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bypLy
757 Posts
starcraft is a good game, temporary balance issues here and there but the game is perfect for me. But what is the most important aspect of a good game? To be able to fucking play it without some idiots ruining the experience. Now it seems possible, finally. The best news in a lifetime its also on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/3ol4xr/sc2_30_has_disabled_all_external_maphacks_sad_day/ | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
It's great news. Hacks will be back for sure, but for now it will be much cleaner on the ladder  . | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On October 14 2015 00:48 Ej_ wrote: PartinG's passion restored? Whut? Are there more details on this? Thanks in advance! | ||
The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On October 14 2015 00:52 deacon.frost wrote: Whut? Are there more details on this? Thanks in advance! Many Koreans were really angry about the maphacking situation and went so far as to say ladder was unplayable. Even the number 1 GM on Korea was a known maphacker. I guess Parting was also one of the more frustrated guys? | ||
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wjat
385 Posts
I don't want to sound dumb but isn't this tweet basically saying "hey guys, come and try to hack me." | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On October 14 2015 01:24 wjat wrote: Wow it would be amazing... I don't want to sound dumb but isn't this tweet basically saying "hey guys, come and try to hack me." That tweet was made by a hacker, not by a Blizzard employee or serious Starcraft II player. The hacker community basically admitted defeat (for now)  . | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On October 14 2015 01:15 Musicus wrote: Many Koreans were really angry about the maphacking situation and went so far as to say ladder was unplayable. Even the number 1 GM on Korea was a known maphacker. I guess Parting was also one of the more frustrated guys? | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On October 14 2015 01:15 Musicus wrote: Many Koreans were really angry about the maphacking situation and went so far as to say ladder was unplayable. Even the number 1 GM on Korea was a known maphacker. I guess Parting was also one of the more frustrated guys? He got really frustrated. | ||
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RoomOfMush
1296 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 14 2015 01:39 RoomOfMush wrote: They will be back soon enough. Its not going to last long. The question is what actually made this say that. If it takes them 6 months of work now to hack it again, then Blizzard can just change one thing and it takes another 6 months,... Then they're probably just going to say "Fuck, this is not worth it". Only paid hacks would exist. And then it's a question of "are people willing to pay enough for this?". That being said, this is assuming that Blizzard really did find a good way to solve this problem. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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sc2chronic
United States777 Posts
unless its entirely impossible to hack again in the future, this is just weekly news material | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
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TheWinks
United States572 Posts
On October 14 2015 02:04 sc2chronic wrote: what is the difference between this and WOL/HOTS ban waves+patches that disabled hacks for a few weeks? unless its entirely impossible to hack again in the future, this is just weekly news material The patches just moved where the information is stored in the RAM, so they just had to figure out what the new addresses were. They didn't really disable hacks for a few weeks so much as disabled hacks until the creators decided to quickly fix it. Unless Blizzard has done something really crazy, I expect a proof of concept of a 3.0 hack to be figured out before the end of the month sadly. | ||
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varsovie
Canada326 Posts
On October 14 2015 01:45 KeksX wrote: The question is what actually made this say that. If it takes them 6 months of work now to hack it again, but then Blizzard can just change 1 thing and it takes another 6 month, then they're probably saying "Fuck, this is not worth it" and probably only paid hacks will exist. And then it's a question of "are people willing to pay enough for this?". That being said, this is assuming that Blizzard really did find a good way to solve this problem. Blizz did it often, and it was simple to only find the offset (new memory address) of the same old structure. The only reasons hacks don't work anymore is the save replays don't work, Blizz changed big chunk of the actual game logic. And I'll guess some of the changes they've made was only to break hacks (and it broke both internal and external ones), but that's just speculations. They did a similar "get the hackers" move by scanning/monitoring some specific address used by a somewhat popular hack few patches ago (wasn't hard really since all the code is opensourced on github). Point is even with the "dead gaem" meme, SC2 remains popular not only with gamers, but from hackers. Even people that don't want to make a full hack might want to scan the interesting/dangerous (used by warden) addresses, there will be an incentive for paid hacks and there will be people that hack the game for pride and/or fun. And after a short google I can safely says hackers are already teaming up to find a new API, even those that make $, because they sell on quality not exclusivity. Once it's done hacks themselves are pretty easy to do (not even 50 lines of codes for most basic maphacks), or even path the old ones. Sadly I do not have a magic way to fix the hacking issues, the only thing I'm sure is that with a synchronous engine thee's no amount of software solution that would work and still run the game decently fast. It should comes from the policies and the way they handle the hackers. Even just having a feedback from the report button (player x repported xx/xx/xx was banned today) or a simple invoice acknowledgement on their hack email would help not feeling helpless. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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