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Thoughts on Grad School, Writing, and Advisors

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Supramanax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 03:40:59
June 01 2015 02:00 GMT
#1
Hey everyone,

It's been awhile since I've been on TeamLiquid lurking or what have you, but I recently feel that I need to start making some changes in my life. This includes going back to some of my old passions, one of which being Starcraft, and it also includes writing more, to improve my ability to communicate. Hence here I am!

I have not ever been very active in the community, but starting now is better than never so here it goes. To clear up the suspense from my last blog, I am now enrolled in graduate school in Aerospace Engineering, which has been amazing. Although there are the stressful and trying periods, and times where I need to convince myself it was the right decision, the amount you learn and the insanely smart people you meet is worth it. For anyone thinking about going to graduate school after undergraduate, I ask yourself if you've found the field that you want to work in, and then ask yourself what it takes to do the kind of work that you want to do. After that, and only after that should you make the plunge. Graduate school isn't for everyone, but anyone can do well if they have a passion for the material.

Aside from convincing myself why I need to still be in school, I wanted to have a medium to share my writing both for practice and to get feedback. I recently read an article talking about how STEM (Science Technology Engineering Mathematics) should instead become STEAM, where the A stands for Arts. This was an interesting concept for me because of two reasons. The first was ever since I entered college, I stopped practicing writing, grammar, and many other key written communication skills that lose focus while in an engineering school. The second was the fact that I see the lack of these skills biting people in the ass, including myself. I that it was a skill that I was lacking in, but I had never considered trying to improve it. Echoing my thoughts: "Why should I? Isn't the whole point of engineering to design something so incredible, the work speaks for itself? If my work is good enough, I shouldn't need to be able to explain to others, it's clear!". Writing those thoughts out really makes me see how arrogant that sounds, and hence my goal is to try to post a blog at least once a week, about anything really, but probably about graduate school.

In other news I had some other thoughts about the whole student-advisor relationship. Long story short my advisor is relatively new, only become a professor about 2 and a half years ago, and I joined his a year ago. I feel that much of graduate school is about self motivation, and being notoriously awful at that I struggled to push past the expectations that he set for me, and even those that I set for myself. Fast forward a year and here I am (out of state from my university) working on my first conference paper to submit. While I understand I shouldn't rely on him, I find it frustrating that the time he spends reviewing on the paper with me less than 15 minutes, never mind the fact that we are talking over Skype over 5 hours past the time we had agreed upon the week before. In his defense he also has 7 other students (the majority of us first years) and we are all applying to the same conference. Also, I am the only one who actively sought out a summer internship hence I am out of town, this makes it harder for us to collaborate (I found a good opportunity that aligns with my research, and had no reason to stay in town aside from working on my research). I suppose the takeaway is to aim to become more independent from my advisor by focusing on my research and letting him advise, not lead. It's a different concept that what I pictured graduate school being like, but I believe its best to not let myself get hung up on the disappointments on my situation, but to press forward and make the best with what I have.

Alright, I think its time to close the book on this one. Any thoughts are appreciated, especially any of you that have been in a similar situation from work, school, or life. Feel free to PM if you'd like to talk or ask anything.

Thanks for reading!

TL:DR- Grad school is hard but fun, writing is an important skill at life, learning to work closely with someone can be difficult.


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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46402 Posts
June 01 2015 02:10 GMT
#2
It sounds like you're having a good time and surrounding yourself with really smart and exciting people I loved grad school (mathematics education); just make sure your advisor is good at mentoring you!

Good luck
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Textual
Profile Joined June 2014
Saudi Arabia57 Posts
June 01 2015 05:44 GMT
#3
Congrats on getting into Grad school!

I definitely think arts and sciences should be less segregated. Some of the most influential literary critics, like Walter Benjamin or Pierre Bourdieu, are guided by empirical analyses and have a strong scientific flavour to their work. Some of the most influential science educators, like Neil de Grasse Tyson or Carl Sagan, are guided by aesthetic appreciation for their subjects and have a strong artistic flavour to their work.

I forget who pointed this out, but philosophy overlaps with science as often as mathematics does - real theoretical mathematics is, after all, often totally independent of anything we might more properly call "science". Theoretical physics, on the other hand, is very near to philosophy. So sometimes these divisions are arbitrary and probably won't stand in a hundred years. Less than two-hundred years ago science was known as "natural philosophy", after all. Leonardo Da Vinci and the other Renaissance men wouldn't have understood the division.

The best thinkers of our age, like Mr. Sagan or Mr. Benjamin, have likewise ignored those divisions. Their work has been specialized, but not compartmentalized - the arts and sciences interpenetrate and fertilize their work.

You said that you are interested in practicing writing and communication. If that's the case, I highly recommend (and this isn't my idea, it's a common bit of advice) that you read high quality English. Good writing often requires good judgement, and you can't make good judgement calls without some experience and precedent to draw from. The more the better. So read. It doesn't really matter what you read, so long as it is of a certain standard of quality. I don't mean to sound snobbish saying that, I just mean that you can learn more from master craftsmen than you can from apprentices, and there are certainly masters and apprentices in English.

Good luck and enjoy!
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 06:11:10
June 01 2015 06:10 GMT
#4
Yes they ideally should not be segregated, and there should be some language courses at the very least.

Having more technical in some arts classes wouldn't hurt either when they are there to correct/educate some of the scientifically ignorant arts students which are out there spewing quantum shit :D

Of course it also exposes them to other ways of thinking, which is really needed for certain people.

Good luck!
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Textual
Profile Joined June 2014
Saudi Arabia57 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 11:28:11
June 01 2015 11:27 GMT
#5
On June 01 2015 15:10 JieXian wrote:
Having more technical in some arts classes wouldn't hurt either when they are there to correct/educate some of the scientifically ignorant arts students which are out there spewing quantum shit :D


I completely agree. Given the rapid growth and saturation of scientific research and technology in society today, scientific literacy is necessary for mature democracies to make conscious, informed decisions. Otherwise it's just appropriated by hocus pocus con-artists - see Deepak Chopra et al.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 14:06:25
June 01 2015 14:04 GMT
#6
I am an engineering student in Canada, and I have not taken any technical writing courses, and my program does not mandate that we every take them. I'm not even sure if we have them at my school. That being said, we have to write reports for certain courses, where we are also evaluated on grammar, and have a TA (teaching assistant (someone hired by the university to help with tasks that a single professor can't do on his/her own)) that meets with us after every report to discuss the strengths/weaknesses. I would argue that all STEM disciplines should have an explicit technical writing course of some variety, because it is hard to learn to think like an engineer, and learn to write reports effectively in one course.
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