• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:26
CEST 20:26
KST 03:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1861 users

Back to WoL 2.9: What the what?

Blogs > ChristianS
Post a Reply
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 06 2015 06:46 GMT
#1
It seems like every time I try to do an episodic blog series, I get a couple episodes in before some massive roadblock gets in the way. In this case Blizzard decided to patch the replay system to make old replays unplayable - apparently thwarting all current hacks of the SC2 engine, but also destroying many of my replays before I got a chance to go through them to take notes and screenshots.

[image loading]
Clearly the brief amusement of my ~1000 readers is more important than the competitive integrity of the SC2 ladder. Another bone-headed move by Blizz!

In addition to this, my Battle.net or SC2 client or something managed to break in an extremely frustrating manner: SC2, despite being on the most recent patch, insisted that a) it needed to download an update, but b) it needed to wait for another game to update first (the only other game on the computer, Hearthstone, was up to date and made no effort to download any patch). Every time I tried to pause all other updates, move the SC2 update to the front of the queue, scan and repair SC2, or even uninstall the game, an error message informed me that Battle.net had encountered an error from trying to perform two actions at once, and referred me to a tech support page that essentially told me to 1) wait 15 minutes, and then 2) turn it off and on again. Once upon a time you could just boot SC2 directly by opening SC2Switcher, but apparently now it won't let you.

Ultimately I had to delete the program files of both Battle.net and Starcraft II and reinstall them to get it to work. Somehow my replays are still present, even if most of them don't work (where does it store them if not in program files?), but this has all set part three back quite a bit. Just an update for all two of you that actually read parts one and two and have been waiting for the next one.

In the meantime, though, I had a screenshot from one of my games in an (apparently) bugged SC2 client which has brought me a great deal of pleasure. I don't know how this was brought about; I assume somewhere in the code a signed int variable tried to decrement from 0, though I have no idea how I achieved this.

[image loading]
You know, I've been working on keeping up with constant worker production, and I think I've really improved.


It fixed itself when the next workers rallied to that mineral line, but I was excited enough that I thought I'd share it in a blog. If anyone has encountered this before or has any idea how to recreate this bug, I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, I hope it delights you as much as it did me. Enjoy!

**
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 06 2015 07:48 GMT
#2
more mules are mining than workers create this bug, since patch 3.0.3
2^32-1=4294967295
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
November 06 2015 08:08 GMT
#3
Wow, that's the first time I had more MULEs than SCVs on a base since the patch? Crazy. Obvious question, why were they messing with the code for the worker counter in Patch 3.0.3 anyway?
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
November 06 2015 10:06 GMT
#4
My guess is that they weren't working on the worker count directly, but somehow changed something in another part of the code that ultimately caused that bug. If they were working on the worker count, they would have checked the result and it would have been obvious there was an error (hopefully).
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
November 06 2015 10:45 GMT
#5
On November 06 2015 19:06 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote:
My guess is that they weren't working on the worker count directly, but somehow changed something in another part of the code that ultimately caused that bug. If they were working on the worker count, they would have checked the result and it would have been obvious there was an error (hopefully).

90% of my colleagues:
It was just a simple refactoring. The change was really small. Its impossible that there is a bug now.

Yeah, sure.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 06 2015 10:48 GMT
#6
MULES didnt count on workers display before 3.0.3 I think.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 07 2015 02:44 GMT
#7
They just added a realistic estimate of how many scvs a mule is worth.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
November 09 2015 17:09 GMT
#8
On November 07 2015 11:44 Cascade wrote:
They just added a realistic estimate of how many scvs a mule is worth.

And here we thought they were something like 6 times as effective. Turns out we were off by several orders of magnitude. Thanks Blizz.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
November 09 2015 18:36 GMT
#9
Mules OP!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
15:00
Valedictorian Cup #1
Solar vs Cham
SteadfastSC332
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 332
ProTech131
BRAT_OK 61
UpATreeSC 24
EmSc Tv 21
Ketroc 17
JuggernautJason13
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 181
Dewaltoss 128
Hyun 95
Rock 37
Pusan 31
soO 28
IntoTheRainbow 18
GoRush 14
Dota 2
Gorgc7339
Counter-Strike
fl0m1975
byalli1441
minikerr18
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe164
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor765
Liquid`Hasu541
MindelVK11
Other Games
Grubby2729
singsing1687
FrodaN1144
B2W.Neo688
RotterdaM443
shahzam292
Sick279
mouzStarbuck258
QueenE174
KnowMe154
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream20729
Other Games
gamesdonequick1295
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 451
angryscii 32
EmSc Tv 21
EmSc2Tv 21
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 60
• Hupsaiya 39
• Adnapsc2 9
• Dystopia_ 1
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 34
• 80smullet 17
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV327
League of Legends
• Jankos4203
• TFBlade1307
Other Games
• imaqtpie961
• Shiphtur258
Upcoming Events
BSL
34m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 34m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
16h 34m
Ladder Legends
20h 34m
BSL
1d
CranKy Ducklings
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Wardi Open
1d 15h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.