make it a continuing story with just more movies? Lets face it, in the end thats what these movies are. Just separated by something something because Star Wars movies needs to be made as trilogies.
I never felt like a prequel trilogy NEEDED to be made, or a sequel trilogy NEEDED to be made, but I thought it could be cool if there was a sequel trilogy.
* Darth Vader Voice* Nooooooooooo
I dont mean the specific (story of the) prequel trilogy, or sequel trilogy. I mean that it needs to be three connected movies. Why not make just movies with a more or less continuing story? It feels a bit restricted to me, to have three movies only... Episode 9? Better close all arcs, because thats the last one of this trilogy. But with the new trilogy after that, we can open new arcs. And it doesnt really feels like that the current arc with Kylo Ren is close to an end.
With a new trilogy on the horizon, it makes it also feel more like a cash grab, than telling a story. The advantage of contuing movies would be, there is only a next one coming. And after that another next. So its only one movie on the horizon. Less to make more money, more to continuing the story. Sure in the end its the same with much more movies to make money, but it would feel different - and thats my point.
Also hi Nina.
I'm not sure why they need to come in threes. I think it has two purposes: first, to tell an extended story that wouldn't work as a single movie, and second, because the new owners down want to stray too far from the original framework. That's why when I was writing this blog, I basically said "This is gonna be RotJ". That's sort of an annoyance I have, which is that these movies seem like a big cash-grab on the behalf of Disney. If you set up three consecutive movies that a massive audience is almost guaranteed to see, then it's more money. But each movie has to set up the next one to get people excited. TFA did that, but I don't think TLJ did.
The weird thing is that I keep getting roped into talking about TLJ, because people keep going "No no it's actually good". Also hi, greenelve. I'm not gonna say your real name on a public forum because I don't know if you'd want that.
Yeah, i think being a trilogy is part of Star Wars these days... has been for a long while. So Disney has to keep it a trilogy. But a single movie dont have to stand for itself. Empire Strikes Back works wonderfully as single movie and as part of a bigger story. If you talk about set up the next film, Disney with Marvel is exactly doing that with their MCU. So why not going a step further - like Empire Strikes Back - and just do movies that can be treated as single movie and part of a bigger story. TLJ for me has the problem, that i think its hard to end all the conflicts and storylines about the main persons in the next movie. But they have to, the trilogy arc will be over and a new one will come.
Im afraid that many people are turned off from Star Wars because of all this gender/plothole talk after TLJ and the quality of Han Solo and the frequency we have Star Wars Movies now. And im not entirely talking about quality itself, more the image these points have. I liked Han Solo movie, though there was no real development in Han's character and like Honest Trailers said "its not a movie about Han Solo origin, its the origin of all of his property" like the dices, his name, the ship, his gun and so on.
And greenelve is my real name and i actually liked TLJ overall. Besides many flaws and implications, which i dont like to have ever happend or mentionend.
i never cared much about the Star Wars universe... positively or negatively. The games felt uninspired. However, I'm now being asked why I'm following the haters of the new Star Wars trilogy so closely when I claim I don't care.
my reply is : "some men aren't looking for anything logical... some men just want to watch the Star Wars world burn"
Speaking of manbabies being threatened by women, I wonder why they didn't go with a female sith apprentice kinda similar to Darth Talon
Having a female villain in Star Wars would make sense as it's an easy way to introduce a powerful female character without having to deal with one of the main criticism against Rey which is that she's a shoe horned mary sue. No one questions the power of a Sith Lord or apprentice. Had the new trilogy been about her progressive passing to the light side it would have been gucci
On October 10 2018 02:06 algue wrote: Speaking of manbabies being threatened by women, I wonder why they didn't go with a female sith apprentice kinda similar to Darth Talon
Having a female villain in Star Wars would make sense as it's an easy way to introduce a powerful female character without having to deal with one of the main criticism against Rey which is that she's a shoe horned mary sue. No one questions the power of a Sith Lord or apprentice. Had the new trilogy been about her progressive passing to the light side it would have been gucci
They didn't do a lot of things that they said they were going to do. Kathleen Kennedy stated that she wanted to have a woman direct a Star Wars movie. That sure didn't happen. All the scripts were also drafted by men.
On October 10 2018 02:06 algue wrote: Speaking of manbabies being threatened by women, I wonder why they didn't go with a female sith apprentice kinda similar to Darth Talon
Having a female villain in Star Wars would make sense as it's an easy way to introduce a powerful female character without having to deal with one of the main criticism against Rey which is that she's a shoe horned mary sue. No one questions the power of a Sith Lord or apprentice. Had the new trilogy been about her progressive passing to the light side it would have been gucci
Probably because they wanted the main hero to be a woman and all bad guys are men.
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and i actually liked TLJ overall. Besides many flaws and implications, which i dont like to have ever happend or mentionend.![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Or08SuF.jpg)
