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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-18 07:30:55
August 18 2014 07:30 GMT
#61
On August 18 2014 15:00 Joedaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 12:22 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On August 18 2014 04:39 Kommatiazo wrote:
TvP you should try messing with Dayshi's mass hellion, it's truly a hilarious one to pull off. Killing a P deathball with only hellions is so outrageous.

You should play in the next Olimoleague or something. Any chance to see a casted Jinro game again... the nostalgia. I'm glad you're enjoying yourself, it's really really good to hear such positive things from someone we miss so much in the community.

glhf Jinro!

If you have a vod or replay link I'll check it out, sounds fun!

Yeah, I'll probably play in the Olimo stuff eventually. They are on Sundays right? That's my only completely free day.

On August 18 2014 03:39 Grettin wrote:
Cool read! Are you fluent in Korean already? Wish we'd be able to read about your poker adventures, but if it's too private, i completely understand.

Keep on kicking ass! Thanks for the blog.

I'm not fluent at all, but I'm getting better. The MMA training is my primary learning place since only the headcoach speaks english... I've actually improved my Korean a ton from this haha

The poker stuff would be boring unless I posted a bunch of graphs, and then I'm basically posting my exact income etc and it feels too personal hehe


Would you recommend going pro with poker to a close friend/loved one? If so, what are the top 2-3 pieces of advice you'd give?

Probably not, the games are tough nowadays and he'd have to put in a lot of work to get started. There's some people I'd recommend it to, but it'd have to be a pretty specific personality...

On August 18 2014 13:12 klipik12 wrote:
So wait, you've been living in Korea for 4 years? :o

Almost to the day.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Deleted User 315717
Profile Joined August 2013
7 Posts
August 18 2014 07:41 GMT
#62
Not that I dislike the spreadsheets (I used to do the same thing for UT2k4), but have you considered uploading your replays to ggtracker (or providing us with a link if you already do)? The statistics it shows can be really fun to interpret and can help better understand the macro aspect of the game.
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
August 18 2014 08:06 GMT
#63
LOL i thought this was an article about the players MMA and life
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
August 18 2014 08:09 GMT
#64
Really fun read!! In the title I tought you had stories about Acer.MMA and Startale.Life lol...
Life | Ryung | Mvp | MarineKing | Jaedong | Bisu | HerO
sCnInfinity
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany82 Posts
August 18 2014 08:41 GMT
#65
Really great read! It's nice to see you doing well and seeing you at some online tournament would be incredibly nice
Long live the King Of Wings
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-18 10:15:11
August 18 2014 10:07 GMT
#66
So your coach wanted you to cut a little bit over 10 kg (about 25 pounds) before every fight even though you're still gaining weight? That sounds like absolute hell to be honest. I agree with you that it's better to aim for lightweight right now. GL in your upcoming bout man, I really enjoyed following your SC2 career.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 18 2014 10:36 GMT
#67
It's nice hearing from you!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
August 18 2014 10:36 GMT
#68
any reason why you've hungered to play SC2 instead of BW? you should play some games on fish server (korean ladder) for kicks.
or we can just play RvR any hour any day of the week.
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-18 11:51:44
August 18 2014 10:50 GMT
#69
Dayshi hellion build, here vs Grubby (go 20:30 for the weird engagement!) :



I have a poker related question! Obv feel free not to answer if you don't want to, but it's not related to money etc so I figured it would be ok.

As someone who has played a lot of Starcraft, don't you find poker a bit slow? I've played poker on and off for ~5 years on Svenska Spel, not making insane amount of money but a nice extra cash.

I've been having troubles focusing for longer periods of time. I don't think it's because I don't have the endurance (I can easily ladder for 4 hours+, time just flies away!), but rather that it's not action packed enough.

Have you experienced the same issues, and do you have any tips to solve it? It's annoying, since either I quit playing after a short session or I start doing stuff meanwhile (watch SC2/movies, check TL/reddit, hell even play Hearthstone) which obv hurts my game.

Loved the blog, a very nice read! Cheers!

edit: Oh an additional question! Do you have a set schedule for poker? How many hours/day do you play on average?

Sorry for the poker questions, but I think it's cool to hear thoughts from someone who's been addicted to Starcraft as well
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
BernabusStarcraft2
Profile Joined September 2012
Scotland112 Posts
August 18 2014 10:50 GMT
#70
glhf
Bling. MC. DeMusliM. EG.
Florix
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany116 Posts
August 18 2014 11:07 GMT
#71
great blog.

whats your job right now? poker?
7P inc.
rage13th
Profile Joined December 2011
Brunei Darussalam6 Posts
August 18 2014 11:09 GMT
#72
wow Jinro playing sc2 again? I would definitely watch you stream.
MeTStonedead
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden8 Posts
August 18 2014 11:30 GMT
#73
Yay my favourite is back tinkering with SC2 :D Would love a stream!
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
August 18 2014 11:33 GMT
#74
More about poker plz. How many hours a week does that take up?
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
August 18 2014 12:37 GMT
#75
Thanks for the Blog, really enjoyed the read.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
sperY
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Serbia444 Posts
August 18 2014 13:22 GMT
#76
Cool blog. Always a good read.

Very interesting stuff about being on a professional team. Was this your original intent, or it just happened over time? Do you see yourself doing pro fights regularly?

Don't take too long for next one!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 18 2014 13:26 GMT
#77
On August 18 2014 19:07 gullberg wrote:
So your coach wanted you to cut a little bit over 10 kg (about 25 pounds) before every fight even though you're still gaining weight? That sounds like absolute hell to be honest. I agree with you that it's better to aim for lightweight right now. GL in your upcoming bout man, I really enjoyed following your SC2 career.

No just he said that should be my pro-weight, amateur weighins are the same day so they are different than pro.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Furlisht
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium177 Posts
August 18 2014 13:49 GMT
#78
Hi Jinro,

That was a really nice reading, I'd sure like to read more of your SC stories!

Could you tell us what your day-to-day schedule looks like? And without entering into personal stuff, could you elaborate on the poker part, like your background, how much time you put on playing and learning. Also, how do you cope with the slow pace of a poker game compared to a game of starcraft?

Thanks!
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 18 2014 13:55 GMT
#79
Nice to see you're doing well!
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-18 16:12:41
August 18 2014 14:00 GMT
#80
On August 18 2014 19:50 DJHelium wrote:
Dayshi hellion build, here vs Grubby (go 20:30 for the weird engagement!) :

http://youtu.be/Bo_tCNU77vE?t=11m34s

I have a poker related question! Obv feel free not to answer if you don't want to, but it's not related to money etc so I figured it would be ok.

As someone who has played a lot of Starcraft, don't you find poker a bit slow? I've played poker on and off for ~5 years on Svenska Spel, not making insane amount of money but a nice extra cash.

I've been having troubles focusing for longer periods of time. I don't think it's because I don't have the endurance (I can easily ladder for 4 hours+, time just flies away!), but rather that it's not action packed enough.

Have you experienced the same issues, and do you have any tips to solve it? It's annoying, since either I quit playing after a short session or I start doing stuff meanwhile (watch SC2/movies, check TL/reddit, hell even play Hearthstone) which obv hurts my game.

Loved the blog, a very nice read! Cheers!

edit: Oh an additional question! Do you have a set schedule for poker? How many hours/day do you play on average?

Sorry for the poker questions, but I think it's cool to hear thoughts from someone who's been addicted to Starcraft as well

Huh, interesting. Anyone else been using it since or has it been a one time thing? It looked solid, but mech can in my experience look really solid when the opponent doesn't realize you're meching until very late.

As for poker being slow, not really... I 4 table Zoom on stars, thats' about 700 hands an hour. I've tried 6 tabling zoom and my brain is sort of fried after an hour of that.

Also, I don't play that long sessions usually... I try to do about 2k hands a day, sometimes less sometimes way more. That's why I like zoom, since there's no 'start up time' so to speak, you can just jump in and play.

I play between 30-60k hands a month depending on what else is going on in my life at the time.

On August 18 2014 22:49 Furlisht wrote:
Hi Jinro,

That was a really nice reading, I'd sure like to read more of your SC stories!

Could you tell us what your day-to-day schedule looks like? And without entering into personal stuff, could you elaborate on the poker part, like your background, how much time you put on playing and learning. Also, how do you cope with the slow pace of a poker game compared to a game of starcraft?

Thanks!

My day is something like this:
Wake up between 9~11, eat breakfast and chill, play some poker, make dinner, then either play some more poker or head straight to gym (this is usually around 6:30 pm). 3x a week I'll lift weights, then do 2 classes of MMA (on the days I don't lift I might do 3x classes or do some kettlebell work instead) and get home around 10-11 pm, at which point I eat, and maybe play some SC2 or watch a movie or w-ever then sleep and repeat.

I haven't been studying a ton lately, but it usually consists of reading (The Intelligent Poker Player is a book I really liked, it really gets you thinking about new concepts, http://www.cardquant.com has really great articles), watching videos (runitonce.com for PLO), and when I'm feeling particularly motivated, math based breakdowns (I have absolutely no math background prior to poker, so I had to learn a lot of stuff from scratch).

I don't feel like posting my entire worksheet for poker, but here's a screenshot of part of it:
[image loading]
To the very right you can see the edges of a cold 4bet ev calc I spent like 4-5 hours working on last friday... not finished yet tho.

Played poker between 2007-2009~10, then resumed in 2012 after I quit SC2. I play exclusively PLO. Poker has a big early study requirement, and if you want to really move up I think you need to keep studying, but for now I'm pretty happy at the stakes I'm at.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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