• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:19
CEST 00:19
KST 07:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-68SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #3/8 - Clem Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 Data needed
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3487 users

Survey on RTS design

Blogs > Incognoto
Post a Reply
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 18:32:52
May 09 2016 09:46 GMT
#1
Click

I started becoming really curious about other RTS games and I decided to write up a small survey. The idea is to reach out to as many RTS fans as possible and ask a few simple questions.

I'm especially interested in the answers in the open questions.

Just a small thing I put together for fun. Obviously results will be made public later on, when I figure out how to make that work.

Edit: Here are results (though answering is still possible) : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1U0We4aAUS7nM8TvXjNl7AGi9-UZsXUwjaByeG64D_5k/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm

maru lover forever
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
May 09 2016 13:30 GMT
#2
Not sure what the aim was, but I answered. It was pretty well-written, I rarely found I wanted an answer that wasn't on the list.
Moderator
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 09 2016 13:43 GMT
#3
Oh, thank you for the kind words, glad the answers made sense!

It's true there isn't really a goal with this survey, it's something I wrote some time ago. I guess I'm just very curious on how people regard the RTS genre, there are plenty of titles out there which people enjoy.
maru lover forever
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 09 2016 16:40 GMT
#4
I agree with Chill and I think you did about as good a job as you could, but I still felt like there was a lot of room for people to answer, in the words of Blizzard, what they think they like as opposed to what they actually like.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
May 09 2016 16:43 GMT
#5
A very well written survey! Based on all answers it looks like you have played sc2 and wc3 over 90% of your RTS playtime.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
May 09 2016 17:10 GMT
#6
Nice survey, I did have to think quite hard about RTS design features, perhaps it could be helpful to list some examples yourself since I wasn't sure what precisely qualifies as a RTS design feature.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 09 2016 18:31 GMT
#7
On May 10 2016 01:40 Jerubaal wrote:
I agree with Chill and I think you did about as good a job as you could, but I still felt like there was a lot of room for people to answer, in the words of Blizzard, what they think they like as opposed to what they actually like.


I agree, sometimes people just have more things to say. If I get around to making another survey, then I'll try to give people more room to give their thoughts in that regard.

@Dingodile, I've never played WC3, for me it's mostly Starcraft 2 and Age of Empires 3.

On May 10 2016 02:10 B-royal wrote:
Nice survey, I did have to think quite hard about RTS design features, perhaps it could be helpful to list some examples yourself since I wasn't sure what precisely qualifies as a RTS design feature.


You can edit your answer I think, not sure. Design features can be anything, from the stuff I've gotten so far, here are a few examples:
- high-ground advantage (starcraft),
- warcraft 3 upkeep,
- company of heroes true sight,
- age of empires random map scripts,
- dynamic cover (COH, C&C),
- positional play (people like siege tanks), etc.
maru lover forever
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
May 10 2016 22:06 GMT
#8
Aoe3 is pretty cool; a friend of mine hooked me up on it as i didn t want to give up the 2;
I really can' t wait to see the 4 made and released
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
May 11 2016 08:30 GMT
#9
I know this is "done" but I just wanted to ask why no "multiple choice" was used?

On May 10 2016 03:31 Incognoto wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 10 2016 01:40 Jerubaal wrote:
I agree with Chill and I think you did about as good a job as you could, but I still felt like there was a lot of room for people to answer, in the words of Blizzard, what they think they like as opposed to what they actually like.


I agree, sometimes people just have more things to say. If I get around to making another survey, then I'll try to give people more room to give their thoughts in that regard.

@Dingodile, I've never played WC3, for me it's mostly Starcraft 2 and Age of Empires 3.

On May 10 2016 02:10 B-royal wrote:
Nice survey, I did have to think quite hard about RTS design features, perhaps it could be helpful to list some examples yourself since I wasn't sure what precisely qualifies as a RTS design feature.


You can edit your answer I think, not sure. Design features can be anything, from the stuff I've gotten so far, here are a few examples:
- high-ground advantage (starcraft),
- warcraft 3 upkeep,
- company of heroes true sight,
- age of empires random map scripts,
- dynamic cover (COH, C&C),
- positional play (people like siege tanks), etc.


Also, this list seems very short
There are a lot more features/gameplays that are being incorporated within rts canvas`...
"not enough rights"
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 10:02:32
May 11 2016 10:01 GMT
#10
It was just a short list off the top of my head, to give a few examples of what I meant with "design features". That list is indeed very short.

Otherwise, I agree some questions weren't allowing people to nuance their views, something to maybe look into for a subsequent survey.
maru lover forever
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
May 12 2016 17:59 GMT
#11
I find it interesting that the answers are homogenous when it comes to prioritizing the key aspects of the game. The majority wants a balance between macro and micro, but I doubt it really shows what people think. I distinctively remember heated arguments with W3/AoE fans against BW veterans in the SCII beta. The AoE people generally liked the game as it was, the BW people flamed the shit out of the seemingly automated macro system, whereas the W3 people complained on the poor focus on micro. However, all of them agreed the mix should be more balanced.
It might be nice to add scales next time, e.g. rating how hard you find a special task and how important you think it is - from 0 to 5 or something. This might put some of the answers given into a different perspective.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 12 2016 19:12 GMT
#12
Yeah for sure, I think that's a bit better, allows people to nuance what they say!

I'm also really liking that there is consensus on a lot of stuff, across all communities. Everyone seems to agree for example, that RTS games should not be "one-dimensional". It shouldn't be only strategy or only mechanics, or stuff like that.

The idea behind an RTS is that strategy, mechanics, micro and macro need to blend together in an interesting way.
maru lover forever
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 14:19:42
May 13 2016 07:55 GMT
#13
The weird thing is that these stats reflect what people voted for.. not their actual preferences.

I really wish blizzard grew balls again and published the real stats, ergo
WHAT PEOPLE REALLY PLAY!

.. but to them this info is both gold and quagmire (a darkness they fear would destroy all (squadron supreme reference))...

They should be made to give us that information, the time of secretiveness and behind the scene has long past.. but you kids can't be bothered to lobby properly for it apparently.
[insert illegal sadness themed emote in your mind here]
"not enough rights"
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
May 13 2016 12:19 GMT
#14
"dark templar invisible"
"is the dark templar invisible?"
Is this Bisu?
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 155
ViBE144
ProTech84
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 188
Purpose 21
League of Legends
Doublelift4092
Counter-Strike
summit1g7079
tarik_tv2539
Other Games
gofns13110
Grubby2010
FrodaN543
B2W.Neo331
ToD225
C9.Mang0171
UpATreeSC108
Mew2King53
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 57
• RyuSc2 6
• OhrlRock 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21513
League of Legends
• imaqtpie2145
• Shiphtur261
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 41m
Escore
11h 41m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
12h 41m
Big Brain Bouts
17h 41m
DnS vs Rex
Reynor vs Cure
Replay Cast
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 10h
herO vs SHIN
Clem vs Solar
Serral vs Rogue
Ladder Legends
1d 19h
Ladder Legends
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-05
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.