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Clash of LR titans: The_Templar vs GumBa Game 1

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 15:35:29
September 14 2014 03:21 GMT
#1
Disclaimer: this blog is mostly in the third person to make it look totally unbiased.

Recently, The_Templar began streaming on twitchtv as a random player. He quickly drew the attention of about 2 people as he climbed up the ranks of ladder from gold to platinum using "formidable, macro-based builds" such as carrier rushes and 1 base proxy BC. At some point, his stream was discussed on TL as showcasing one of the next NA titans due to his innovative play and ability to win in unusual situations. I don't know if this classification of 'titan' is exactly correct when referring to actually playing the game, but he did place #2 in Darkhoarse's recent LR power rank.

All of this attracted the attention of the fair and beautiful part-time LR'er GumBa. GumBa recently placed 6th on the same LR power rank due to his undying devotion to The Machine. However, he was secretly jealous of The_Templar's high standings in the LR power rank and popularity among the two people that watched his stream regularly. Indeed, he was unsatisfied, and challenged The_Templar to a friendly duel to the death, a challenge partially disguised as a formation of a LR clan to play sc2 more. The_Templar accepted, feeling secure behind his builds, and they agreed to play after The_Templar finished playing in his tournament.

Since LR skill is inversely proportional to SC2 ability, GumBa was definitely favored in this match. However, The_Templar had a wide variety of cheeses and all-ins to select that nobody would even consider due to how bad they were.

After losing 0-2 in the first round of the tournament and getting eliminated before anyone else (mothership rush fail + 10pool speedling fail), The_Templar started trash talking GumBa, who was named ProdiGY on Battlenet for some reason. I don't have a record of what the exact conversation was due to the internet exploding shortly afterwards (totally unreliable sources say that this conversation was the cause), but I do know that it went approximately like this:

TheTemplar: Are we playing?
ProdiGY: Yes
ProdiGY: Brb
TheTemplar: We are playing a boX, what is X?
ProdiGY: back
ProdiGY: I dunno
TheTemplar: How about a BO53?
ProdiGY: Sure
TheTemplar: I'd like to do it all in one sitting though
TheTemplar: Actually
TheTemplar: How about a best of 7?
ProdiGY: ok
TheTemplar: I'll pick first
TheTemplar: We'll do the ladder map pool
ProdiGY: loser picks?
TheTemplar: yeah

The_Templar then proceeded to pick Polar Night since he forgot to mention which season he was talking about. However, the epic clash of the two titans had begun.

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And so it begins.


Please note that in each of these games, both players picked random, and the race was truthfully announced at the start of the game. In this game, The_Templar was terran and GumBa was zerg.
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The two players were very friendly, almost too friendly. In fact, The_Templar tried to reveal that he was GumBa's mother, a statement which made no sense. He attempted to confuse the issue by giving lichter a shoutout (Shoutout to lichter by the way), but GumBa had none of that and interrogated The_Templar on the state of the map pool, calling him 'literally worse than MLG'. This is the most serious insult possible and GumBa is giving a formal apology for it soon™.

As the game progressed, The_Templar threw a wrench in things by NOT battlecruiser rushing, even though he had gone 10-1 in ladder in TvZ with it only a few weeks ago, losing just to proxy swarm hosts on Overgrowth.

In fact, The_Templar was so confident, he announced he wasn't BC rushing. Admittedly this is at the point that GumBa can see an expansion and no gas in the main.

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The cheesiest thing a cheesy player can do is play totally normally.


GumBa went for the newly formed strategy known as the "+burrow slow zergling timing" by researching burrow before zergling speed.

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The direct counter to the Sensor Tower rush, in fact.


The_Templar, however, was not going for a sensor tower rush. He watched the VODs of himself playing in the LRSL and found his games against Chipmunklord17. In game 2, The_Templar had done a mass marine all-in off of two bases but had horribly misplayed it and lost after forgetting to make reinforcement units.

The build in question is somewhat difficult to identify, as it hides under a sheer number of barracks.

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Also note that Combat Shields and Stim finish at the same time. This is to allow an adapted timing if the opponent is playing extremely greedy. It was totally intentional.


As there are only about 6 marines available before the production of 10 barracks, 8 with reactors, kicks in, at least 3-4 bunkers are needed in case the zerg does an all-in.

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Meanwhile GumBa is about to take a 4th base and is starting +1/1.


The_Templar's strategy is revealed to an enemy spy. However, it is unclear as to whether the build is mass marines or mass reapers.

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I'll give you two guesses. The production tab might help.


The first move-out was extremely successful.

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For the zerg.


Upon realizing that creep was already halfway across the map, The_Templar suddenly saw the face of his greatest nemesis behind the veil of an alternate ID.

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GumBa is suddenly revealed as Acer.Scarlett, and The_Templar is revealed as someone that actually knows how to split marines. The cursor blocks out the word hater. Censorship!!


The_Templar praised himself for his amazing marine split in the last battle, right as he was moving out again.

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Since The_Templar was probably not going to be playing a lot of TvZ in this series, he decided it would be a good idea to practice his marine splits anyway.

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This gets exponentially harder when baneling speed finishes.


Here, The_Templar tries to sneak around the other side with 6 marines, but he is caught by units that were at the same location they had been for the last 5 minutes.

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At this point, The_Templar's strategy and very odd map choice became shockingly clear. He intended to keep GumBa occupied on one of the main lanes while pushing the other one. (In fact, he had a similar thing planned for every matchup except ZvZ) However, GumBa's early 4th base and creep spread allowed him to easily keep up.

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…And eventually The_Templar was forced back to his natural.

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"Where were these marine splits when I needed them?"


The_Templar did not like to give up, and prepared himself for a long fight over his natural as soon as he retreated.

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However, he suddenly realized GumBa was on 5 bases and bowed out.

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And this marked one of the few times that scanning instantly lost terran the game.


While The_Templar has a wide variety of cheeses and all-ins to choose from, many of them require a higher level of play to execute, such as this one. GumBa showed extremely strong macro play in this game, suggesting that The_Templar might need to go for an earlier all-in than this one to win.

To be continued...


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This was the shortest game in the series by at least 5 minutes, and was far less interesting/exciting than most of the other games. Don't worry...


Replay: http://www.ggtracker.com/matches/5427979

Game 2

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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
September 14 2014 03:35 GMT
#2
That production tab rofl.

I feel like moar marines might have been beneficial in this situation. Maybe you should try building some of those sometime.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 14 2014 03:36 GMT
#3
On September 14 2014 12:35 Epishade wrote:
That production tab rofl.

I feel like moar marines might have been beneficial in this situation. Maybe you should try building some of those sometime.

You are absolutely right. One of my barracks had no add-on on it. If I had another reactor, I would have made a whopping 18 marines at a time instead of 17, which might have made a difference.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 14 2014 04:20 GMT
#4
I could tell that Gumba was really hitting his injects like a pro this game. That's some serious KR GM zerg macro
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45435 Posts
September 14 2014 04:38 GMT
#5
Map pool was "literally worse than MLG" rofl.

Surprised no BC rush. By telling him you weren't going fast battlecruisers, you basically gave him all the intel he needed!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 14 2014 05:10 GMT
#6
Lol this is pretty great.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45435 Posts
September 14 2014 05:17 GMT
#7
Are you both platinum?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 14 2014 06:34 GMT
#8
I played literally the worst sc2 of my life this series, and I am thankful for that lol i had so much fun xD
The_Templar you are a worthy opponent!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45435 Posts
September 14 2014 06:41 GMT
#9
On September 14 2014 15:34 GumBa wrote:
I played literally the worst sc2 of my life this series, and I am thankful for that lol i had so much fun xD
The_Templar you are a worthy opponent!


Backhanded compliment alert :D
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 14 2014 06:44 GMT
#10
On September 14 2014 15:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On September 14 2014 15:34 GumBa wrote:
I played literally the worst sc2 of my life this series, and I am thankful for that lol i had so much fun xD
The_Templar you are a worthy opponent!


Backhanded compliment alert :D

Shhhh the trashtalk must live on
And to answer your question I am usually a Diamond Terran but havent played in weeks due to time constraints TT
Also I accep any and all challengers!
And I played a sweet bo9 practice match vs Yorkie after this :D
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45435 Posts
September 14 2014 06:47 GMT
#11
On September 14 2014 15:44 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 15:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 14 2014 15:34 GumBa wrote:
I played literally the worst sc2 of my life this series, and I am thankful for that lol i had so much fun xD
The_Templar you are a worthy opponent!


Backhanded compliment alert :D

Shhhh the trashtalk must live on
And to answer your question I am usually a Diamond Terran but havent played in weeks due to time constraints TT
Also I accep any and all challengers!
And I played a sweet bo9 practice match vs Yorkie after this :D


Cool :D Maybe one day, after I've somehow found time to start playing again, I can join you and whoever else in these matches ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 14 2014 06:58 GMT
#12
I just decided that templar is gonna cast the matches if he doesnt play himself.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
kimjung_theillest
Profile Joined September 2014
Korea (North)9 Posts
September 14 2014 08:11 GMT
#13
if you had used nukes you could have won ez,

Hail your glorious leader
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 10:08:51
September 14 2014 09:18 GMT
#14
You'd have won this game if you had train with me beforehand! Maybe
ForGG. 29/11/2014
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 13:41:41
September 14 2014 13:28 GMT
#15
On September 14 2014 15:44 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 15:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 14 2014 15:34 GumBa wrote:
I played literally the worst sc2 of my life this series, and I am thankful for that lol i had so much fun xD
The_Templar you are a worthy opponent!


Backhanded compliment alert :D

Shhhh the trashtalk must live on
And to answer your question I am usually a Diamond Terran but havent played in weeks due to time constraints TT
Also I accep any and all challengers!
And I played a sweet bo9 practice match vs Yorkie after this :D

Who won you vs Yorkie?

On September 14 2014 13:20 Shellshock wrote:
I could tell that Gumba was really hitting his injects like a pro this game. That's some serious KR GM zerg macro

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Also,
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On September 14 2014 17:11 kimjung_theillest wrote:
if you had used nukes you could have won ez,


Maybe I do use nukes It's a BO7.
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
September 14 2014 13:44 GMT
#16
I could tell Templar was going to lose when he chose not to go proxy BC near the watchtower (and tell his opponent)
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 14 2014 13:48 GMT
#17
On September 14 2014 22:44 jakethesnake wrote:
I could tell Templar was going to lose when he chose not to go proxy BC near the watchtower (and tell his opponent)

Proxy BC is pretty good, it almost single-handedly got me into platinum
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 14 2014 14:32 GMT
#18
On September 14 2014 15:34 GumBa wrote:
I played literally the worst sc2 of my life this series, and I am thankful for that lol i had so much fun xD
The_Templar you are a worthy opponent!

You played much better against me :/
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 14 2014 14:34 GMT
#19
[B]On September 14 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:

Who won you vs Yorkie?


GumBa beat me 5-1. He's much better at standard TvZ than I am TT
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 14:39:17
September 14 2014 14:38 GMT
#20
On September 14 2014 23:34 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On September 14 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:

Who won you vs Yorkie?


GumBa beat me 5-1. He's much better at standard TvZ than I am TT

I'm disappointed that it wasn't RvR.

Also, I played some of the best sc2 of my life in game 3. That game was really sick.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 14:51:34
September 14 2014 14:51 GMT
#21
On September 14 2014 23:38 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 23:34 Yorkie wrote:
[B]On September 14 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:

Who won you vs Yorkie?


GumBa beat me 5-1. He's much better at standard TvZ than I am TT

I'm disappointed that it wasn't RvR.

Also, I played some of the best sc2 of my life in game 3. That game was really sick.

I am the king of RvR (:<
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 14 2014 15:05 GMT
#22
On September 14 2014 23:51 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 23:38 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:34 Yorkie wrote:
[B]On September 14 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:

Who won you vs Yorkie?


GumBa beat me 5-1. He's much better at standard TvZ than I am TT

I'm disappointed that it wasn't RvR.

Also, I played some of the best sc2 of my life in game 3. That game was really sick.

I am the king of RvR (:<

Please. I would rek you ^^
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 14 2014 15:11 GMT
#23
On September 15 2014 00:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 23:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:38 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:34 Yorkie wrote:
[B]On September 14 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:

Who won you vs Yorkie?


GumBa beat me 5-1. He's much better at standard TvZ than I am TT

I'm disappointed that it wasn't RvR.

Also, I played some of the best sc2 of my life in game 3. That game was really sick.

I am the king of RvR (:<

Please. I would rek you ^^

Did you forget the FFA already?
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 14 2014 15:11 GMT
#24
On September 15 2014 00:11 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:05 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:38 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:34 Yorkie wrote:
[B]On September 14 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:

Who won you vs Yorkie?


GumBa beat me 5-1. He's much better at standard TvZ than I am TT

I'm disappointed that it wasn't RvR.

Also, I played some of the best sc2 of my life in game 3. That game was really sick.

I am the king of RvR (:<

Please. I would rek you ^^

Did you forget the FFA already?

You mean the one where I kept getting economically damaged by other players while you built up unopposed? Yup. :D
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TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 14 2014 15:35 GMT
#25
Continuation of the series:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/467008-clash-of-lr-titans-the_templar-vs-gumba-game-2
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TL+ Member
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 14 2014 15:36 GMT
#26
On September 15 2014 00:11 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:11 Yorkie wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:05 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:38 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:34 Yorkie wrote:
[B]On September 14 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:

Who won you vs Yorkie?


GumBa beat me 5-1. He's much better at standard TvZ than I am TT

I'm disappointed that it wasn't RvR.

Also, I played some of the best sc2 of my life in game 3. That game was really sick.

I am the king of RvR (:<

Please. I would rek you ^^

Did you forget the FFA already?

You mean the one where I kept getting economically damaged by other players while you built up unopposed? Yup. :D

"Unopposed" lol I got early pooled into nuke rushed
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 14 2014 15:38 GMT
#27
On September 15 2014 00:36 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:11 The_Templar wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:11 Yorkie wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:05 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:38 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:34 Yorkie wrote:
[B]On September 14 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:

Who won you vs Yorkie?


GumBa beat me 5-1. He's much better at standard TvZ than I am TT

I'm disappointed that it wasn't RvR.

Also, I played some of the best sc2 of my life in game 3. That game was really sick.

I am the king of RvR (:<

Please. I would rek you ^^

Did you forget the FFA already?

You mean the one where I kept getting economically damaged by other players while you built up unopposed? Yup. :D

"Unopposed" lol I got early pooled into nuke rushed

Yeah but after that you had an easy time.
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TL+ Member
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 14 2014 16:17 GMT
#28
On September 15 2014 00:38 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:36 Yorkie wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:11 The_Templar wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:11 Yorkie wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:05 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:38 The_Templar wrote:
On September 14 2014 23:34 Yorkie wrote:
[B]On September 14 2014 22:28 The_Templar wrote:

Who won you vs Yorkie?


GumBa beat me 5-1. He's much better at standard TvZ than I am TT

I'm disappointed that it wasn't RvR.

Also, I played some of the best sc2 of my life in game 3. That game was really sick.

I am the king of RvR (:<

Please. I would rek you ^^

Did you forget the FFA already?

You mean the one where I kept getting economically damaged by other players while you built up unopposed? Yup. :D

"Unopposed" lol I got early pooled into nuke rushed

Yeah but after that you had an easy time.

Yeah cuz after that I killed the nuke guy and crippled Darkhorse while you and Lorning had a little 1v1
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 14 2014 20:17 GMT
#29
We can RvR Yorkie! :D
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 14 2014 21:34 GMT
#30
On September 15 2014 05:17 GumBa wrote:
We can RvR Yorkie! :D

Let me know if this is happening
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TL+ Member
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#31
I'm down to play more practice games later tonight
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 15 2014 04:25 GMT
#32
I can most likely play this coming saturday again. If I get on somehow during the week I'll hit you up for practice games but our RvR showmatch will have to be on the weekend. Casted by The_TemplarTv I hope
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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