EPTWas SW7 worse than the prequels? - Page 2
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Gullis
Sweden740 Posts
But if one is gonna be critical of those moment you also have to be critical of certain no look, no scope mlg headshots by Fin and Han, not to mention some of the flying maneuvers. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
Look at the 03:00 mark of this clip to have a laugh. LOL. Wtf is that? | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On December 22 2015 05:11 NukeD wrote: I actually watched the prequell lightsaber duels because of this blog. They are as bad as I remember, some even worse. Look at the 03:00 mark of this clip to have a laugh. LOL. Wtf is that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xP3fI7yn5s Now that you brought it up, this fight reminds me of the Peter vs Chicken fights in Family Guy more than Star Wars. | ||
mustaju
Estonia4505 Posts
On December 22 2015 05:15 LegalLord wrote: Now that you brought it up, this fight reminds me of the Peter vs Chicken fights in Family Guy more than Star Wars. This is a valid point. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On December 22 2015 05:15 LegalLord wrote: Now that you brought it up, this fight reminds me of the Peter vs Chicken fights in Family Guy more than Star Wars. Hahhahhaahha yeah definitelly. Good catch. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 22 2015 05:11 NukeD wrote: I actually watched the prequell lightsaber duels because of this blog. They are as bad as I remember, some even worse. Look at the 03:00 mark of this clip to have a laugh. LOL. Wtf is that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xP3fI7yn5s Still better then OT and Force Awakens lightsaber duels in terms of action wise. I didn't know people even complained about the prequel lightsaber fights, people bitch about anything prequel related. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
What's important is the story that the battle tells. Why are the characters fighting, and what's at stake here? The prequels have a rather generic "good vs. evil" story in that sense, while each of the OT battles has more depth than that (master vs. student, son vs. father on Bespin, Luke's fully realized Jedi power against Jabba, son vs. father again on the Death Star). The Obi-Wan vs. Anakin, Anakin vs. Dooku part 2, and Yoda vs. Dooku fights all had the potential for this kind of interaction, but instead to their detriment they focused on choreography and flashy effects. And a lot of the others were just childish action sequences with little to no deeper meaning, such as Grievous vs. Obi-Wan. Finn vs. Ren showed a frightened nobody fighting and barely holding on against a wounded but extremely destructive dark Jedi. Rey vs. Ren showed Rey realizing her Force power and using it to defend against the same. Both the Vader vs. Luke duels were better for sure, but I'd say it's significantly better than Vader vs. Obi-Wan, which was still of higher quality story-wise than most if not all of the prequel duels. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
This movie really wasn't that good, but at least it was the funnish type of junk Star Wars. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On December 22 2015 06:50 Endymion wrote: i disagree with you guys on the anakin vs obiwan fight. what's wrong with them being caught in a motion? haven't you ever seen end game BW ZvT, where there are massive mech lines vs zerg and the two players can't immediately attack because the situation doesn't call for it? or haven't you ever watched professional GO players, where there can be move chains that are derived from positioning that go on for dozens of turns, just from pure momentum? from the EU, obiwan is meant to be one of the most powerful living jedi masters (when it comes to dueling), and anakin is no different.. they also trained together for like 10 years.. if anything the stagnation of the fight is meant to show just how good each character is at what they're doing, and how well they're reading their opponent.. personally, i think episode 3 is the best starwars movie by a long shot, i think it blows empire strikes back out of the water. anakin and obiwan are much more compelling characters than luke and vader. This post gave me cancer. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Don't read the post before my one then. That would only make it worse. | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32160 Posts
Agreed this is not a perfect movie. i enjoyed it, I am seeing it again soon, I would say a solid 7-8. I think slightly more politics/backstory would have been good without compromising the cliffhanger. I 100% agree about the star killer - not nearly enough gravity to that situation, or the assault itself. Felt way too easy, just there to basically move the story and us closer to Han's death. There was enough action that the movie could have had some slower movement to deliver some more detail. This is still a total set up movie though. Most of us here (assuming ages) didn't see the original triliogy when it came out and lose out on perspective of how the first one set up the trilogy, and left a lot of questions that were answered later. This is very similar to that. However, in trying to do that and please old fans with nods to the original, I feel they borrowed too much, bordering on a template swap. Rey being naturally better than the force fits within the boundaries of the universe where some people can naturally do stuff like shoot lighting from their hands and what not. Vader as a kid was a prodigy unlike many others, way more powerful than others, but very raw. Why is it so hard to believe that there might be someone (most likely his granddaughter - luke's kid imo) whose raw baseline is much higher than other force sensitive people?? I also interpreted a lot of the big fight at the end being Kylo Ren toying with them at first and then getting overwhelmed when he realizes the depth of her power. I saw it mentioned in the main sw7 thread, but he's very desperate and alone, and telling Ren that he can teach her is very much part becuse he doesn't want to be alone imo. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10348 Posts
On December 22 2015 05:11 NukeD wrote: I actually watched the prequell lightsaber duels because of this blog. They are as bad as I remember, some even worse. Look at the 03:00 mark of this clip to have a laugh. LOL. Wtf is that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xP3fI7yn5s To Obi's credit, Ani was the chosen one! | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On December 22 2015 05:11 NukeD wrote: I actually watched the prequell lightsaber duels because of this blog. They are as bad as I remember, some even worse. Look at the 03:00 mark of this clip to have a laugh. LOL. Wtf is that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xP3fI7yn5s Watched that clip, and the first thing that sprung to mind was "wow, this is some seriously terrible acting from everyone present in the scene". Going to see EP7 tomorrow. Not being a Star Wars fan by any stretch of the imagination I don't really have any expectations. I've seen all movies except EP2, and they were OK but in no way would I rank them among the best or most gripping movies I've ever seen. I actually prefer the lightsabre duels of EPs 4-6: it was less spectacular but at least Vader and Luke were actually trying to hit each other instead of pointlessly banging their lightsabres against each other. What I also liked was how Luke never became superstrong: he was clumsy in EP4 and still a clumsy, terrible sword fighter in EP6. | ||
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Espers
United Kingdom606 Posts
When they murdered all the Jedi in the last prequel it was actually pretty exciting, I was invested. The whole finale with the Planet-Destroying thing, did anyone actually care? The whole battle seemed just seemed incidental, and the characters don't even to seem to really give a fuck about this weapon. No build-up, no emotional investment... | ||
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