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On April 17 2015 22:16 3point14 wrote:well, since you are not even 18, there is a big chance your worldview is still missing some big puzzlepieces. My advice would be, to read some books about success, psychology and especially "how to learn stuff quickly". There are many worse ways of spending a year, than playing Sc2 to the fullest. You will learn a lot about mindset, endurance and yourself. Going from highschool to college without ever thinking about your life and what you really want, is just as well a very risky road; cause if you dont like your studies, then you have wasted several years and in USA a big load of money for nothing. and that happens to people a lot too. I dont really see a prob. most likely you are gonna give up after 1 month anyways, even giving up after a year would give you valuable lessons and some fun memories and some nice replays where you beat pros. but maybe maybe maaayyyybeee you are the next stephano  )) gl
I hope so XD
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On April 17 2015 20:52 HaRuHi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 20:49 revalence123 wrote:On April 17 2015 15:50 Elegy wrote:
idk how much you are playing now, but if you're playing 2-3 hours a day (for example), nothing's going to change if you bump it to 6-10.
Chasing pro-gaming as a career for an entire year is utterly foolish. Think about everyone else in gold, plat, diamond, masters, and GM. Every single one of them is better than you and will continue to get better.
Just thought I should point out, it I wasn't already in a position where I couldn't do anything for a year, then I WOULD NOT be doing this. Your right, if I already wasn't in a position to not be able to get into college do to my ACT being a little to low, this would be out of the question. But, the only thing I can do is just try. I have a year to kill, accept for the time I will be studying, so why not. And there goes the passion. Shame on you for using the word Dream in your title, I don't expect anything will come out of this then.
Trust me the dream is real. #PassionCraftFTW
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On April 17 2015 15:57 EatThePath wrote:If you're in gold right now, you have a lot to work on. You need to have a rotation this year while you prepare for everything you might do: - Study for ACT
- Study a practical or academic subject of your choice on your own direction
- Job to contribute to your family / support yourself
- Practice socializing. If you think I'm joking it just shows how much you should. (Tip: it's an adventure.)
- Figure out who you are. This requires doing things outside your normal purview.
- Improve at SC2.
- Find a form of exercise you enjoy. This will make you better at SC2, I promise.
If SC2 is your dream, let it be your home port while you sail out onto the other parts of life. You want to explore and see what's out there right? By all means, elevate your passion and hold to what is affirming in it. In doing so, make sure it teaches you more about yourself and what you need, because your dream is part of you, but you are not your dream. Be honest, earnest, and open, and you can't go wrong.
I actually really appreciate the advice. I know I have a lot to do, and that if I want to give this a good shot it will be a huge balancing act of not risking my future and growing as a person.
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On April 17 2015 22:37 QuanticHawk wrote:
if you're just gold playing casually you're not gonna get anywhere man. Focus on studying, learning about the viable careers you mentioned, and get a real job to start paying bills rather than playing a video game 40+ hours a week without generating any income.
Yeah I was waiting for someone to tell me to get a real job XDXDXD
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that's not to say you shouldn't pursue your dream no matter how miniscule your chances are (let's be frank: they're just about zero). But you can do this while making the more important things in your life a higher priority.
You are 18 and you're not in school. You should be working full time if you are not going to school, even if you will be going to school next year. Plenty of people get to much higher rankings while holding down full time jobs and school. You didn't get into your school of choice because you were lazy and your response is to... invest more time into video games. That isn't good.
SC2 should be a distant priority behind:
a) studying for the act (frankly the fact that you didn't prep for something as important as this speaks volumes about your maturity and dedication. You won't go far in sc2 or, more importantly, life half assing major stuff like that)
b) learning more about career options that are not sc2, and I mean more than just googling stuff for 10 minutes
c) getting a job even if it is flipping burgers for $7.50 an hour
d) growing as a person, finding new interests, making new friends, etc
your priorities are all backwards dawg
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I don't wanna talk about priorities in your life, just don't set such distant goals for yourself. You will lose (and maybe regain) motivation and change your mind dozens of times before you have the chance of reaching pro level. If you're gold, then getting masters is a reasonable goal. At that point, you can decide whether you're still motivated to continue or not (for example, if you get masters really quickly, then you should me more motivated imo). Go for GM, and once you're gm eu/kr you might decide whether you still want to go pro. Obviously it gets harder and harder all the time because the better you are, the more you practice, the more you are committed into playing sc2, and don't want to fail. But that might also give you more motivation. I would say that gold-masters = masters- gm and gold-gm = gm-pro, but don't take it literally.
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On April 17 2015 23:20 QuanticHawk wrote:
that's not to say you shouldn't pursue your dream no matter how miniscule your chances are (let's be frank: they're just about zero). But you can do this while making the more important things in your life a higher priority.
You are 18 and you're not in school. You should be working full time if you are not going to school, even if you will be going to school next year. Plenty of people get to much higher rankings while holding down full time jobs and school. You didn't get into your school of choice because you were lazy and your response is to... invest more time into video games. That isn't good.
SC2 should be a distant priority behind:
a) studying for the act (frankly the fact that you didn't prep for something as important as this speaks volumes about your maturity and dedication. You won't go far in sc2 or, more importantly, life half assing major stuff like that)
b) learning more about career options that are not sc2, and I mean more than just googling stuff for 10 minutes
c) getting a job even if it is flipping burgers for $7.50 an hour
d) growing as a person, finding new interests, making new friends, etc
your priorities are all backwards dawg
I thought I had made it clear, but I guess I didn't. I know that 9.99999999999 chances out of 10 this won't work out. I am still in school and after my last job ( closing at 12am or later 3 to 4 weekdays everyweek) I am waiting until I graduate. If I want to be a pro Sc2 can't be a distant priority, but I am taking steps to make sure that if or when I fail, my back end is covered so I can get on with my life and make something of myself doing what I love. And, because this is something that is super important, I am trying to work on my social skills the best I can. Be able to communicate and form solid relationships - business or otherwise - could make me sink or swim.
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People with backup plans never get very far.
Either you commit 100% to your goal and burn bridges or you don't.
Anything in between will lead to a half-assed attempt.
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If you really want to go through with this I would suggest a few things to test yourself and get to know yourself better than you can imagine.
Instead of investing MORE time into playing StarCraft II, focus on getting better in squeezing the most progress out of the limited time you can play next to working and studying. Your challenge should be to push your comfort zone by playing 2-3 hours a day next to doing what needs to be done, and analysing how you go about learning from every game played and situation encountered. Learning to overcome yourself and training your mentality. If you can constantly improve your discipline and improvement rate within the same time frame without losing motivation and it is enough to push you high up the ranks: CONTINUE by maintaining the balance you have created for yourself.
If you can do that and get yourself to the top of the chain, then you can always consider part-time school while having options to join a team who will support your dual path. And that's only in the most perfect of circumstances.
So make sure you work, study, work out (its very important to maintain physical health for SC2, especially if you ever attend a tournament and want to beat the fatigue), have some leisure and social time and spend your remaining time on SC2 (probably 2-3 hours a day).
Good luck!
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He said, paraphrasing a bit, that if foreigners could live like Korean progamers we could catch up.
What this entails is living in a teamhouse, practicing with A-team progamers on a strict regime for 14+ hours a day, with coaching. Take a look at the shows Nal_rA's Oldboy or Hyungjoon Becomes a Progamer if you want to see this.
Good luck, but I hope you realise there is a GIGANTIC gap between gold and master/GM and master/GM and pro, which beginners just don't see - for example, when you start playing Starcraft in general, and you read "always keep your money low", you might think "that's simple, my money is always low!" when you're running on 9 drones 10 minutes in. Simplified example here, but it applies to every part of Starcraft.
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I was going to comment about how I've seen this thread before and they've systematically failed, but hey, you're young. If this is your idea of an adventure, go ahead. That said, gold to pro is essentially impossible. People get to masters casually, like I did, and they still don't have the potential to go pro.
Cheers.
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On April 18 2015 05:24 Djzapz wrote:
I was going to comment about how I've seen this thread before and they've systematically failed, but hey, you're young. If this is your idea of an adventure, go ahead. That said, gold to pro is essentially impossible. People get to masters casually, like I did, and they still don't have the potential to go pro.
Cheers.
Eh I wouldn't call it an adventure, I get I am one of a hundred ambitious bastards who want to go pro. It is very narrow the chance of me making, but I just think I could give a shot.
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On April 18 2015 05:21 Garrl wrote:Show nested quote +He said, paraphrasing a bit, that if foreigners could live like Korean progamers we could catch up. What this entails is living in a teamhouse, practicing with A-team progamers on a strict regime for 14+ hours a day, with coaching. Take a look at the shows Nal_rA's Oldboy or Hyungjoon Becomes a Progamer if you want to see this. Good luck, but I hope you realise there is a GIGANTIC gap between gold and master/GM and master/GM and pro, which beginners just don't see - for example, when you start playing Starcraft in general, and you read "always keep your money low", you might think "that's simple, my money is always low!" when you're running on 9 drones 10 minutes in. Simplified example here, but it applies to every part of Starcraft.
Yeah I kinda figured that the gap between gold to masters is huge, but not impossibly big, Masters to GM is like a ravine, and GM to pro is...welll... does the grand canyon ring a bell XD.
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On April 18 2015 03:09 fancyClown wrote:
People with backup plans never get very far.
Either you commit 100% to your goal and burn bridges or you don't.
Anything in between will lead to a half-assed attempt.
Ummm having a back up plan isn't doing something half assed its being smart.
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Making a backup plan takes up a part of your attention which otherwise you would have given to your primary goal.
E.g., If you have to work 24/7 toward becoming a pro, sparing even 5 min. every day thinking about a backup plan would decrease the amount of time you could have given to becoming a pro.
Also, having a backup plan itself shows your own lack of confidence in achieving your primary goal.
This is basic psychology.
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i think you're screwed, go out there and prove me wrong buddy
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Good luck! I tried and failed but now I see that it wasn't in my path, maybe it is in yours . Just try to practice effenciently and don't let loses tear you down like they did me and you may just get your dream or at least a shot at it like I did.
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On April 18 2015 08:57 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
i think you're screwed, go out there and prove me wrong buddy
=D
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Your absolute top prio must be college. Before you judge this answer from the first sentence, think deeper.
If you want to be super badass about it, use your spare time to advance in SC2 and get out of gold league; it's good to reflect on life choices but don't waste too much time pondering "is this right, is that wrong", those are hours wasted that couldve been either studying for college, or training to get better at SC2. You should not even allow yourself the chance to fail college, because that's whats going to get you a job - if you in parallel get really good at SC2, that will only help you later. SC2 is a very tough game that teaches you principles that you use in daily life, like consistency, tenacity, determination, fast decision making, etc. Be smart about it, and learn the best of both worlds, with emphasis on college.
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didn't really read the thread or the op yet (and won't and it doesn't matter), but from my perspective, if you want to be "pro", you should work on getting a gold coin worth of edits first. like, you're not even having bronze coins, nor can you read teh hidden lickypiddy edit forum. how can you be pro that way? get your act together.
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