• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:29
CEST 10:29
KST 17:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Has online-only competition during the pandemic changed your enjoyment of pro SC2? How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Remastered crash fix suggestions New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Syncronization issues and can't find games a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D The Casual Games of the Week Thread Small VOD Thread 2.0 BWCL Season 65 Announcement
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8346 users

Survey on RTS design

Blogs > Incognoto
Post a Reply
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:32:52
May 09 2016 09:46 GMT
#1
Click

I started becoming really curious about other RTS games and I decided to write up a small survey. The idea is to reach out to as many RTS fans as possible and ask a few simple questions.

I'm especially interested in the answers in the open questions.

Just a small thing I put together for fun. Obviously results will be made public later on, when I figure out how to make that work.

Edit: Here are results (though answering is still possible) : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1U0We4aAUS7nM8TvXjNl7AGi9-UZsXUwjaByeG64D_5k/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm

maru lover forever
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
May 09 2016 13:30 GMT
#2
Not sure what the aim was, but I answered. It was pretty well-written, I rarely found I wanted an answer that wasn't on the list.
Moderator
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 09 2016 13:43 GMT
#3
Oh, thank you for the kind words, glad the answers made sense!

It's true there isn't really a goal with this survey, it's something I wrote some time ago. I guess I'm just very curious on how people regard the RTS genre, there are plenty of titles out there which people enjoy.
maru lover forever
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 09 2016 16:40 GMT
#4
I agree with Chill and I think you did about as good a job as you could, but I still felt like there was a lot of room for people to answer, in the words of Blizzard, what they think they like as opposed to what they actually like.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
May 09 2016 16:43 GMT
#5
A very well written survey! Based on all answers it looks like you have played sc2 and wc3 over 90% of your RTS playtime.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
May 09 2016 17:10 GMT
#6
Nice survey, I did have to think quite hard about RTS design features, perhaps it could be helpful to list some examples yourself since I wasn't sure what precisely qualifies as a RTS design feature.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 09 2016 18:31 GMT
#7
On May 10 2016 01:40 Jerubaal wrote:
I agree with Chill and I think you did about as good a job as you could, but I still felt like there was a lot of room for people to answer, in the words of Blizzard, what they think they like as opposed to what they actually like.


I agree, sometimes people just have more things to say. If I get around to making another survey, then I'll try to give people more room to give their thoughts in that regard.

@Dingodile, I've never played WC3, for me it's mostly Starcraft 2 and Age of Empires 3.

On May 10 2016 02:10 B-royal wrote:
Nice survey, I did have to think quite hard about RTS design features, perhaps it could be helpful to list some examples yourself since I wasn't sure what precisely qualifies as a RTS design feature.


You can edit your answer I think, not sure. Design features can be anything, from the stuff I've gotten so far, here are a few examples:
- high-ground advantage (starcraft),
- warcraft 3 upkeep,
- company of heroes true sight,
- age of empires random map scripts,
- dynamic cover (COH, C&C),
- positional play (people like siege tanks), etc.
maru lover forever
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
May 10 2016 22:06 GMT
#8
Aoe3 is pretty cool; a friend of mine hooked me up on it as i didn t want to give up the 2;
I really can' t wait to see the 4 made and released
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
May 11 2016 08:30 GMT
#9
I know this is "done" but I just wanted to ask why no "multiple choice" was used?

On May 10 2016 03:31 Incognoto wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 10 2016 01:40 Jerubaal wrote:
I agree with Chill and I think you did about as good a job as you could, but I still felt like there was a lot of room for people to answer, in the words of Blizzard, what they think they like as opposed to what they actually like.


I agree, sometimes people just have more things to say. If I get around to making another survey, then I'll try to give people more room to give their thoughts in that regard.

@Dingodile, I've never played WC3, for me it's mostly Starcraft 2 and Age of Empires 3.

On May 10 2016 02:10 B-royal wrote:
Nice survey, I did have to think quite hard about RTS design features, perhaps it could be helpful to list some examples yourself since I wasn't sure what precisely qualifies as a RTS design feature.


You can edit your answer I think, not sure. Design features can be anything, from the stuff I've gotten so far, here are a few examples:
- high-ground advantage (starcraft),
- warcraft 3 upkeep,
- company of heroes true sight,
- age of empires random map scripts,
- dynamic cover (COH, C&C),
- positional play (people like siege tanks), etc.


Also, this list seems very short
There are a lot more features/gameplays that are being incorporated within rts canvas`...
"not enough rights"
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 10:02:32
May 11 2016 10:01 GMT
#10
It was just a short list off the top of my head, to give a few examples of what I meant with "design features". That list is indeed very short.

Otherwise, I agree some questions weren't allowing people to nuance their views, something to maybe look into for a subsequent survey.
maru lover forever
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
May 12 2016 17:59 GMT
#11
I find it interesting that the answers are homogenous when it comes to prioritizing the key aspects of the game. The majority wants a balance between macro and micro, but I doubt it really shows what people think. I distinctively remember heated arguments with W3/AoE fans against BW veterans in the SCII beta. The AoE people generally liked the game as it was, the BW people flamed the shit out of the seemingly automated macro system, whereas the W3 people complained on the poor focus on micro. However, all of them agreed the mix should be more balanced.
It might be nice to add scales next time, e.g. rating how hard you find a special task and how important you think it is - from 0 to 5 or something. This might put some of the answers given into a different perspective.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 12 2016 19:12 GMT
#12
Yeah for sure, I think that's a bit better, allows people to nuance what they say!

I'm also really liking that there is consensus on a lot of stuff, across all communities. Everyone seems to agree for example, that RTS games should not be "one-dimensional". It shouldn't be only strategy or only mechanics, or stuff like that.

The idea behind an RTS is that strategy, mechanics, micro and macro need to blend together in an interesting way.
maru lover forever
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 14:19:42
May 13 2016 07:55 GMT
#13
The weird thing is that these stats reflect what people voted for.. not their actual preferences.

I really wish blizzard grew balls again and published the real stats, ergo
WHAT PEOPLE REALLY PLAY!

.. but to them this info is both gold and quagmire (a darkness they fear would destroy all (squadron supreme reference))...

They should be made to give us that information, the time of secretiveness and behind the scene has long past.. but you kids can't be bothered to lobby properly for it apparently.
[insert illegal sadness themed emote in your mind here]
"not enough rights"
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
May 13 2016 12:19 GMT
#14
"dark templar invisible"
"is the dark templar invisible?"
Is this Bisu?
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1618
Hyuk 364
GuemChi 345
actioN 299
Leta 209
Dewaltoss 89
sSak 80
Hm[arnc] 75
Killer 27
Aegong 26
[ Show more ]
yabsab 21
sorry 19
Sharp 14
Noble 7
Dota 2
febbydoto98
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss337
Other Games
summit1g12291
ceh9589
Happy359
XaKoH 220
Pyrionflax70
OGKoka 54
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick948
BasetradeTV44
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH358
• LUISG 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2188
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2h 31m
herO vs SHIN
Percival vs ByuN
RotterdaM Event
7h 46m
Replay Cast
15h 31m
GSL
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
GSL
2 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.