Basically i will try to write down my perhaps final thoughts about starcraft 2,
I realise now after reading alot of the comments that my random tweets who i thought were harmless actually just sound bitter and negative ( which they obviously were ) but i didnt really think it through as deep as you guys did. I am still the guy who loved / loves starcraft more than anyone else considering the amount of time and effort i put into the game . For starters i know that i have alot of haters and i dont really care about that , i am not gonna be a little girl and make an AMA to make you people on the internet like me. But i just want to write my opinions once so i dont have to see people speculating anymore .
I will probably not come back to sc2 even at legacy of the void because i feel like the best way to compete in sc2 is to train in korea and i have no passion to go there again as it was extremly mentally draining and the only reason i could endure it was because i had Sase and Snute to talk to on the later trips. Also swarmhosts made the game so incredibly boring in my opinion.... but yeah im sure you already know my opinion on that already so no need to go there.
Iem katowice.
How this event was handled by me was probably one of my biggest dissapointments.
Let me make it clear that i had no intention of going to this event at ALL, I only went because my team forced me to go.
I hadnt played a single game of starcraft one - two months prior to this event because i felt absolutely zero love for the game at this point unfortunately and im not the kind of guy who can force myself when i lose passion for something. because starcraft to me is not a job, it never was a job. its always been my life and something i loved so much. During my peaks in the game i played around 12-16 hours every day and when i slept i thought about strategys so its not really like i can force myself to do this as im sure you can understand its not an easy feat.
If i had the chance to do it all again, I would definitly rather take a fine from EG / ALLIANCE than go through with what actually happened again. I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more , because they did not since i qualified through it fair and square. if they were better than me then they wouldve qualified but because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching, and most importantly im sure you all know i took a great amount of pride being a player and i want to live up to my own expectations.
I always liked your play and I think that's the most important thing. I might've stolen a PvZ build here and there from you if that's ok ;D I'm glad you decided to write out some thoughts. I think I'm in the minority because I lot of people tend to write bad things about you? But I always liked you mainly for your play.
Gl with whatever you do NaNi, it's been a pleasure watching you play. I will be one of the people there to support you if you come back or choose to play another game. !
I truly hope that there is a 0.01% chance that you come back for LotV and that it happens. Because no other player has ever brought me the amount of excitement like you did... (I nearly cried of excitement during the voidray game vs Life at IEM New York.) But I will not bother you with my hopes of you making a comeback.
I just wanna tell you that you have been a huge inspiration for me and I will allways love everything you've done for the game.
Quick question: Since you're probably not going to play the game anymore professionally, what are your plans for the future?
sucks to hear you probably won't come back in legacy, was really looking forward to that being a possibility I hope you'll come back to your fan page every now and again though <3
Don't quit~ seeing Naniwa in SC2 related content is always a "plus." You know, like Tiesto on a set list to other DJs,a certain token of excitement and dependability follows the name and gamer for me. Perhaps starcraft and blizzard rts really are losing their appeal though, and we cannot force it.
It is sad you're choosing to walk away entirely, and that unfortunately your career will be remembered by most more for the drama than all of your accomplishments. Your play has always been entertaining, and will surely be missed when LOTV rolls around. Hope you reconsider somewhere down the line, but thanks for all the fantastic games and memories.
On July 18 2014 02:24 StarGalaxy wrote: "I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more"
You focus too much on the haters. You aren't realizing how many truly passionate fans you had both inside and outside of Sweden. I cheered for you in every event and that wouldn't stop if you decided to come back. Hope LOTV is good enough to compel you to come back.
On July 18 2014 02:24 StarGalaxy wrote: "I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more"
but for what are you sorry?
The way he handled the situation? ...
that's not a reason. to clarify i am wondering why/ for what reason he is feeling sorry since he only explains why he is not sorry.
Thanks Naniwa for explaining. I will miss cheering for you!
On July 18 2014 02:24 StarGalaxy wrote: "I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more"
but for what are you sorry?
I think he's sorry for going and not being prepared, and not giving a good effort against his opponents.
You are/were my favourite pro gamer (Any E-sport). I am very impressed by how honest you are and grateful to you for representing (the world - Korea) so well in SC2.
You were the only person out of all of us non Koreans to actually compete with them on an equal level for much of the time you were dominant. So as a (European) fan you gave me more cause to be proud than anyone else.
For many of the tournaments I watched you were the sole person keeping me interested enough in the tournament to watch it through the latter stages when the other foreigners were eliminated.
Even after these tournaments were over I still looked forward to interviews with you being released since in them you were usually honest, blunt and entertaining.
Honestly it was usually refreshing to watch and read about what you did. I hope LOTV helps to rekindle your passion Meaty Owl Legs =D
Was a fan of you since the first time I saw you in the early days of sc2, and ill keep on being a fan till the very end, one of the things I like about you, is probly what everyone else hate you for, the way you are and act. I find it closet to real people who I meet in real life then on the internet, instead of the "lets everyone love each other"
Gl in what ever you do nani! should you ever come Copenhagen I would gladly buy you a beer or 2 !
On July 18 2014 02:24 StarGalaxy wrote: "I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more"
but for what are you sorry?
The way he handled the situation? ...
that's not a reason. to clarify i am wondering why/ for what reason he is feeling sorry since he only explains why he is not sorry.
Why the fuck did you cut away the part where he actually gave the reason then?
...because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching, and most importantly im sure you all know i took a great amount of pride being a player and i want to live up to my own expectations.
He's sorry for not doing that by doing what he did.
On July 18 2014 02:24 StarGalaxy wrote: "I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more"
but for what are you sorry?
It is a little poorly punctuated, but I think he means that he is sorry about this:
but because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching, and most importantly im sure you all know i took a great amount of pride being a player and i want to live up to my own expectations.
On July 18 2014 02:24 StarGalaxy wrote: "I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more"
but for what are you sorry?
Himself. I can't believe people are posting about how they wish he'll come back.
On July 18 2014 01:58 Naniwa wrote: I will probably not come back to sc2 even at legacy of the void
(I will still believe you may return tho)
because starcraft to me is not a job, it never was a job. its always been my life and something i loved so much. During my peaks in the game i played around 12-16 hours every day and when i slept i thought about strategys so its not really like i can force myself to do this as im sure you can understand its not an easy feat.
i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching, and most importantly im sure you all know i took a great amount of pride being a player and i want to live up to my own expectations.
What Starcraft is for you and the way you see yourself as a player are the things that made a fan of you Nani (and the fact that you have the skills to bakc it up ofc).
Thanks for sharing your thoughts but please stay close to the scene! Keep those tweets coming
At least try maybe LotV expansion if you really did like SC2, would be sad to see you just straight up stop something you were good at and like.
I understand the Korea point though, your 100% right, the best players are there and if you can't speak the language it must be a lonely place
Oh well, if this is the end, thanks for the good series and the ability to show your personality unlike some players who we have no idea if they have one!
tbh this blog was totally unnecessary for you to do for anyone BUT yourself, you're a player just like anyone else in the world and you brought what you had to the table, the game and the community
I'll miss you, never have I cheered harder for a player, never have I been amazed more by amazing micro (IEM, MLG,...) My god Naniwa! Goodluck in life, we'll miss you
because starcraft to me is not a job, it never was a job.
Did you not sign a professional contract with a team, making it a job? If it wasn't a job to you, surely you shouldn't of signed the contract - and should of just told them it was 'your life' instead? And then not accepted payment from them, and not had to do as they said, during your contracted employed duration?
Still sounds like you simply don't care about contracts and/or agreements, and you just selfishly did whatever you wanted, completely ignoring your obligation to the team who had, presumably, paid you money for your job?
If you are adamant about leaving, good luck to you in the future. Hopefully something can spark your passion again for Starcraft. You were one of the greats, and you're dedication and work ethic can get you far in anything you do.
I really hope to see you back later. Your runs in the GSL was what dragged me into watching this game day in and day out. I've always appreciated your attitude; it shines through in game and in interviews etc. Best of luck, Nani!
because starcraft to me is not a job, it never was a job.
Did you not sign a professional contract with a team, making it a job? If it wasn't a job to you, surely you shouldn't of signed the contract - and should of just told them it was 'your life' instead? And then not accepted payment from them, and not had to do as they said, during your contracted employed duration?
Still sounds like you simply don't care about contracts and/or agreements, and you just selfishly did whatever you wanted, completely ignoring your obligation to the team who had, presumably, paid you money for your job?
You don't get it, do you. But that's ok. No hard feelings.
because starcraft to me is not a job, it never was a job.
Did you not sign a professional contract with a team, making it a job? If it wasn't a job to you, surely you shouldn't of signed the contract - and should of just told them it was 'your life' instead? And then not accepted payment from them, and not had to do as they said, during your contracted employed duration?
Still sounds like you simply don't care about contracts and/or agreements, and you just selfishly did whatever you wanted, completely ignoring your obligation to the team who had, presumably, paid you money for your job?
I think he meant that he never saw it as a job, more as a hobby that he got paid for. I also think you are just trying to make negativity out of nothing.
Good luck in whatever happens next in your life. I liked you because you were a good player. I don't care about the other drama things that happened with you.
Anyways, hope to see you doing something you love.
On July 18 2014 06:19 Geschan wrote: It's actually quite disappointing that you still don't see the error of you handling the IEM Situation.
I'm pretty sure this classifies as him "seeing the error" of how he handled it, maybe it doesn't go into too much detail, but he claims responsibility, expresses remorse and apologizes to his fans.
On July 18 2014 01:58 Naniwa wrote:
If i had the chance to do it all again, I would definitly rather take a fine from EG / ALLIANCE than go through with what actually happened again. I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more , because they did not since i qualified through it fair and square. if they were better than me then they wouldve qualified but because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching, and most importantly im sure you all know i took a great amount of pride being a player and i want to live up to my own expectations.
On July 18 2014 02:12 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: I feel the same way Naniwa. Who want to play against a free infinite unit. It completely ruined SC for me as well.
You can add me to the list too.
I'm hoping there are major changes to LOTV. The MSC as we know, the Widow Mine and the Swarm Host need to be re-worked considerably.
I can kind of understand how you feel, Naniwa. You want to be the best, no matter what it takes, not just "the best foreigner". And to do that requires a huge number of sacrifices, like playing 12-16 hours (all or at least most of the top Koreans practice this much) and it probably does require playing in Korea. That last thing is incredibly hard to do if you're not Korean and don't know the language and the culture. I've seen people recommend that foreigners learn the language, but how easy is that to do if you're practicing 12-16 hours a day?
But maybe there's hope. Maybe if enough Koreans come to live in Europe it will improve the ladder enough that being the best no longer requires living in Korea. Maybe Swarmhosts will disappear in Legacy of the Void.
Maybe you'll come back. I hope so. You were pretty awesome to watch.
There's people that will keep supporting you for the player that you were/are. I don't/didn't like you as an 'entertainer' (which seems to be the go-to field in eSports at these times), I love you as a sportsman.
I think this should clear up the remaining "hate" about Naniwa. At first I was very negative about his actions but time cured most of the disappointment. It was very similar to reactions to Idra right after his retirement. Now just like Idra, I think Sc2 community should accept his "feelings" (more appropriate than apology) and move on from the incident.
You still show no respect for your team, sponsers, event organisers, fans or just sportsmanship. I hope to never see another player show this level of disrespect in esports or any competition again.
Someone proxy 2 gated me on ladder yesterday. I was a little angry at first, then i remembered all the incredible naniwa proxy 2gates and was actually happy. You were not only the best foreigner and one of the best players, but one of the most entertaining players to have ever played this game. Hoping youll come back anyway. You were my favourite player, not at first but you earned it with your play.
I really do hope you will come back some time. Maybe you just need to give it some more time and maybe there will be changes to the game that will make you feel the urge to come back to the sc2 scene to compete again. Hope you have fun and success in life whatever happens <3
I too hope that you will come back someday, you were always the best foreigner and kept everyone entertained with new builds that would instantly shift the metagame as every one rushed to perfect your new style. Good luck with whatever happens
You don't get it, do you. But that's ok. No hard feelings.
No, I think I do get it - Naniwa decided unilaterally that he just didn't want to stand up to his part of the contractual agreement he entered, and just took a giant poop on his employers, the community, and his fellow pro's - mainly as a selfish show of defiance.
I've issued plenty of contracts to staff in the past, and I've never seen such a blatant misunderstanding of the concept of professionalism as this.
Naniwa even said it - he didn't see it as a job. To him it was more like a glorified hobby.
I wonder if his employers saw it not as a job offer, or themselves as business operators? I wonder if his employers actually realised they were indulging a child in his hobby, and yet, at the same time, paying him?
You don't get it, do you. But that's ok. No hard feelings.
No, I think I do get it - Naniwa decided unilaterally that he just didn't want to stand up to his part of the contractual agreement he entered, and just took a giant poop on his employers, the community, and his fellow pro's - mainly as a selfish show of defiance.
I've issued plenty of contracts to staff in the past, and I've never seen such a blatant misunderstanding of the concept of professionalism as this.
Naniwa even said it - he didn't see it as a job. To him it was more like a glorified hobby.
I wonder if his employers saw it not as a job offer, or themselves as business operators? I wonder if his employers actually realised they were indulging a child in his hobby, and yet, at the same time, paying him?
If you don't like Naniwa, don't watch his games or read his posts. Problem solved.
I quit following SC2 about 18 months back but all the Naniwa posts on screddit keep catching my eye.
I don't know what's happened in the last year and a half and I don't really care... Naniwa, you were always one of my favorite players who I always tried to emulate you and huk with my ladder play. You are, and forever will be, awesome.
On July 18 2014 01:58 Naniwa wrote: I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more , because they did not since i qualified through it fair and square. if they were better than me then they wouldve qualified but because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching.
"I am sorry about what happened because I could not show my best game but goddamn if I was going to let another player who was better and more motivated than me play and actually show good games"
On July 18 2014 01:58 Naniwa wrote: I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more , because they did not since i qualified through it fair and square. if they were better than me then they wouldve qualified but because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching.
"I am sorry about what happened because I could not show my best game but goddamn if I was going to let another player who was better and more motivated than me play and actually show good games"
Uh, did you miss the part where someone else would have qualified instead of him if they were actually better? Or did you make your judgment without actually reading?
I hope Starcraft finds its way back into your life with a vengeance some day so you can reign supreme as the king of the foreigners once again. I know that the "best foreigner" title is like a cheap consolation prize to you and that is why you have been my favorite player <3
On July 18 2014 02:24 StarGalaxy wrote: "I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more"
but for what are you sorry?
"because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching, and most importantly im sure you all know i took a great amount of pride being a player and i want to live up to my own expectations."
On July 18 2014 01:58 Naniwa wrote: I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more , because they did not since i qualified through it fair and square. if they were better than me then they wouldve qualified but because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching.
"I am sorry about what happened because I could not show my best game but goddamn if I was going to let another player who was better and more motivated than me play and actually show good games"
Uh, did you miss the part where someone else would have qualified instead of him if they were actually better? Or did you make your judgment without actually reading?
If I did not read it then how did I find and separate the quote that I choose, blind luck?
Regarding the quote itself saying if they were better than him they would have qualified is meaningless considering he said himself that he had not played for 1-2 months before the tournament, it does not matter how good you were months ago when you qualified, he was in no position to play and then dissed other players for not being good enough when anyone else would have done better than he did.
To be honest, the community is better without you. Even if you are better than any other foreigner, your attitude makes it mean nothing. Good to know you haven't changed at all though.
Still the Greatest Toss of all time. You will be missed deeply in the foreigner department. GL Naniwer, maybe you do a different game now? Keep in touch with the peoples, and thanks for writing this.
On July 18 2014 12:44 nixX3n wrote: To be honest, the community is better without you. Even if you are better than any other foreigner, your attitude makes it mean nothing. Good to know you haven't changed at all though.
I'm glad we have 57-post guy to let us know what is good for the community and determine the value of someone's entire legacy.
Cheers Nani! Your passion was always your greatest asset as well as greatest enemy. And haters gonna hate. Hope to see you around one way or the other. GL HF!
This is incredible sad to read.. I remember when I first started to follow the SC2 scene, I jumped on the bandwagon that did not like you immediately - but with time you grew on me, I can 100% relate to the way you behave, and I love it. Our community has lost one of the best entertainers. And I hope with all of my heart that you will return some day.
Come back Naniwa.. In real talk with JP you said once you didn't wanna quit as a loser. Well dont do it then. You made me start playing and kept me playing protoss ! Love you Naniwa, Johan !
you were the only foreign hope as a protoss player, that alone makes u legendary.
come back if u like lotv whenever u feel like it and dont let u influence by ppl who will never like u whatever u do. they will never understand what i means to be dedicated and what it means to ultimately strive for a win and how disappointing a loss vs whomever can be if u are completely passionate about the game (because without that determination u cant be as successful as u were and thus on the other hand will be extremely down or angry after a win and that is TOTALLY normal in my opinion). they dont deserve ur attention as long as u have dedicated fans who understand and support u.
i also like ur attitude to do everything u can to win. fuck those idiotic 'gl hf' - 'lets not attack for the first 15 mins so we can build 20 bases before the first unit' - 'lets be friendly before and after the game because koreans always look friendly and only talk bad behind ur back what is much more respectful'... these attitudes are just hypocritical and ppl who show they emotions will always create diversity because ppl cant handle true emotions. especially those koreans rather live behind their fake image and hide behind it. they are like robots and its pittyful. go ur way and do what u wanna do man. fuck everyone else.
and just start rekkin again in whatever u do next. peace
I really think you should not come back if you don't change your persona. You are way too toxic and disrespectful. Damn, I wanted to punch you in the face when you said Polt won the game because the lack of soundproof, that's such a terrible insult to the most mannered Polt. And the last drama with Kane, wtf with you. SC2 is better without such a toxic person.
On July 18 2014 21:53 Faust852 wrote: I really think you should not come back if you don't change your persona. You are way too toxic and disrespectful. Damn, I wanted to punch you in the face when you said Polt won the game because the lack of soundproof, that's such a terrible insult to the most mannered Polt. And the last drama with Kane, wtf with you. SC2 is better without such a toxic person.
Toxic is such a bullshit word for not being able to articulate why you want him gone. He added a lot to the scene and without players like him the sc2 scene is a lot more boring to follow. You can't say with a straight face sc2 would have been better without him regardless if you like him or not. I'm not saying all he did was for the better but he was an asset to the foreign scene for a long time, asshole or not.
it is undeniable that the game has become (more) boring since the departures of stephano and naniwa, hate or love them, and the game in general is actually meh, and i understand that playing something you dont find funny is difficult, i hope they find something else in life they enjoy to do.
i know i'm so negative , everything i said is imho
On July 18 2014 21:16 satsang wrote: Is it normal that half of the post are from new accounts and each of them begs him to return?
It's not close to half of the posts, wtf are you talking about?
Around 35-40 out of 110 ish posts are from new accounts (sub 100 posts), wishing he'd return.
That's around 30%. I'm not sure I'd be so alarmist and knee jerk reactionary with the 'it's not close to half... wtf are you talking about?' comment, given it's actually fairly close to that.
I hate bad manners and such more than anyone else, but I do miss cheering for Naniwa.
Anyway, I was hoping he'd have more to say that hasn't already been said. Not sure why he keeps making these posts. Everyone has moved on already, and if he's not coming back to SC2 then it's of little consequence.
And therein lies the problem with non Korean pros. Too many view SC2 not as a job but something fun to do. If you want to be on the top and deserve it it's a job.
Many of us work 12+ hours / day in the non gaming world. You want to excel at anything you have to have drive and passion. At times your passion will wane; that is where, as adults, your drive pushes you through till your passion can be rekindled. Hopefully your time away will allow you to grow up and not be such a petulant child.
Its really sad that you are actually almost closing the door to pro starcraft... You have played some many awesome games and tournaments. Its truly a loss to sc2 that you actually are implying there are no future for you. (as for the people who still are angry and upset beyond comprehension because of Katowiche... wow... then I can understand your decision. I forget from time to time that there are so many with a mentality of a small petty child just searching for a reason to hate and dislike... I mean... just watch the chat in avilos stream and behold the absolute bottom of human life and dignity. If these kind of people are around you, we all understand you.)
However, if we decide to ignore the obvious haters/retards you have MANY fans. We wish you ALL well and we hope that you will feel good with what you do in the future. Of course we want you back. But first of all. We want you to feel good.
On July 19 2014 05:37 Marconos wrote: And therein lies the problem with non Korean pros. Too many view SC2 not as a job but something fun to do. If you want to be on the top and deserve it it's a job.
Many of us work 12+ hours / day in the non gaming world. You want to excel at anything you have to have drive and passion. At times your passion will wane; that is where, as adults, your drive pushes you through till your passion can be rekindled. Hopefully your time away will allow you to grow up and not be such a petulant child.
Dick.
I find this sad, apart from Scarlett and Naniwa all of my favourite players are Terrans (I play Terran). I really enjoyed Naniwa's play, the sick forcefields etc, and the drama surrounding him. I too would be happy to see him come back for LotV but it seems it is not to be. Farewell, King of the North.
I always cheered you Nani, if you come back i will still cheer for you.
If you don't want to come back or choose not to I wish you luck in all your future endeavors.
You Naniwa will always be one of those few that could compete with top koreans, in the end it was your will and your training that got you there. Not your trip to korea and if you choose to, I know you could do it again.
You said it yourself, once your passion ignites again you can just make a comeback and go toe to toe with the best of them. Until that day comes, stay well and good luck with everything.
On July 18 2014 21:53 Faust852 wrote: I really think you should not come back if you don't change your persona. You are way too toxic and disrespectful. Damn, I wanted to punch you in the face when you said Polt won the game because the lack of soundproof, that's such a terrible insult to the most mannered Polt. And the last drama with Kane, wtf with you. SC2 is better without such a toxic person.
Toxic is such a bullshit word for not being able to articulate why you want him gone. He added a lot to the scene and without players like him the sc2 scene is a lot more boring to follow. You can't say with a straight face sc2 would have been better without him regardless if you like him or not. I'm not saying all he did was for the better but he was an asset to the foreign scene for a long time, asshole or not.
Toxic is a word that is not really ban-worthy. And what did he really do for the scene ? Ok, he was the best foreigner for a while. But that's irrelevent, he was good at the begining but so was idra, jinro, White-ra or Dimaga. Then Stephano came, and took the title for more than a year, by far. Then Nani did some kind of comeback, but in the meantime Stephano was still the best foreigner, Lucifron was on fire and Scarlet was rising. He did nothing that had a big impact on the scene but being an asshole to others players and fans. I can take idra as an other exemple. Look; noone even talk about him anymore but he was like the biggest symbol of sc2 at his time.
On July 18 2014 21:53 Faust852 wrote: I really think you should not come back if you don't change your persona. You are way too toxic and disrespectful. Damn, I wanted to punch you in the face when you said Polt won the game because the lack of soundproof, that's such a terrible insult to the most mannered Polt. And the last drama with Kane, wtf with you. SC2 is better without such a toxic person.
Toxic is such a bullshit word for not being able to articulate why you want him gone. He added a lot to the scene and without players like him the sc2 scene is a lot more boring to follow. You can't say with a straight face sc2 would have been better without him regardless if you like him or not. I'm not saying all he did was for the better but he was an asset to the foreign scene for a long time, asshole or not.
Totally agree. Just like sports, eSports needs a small number of controversial figures to liven the scene up. People liked to watch Nani, half wishing he would win and half wishing he would lose (disclaimer: 90% of statistics are made up). Hell, I even wanted him to beat some Terrans and I never, ever support a non-Terran against a Terran usually, not even Scarlett.
You've kept the foreigner flag for quite long.. Maybe not vs T or in PvP (although you either lost too badly or you won too easy in that matchup lol, but your PvZ man, that was probably the games I loved the most.. I bet you hated the guts of those though
But yah - your: Life vs Naniwa finals will forever be remembered as one of the best comebacks ever.. And you almost pulled it for the 3rd time too, but Life did a comeback vs your comeback too
Still - think that at least you should maybe "post your thoughts" more thoroughly rather than just "swarmhost makes games boring" lol.. I mean - Blizz could "profit" in depth from players/thinkers like you, rather than just say "reactively" what you didn't like though
GL HF in life Nani, maybe you weren't loved or you didn't even want that, but certainly you were one of those who we admired the most
On July 19 2014 05:37 Marconos wrote: And therein lies the problem with non Korean pros. Too many view SC2 not as a job but something fun to do. If you want to be on the top and deserve it it's a job.
Many of us work 12+ hours / day in the non gaming world. You want to excel at anything you have to have drive and passion. At times your passion will wane; that is where, as adults, your drive pushes you through till your passion can be rekindled. Hopefully your time away will allow you to grow up and not be such a petulant child.
Dick.
I find this sad, apart from Scarlett and Naniwa all of my favourite players are Terrans (I play Terran). I really enjoyed Naniwa's play, the sick forcefields etc, and the drama surrounding him. I too would be happy to see him come back for LotV but it seems it is not to be. Farewell, King of the North.
So, because we don't let 3rd graders act like this in pee-wee sports I should say it's okay for a supposed adult to act like this? Wow, you call me a dick for expecting professionalism out of someone that is paid to perform. Ya, you are right, I'm WAY off base lol.
Sad to see you go, you were so talented. It's also a shame that you had to much negative experience in your career about bullocks, like flame and accusations here and there. Good luck in life whatever you decide to do. Go fighting!
The one thing that bothers me the most about many pros out there are the people who will endlessly worship said pro.
I think NaNiwa contributed a lot to the scene, but none of us really know what his personal life is like. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but nor am I saying he is a boy-scout. He did his job to make SC2 grow, in my opinion. Just like many other pros that you guys may not like (even those who should not be mentioned here on teamliquid).
I don't think anyone should have to be a saint when it comes to being a pro gamer. It's just realistic. I mean Tiger Woods is one of the world's best Golf players, but look at that drama that happened with him, two women, and a golf club and his car. Look at Charlie Sheen, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger, look at Tom Cruise, and look at Kobe Briant. Some of the worlds best examples in entertainment and mainstream sports. When that shit happens, I just shrug it off and think to myself, "Just like anyone else on any other day" for those guys. Why hate them like an episode of television unless they have personally crossed you?
Yeah its really a shame you left From what I know and have seen you really are the only foreigner who can compete with Koreans for the championship... I was really looking forward to you going all the way this year! Still, I understand losing interest in something and I definitely don't think you should force yourself if its really that unbearable. Anyway, good luck in whatever endeavor you decide to pursue from here and like the others said, I hope you will return next year or at least for LotV and your fans LovE
On July 19 2014 05:37 Marconos wrote: And therein lies the problem with non Korean pros. Too many view SC2 not as a job but something fun to do. If you want to be on the top and deserve it it's a job.
Many of us work 12+ hours / day in the non gaming world. You want to excel at anything you have to have drive and passion. At times your passion will wane; that is where, as adults, your drive pushes you through till your passion can be rekindled. Hopefully your time away will allow you to grow up and not be such a petulant child.
Dick.
I find this sad, apart from Scarlett and Naniwa all of my favourite players are Terrans (I play Terran). I really enjoyed Naniwa's play, the sick forcefields etc, and the drama surrounding him. I too would be happy to see him come back for LotV but it seems it is not to be. Farewell, King of the North.
So, because we don't let 3rd graders act like this in pee-wee sports I should say it's okay for a supposed adult to act like this? Wow, you call me a dick for expecting professionalism out of someone that is paid to perform. Ya, you are right, I'm WAY off base lol.
These are all arguments that perpetuated all throughout the IEM incident. The reality is that society lets elite talent have much more leniency with outrageous behavior. It is also true that sometimes it makes headlines and sometimes it is for the financial benefit of the person or industry. However it is also fact that organizations like a corporations, any skilled labor, NFL, government departments, and 99.999999% of the CAREERS available would've immediately fired and sued the employee for negligence. It really depends where the eSports community members want the industry to build into, a brand that is respected like the NFL, PGA, or NHL that heavily fines, force to sit out without pay, or even kick people out indefinitely. Or something like the NBA where teams go bankrupt, players force team policy, and players beat up fans in the stands.
GL in life man, I always enjoyed the contribution you brought to the scene - both in and outside the game. People like you kept / keep the SC2 scene going.
On July 19 2014 05:53 aringadingding wrote: Its really sad that you are actually almost closing the door to pro starcraft... You have played some many awesome games and tournaments. Its truly a loss to sc2 that you actually are implying there are no future for you. (as for the people who still are angry and upset beyond comprehension because of Katowiche... wow... then I can understand your decision. I forget from time to time that there are so many with a mentality of a small petty child just searching for a reason to hate and dislike... I mean... just watch the chat in avilos stream and behold the absolute bottom of human life and dignity. If these kind of people are around you, we all understand you.)
However, if we decide to ignore the obvious haters/retards you have MANY fans. We wish you ALL well and we hope that you will feel good with what you do in the future. Of course we want you back. But first of all. We want you to feel good.
Absolute bottom of human life and dignity? Excuse me? Sure, Avilo does get some trolls and haters in his chat, but those are quickly dealt with.
On July 19 2014 18:30 BreAKerTV wrote: The one thing that bothers me the most about many pros out there are the people who will endlessly worship said pro.
I think NaNiwa contributed a lot to the scene, but none of us really know what his personal life is like. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but nor am I saying he is a boy-scout. He did his job to make SC2 grow, in my opinion. Just like many other pros that you guys may not like (even those who should not be mentioned here on teamliquid).
I don't think anyone should have to be a saint when it comes to being a pro gamer. It's just realistic. I mean Tiger Woods is one of the world's best Golf players, but look at that drama that happened with him, two women, and a golf club and his car. Look at Charlie Sheen, look at Arnold Schwarzenegger, look at Tom Cruise, and look at Kobe Briant. Some of the worlds best examples in entertainment and mainstream sports. When that shit happens, I just shrug it off and think to myself, "Just like anyone else on any other day" for those guys. Why hate them like an episode of television unless they have personally crossed you?
I couldn't agree more. Shit like this pisses me off:
On July 18 2014 21:53 Faust852 wrote: I really think you should not come back if you don't change your persona. You are way too toxic and disrespectful. Damn, I wanted to punch you in the face when you said Polt won the game because the lack of soundproof, that's such a terrible insult to the most mannered Polt. And the last drama with Kane, wtf with you. SC2 is better without such a toxic person.
I don't know how the fuck someone can take something like that so personally. If Naniwa can hear the crowd outside the booth, then so can Polt, and it doesn't take a genius to know that if you hear people making an unusual amount of noise early in the game that something might be awry. But since you worship Polt, you'll believe bullshit like "That was standard scouting on that map" and maybe he would've scouted there, maybe he wouldn't have, but he definitely would make sure to do it if he heard something.
Furthermore, I don't know how you can say someone is "toxic and disrespectful", then turn around and say you want to punch them in the face. That makes no sense. People need to quit using the anonymity of this forum to bash on him. So, he doesn't like the game. Big fucking deal. He doesn't have to like SC2. So, some people are like "His attitude is hurting the scene" and shit, but guess what? Look at how many people would watch when he played. Think about how many people love him, and all the accomplishments he's made, and then try and tell me he's "hurting the scene" or "community".
I had to admit I had mixed feeling about you when I first started watching sc2, sometimes I hated your attitude and sometimes I rooted for you. After I started knowing you a little better, through interviews, documentaries, etc I actually started respecting and understanding you better, including the passion that you had for the game.
I sincerely wish you only success in everything you are going to do and if you invest that amount of passion that you have in anything you put your mind to, it cannot go wrong.
underrated. one of the greatest foreigners who no one never really knew how to appreciate perhaps the greatest foreign protoss player ever it was a joy watching you gg and gl
Yes, Naniwa hasn't always be a boy scout but he was one of the only foreigner to clearly give everything. He had so much passion and he seemed to practice so much I really wanted him to win. In my eyes you really have to respect that,he had the guts to follow his dream. I regret how he left because he will be remembered as the man who gave up IEM Katowice rather than the man who gave everything.
Good luck in whatever you're doing, it was a pleasure following you trying to be the best!
I hope you (and Stephano) will reconsider; I miss having the possibility of a non- korean win. There's not even been a runners up spot yet this year.. Can't blame (both of) you though; Good luck in whatever it is you're going to do.
On July 20 2014 23:42 Penev wrote: I hope you (and Stephano) will reconsider; I miss having the possibility of a non- korean win. There's not even been a runners up spot yet this year.. Can't blame (both of) you though; Good luck in whatever it is you're going to do.
Isn't Stephano on a team again?
And well, Scarlett, Bunny etc are surely better bets than Naniwa to win anything.
On July 18 2014 21:53 Faust852 wrote: I really think you should not come back if you don't change your persona. You are way too toxic and disrespectful. Damn, I wanted to punch you in the face when you said Polt won the game because the lack of soundproof, that's such a terrible insult to the most mannered Polt. And the last drama with Kane, wtf with you. SC2 is better without such a toxic person.
I don't know how the fuck someone can take something like that so personally. If Naniwa can hear the crowd outside the booth, then so can Polt, and it doesn't take a genius to know that if you hear people making an unusual amount of noise early in the game that something might be awry. But since you worship Polt, you'll believe bullshit like "That was standard scouting on that map" and maybe he would've scouted there, maybe he wouldn't have, but he definitely would make sure to do it if he heard something.
Furthermore, I don't know how you can say someone is "toxic and disrespectful", then turn around and say you want to punch them in the face. That makes no sense. People need to quit using the anonymity of this forum to bash on him. So, he doesn't like the game. Big fucking deal. He doesn't have to like SC2. So, some people are like "His attitude is hurting the scene" and shit, but guess what? Look at how many people would watch when he played. Think about how many people love him, and all the accomplishments he's made, and then try and tell me he's "hurting the scene" or "community".
Why shouldn't I take the game I love personally ? I do what the fuck I want lol and you are none to tell me otherwise. It's been proved that there was NO SOUND LEAKING and Polt is way too manner for letting things like that without noticing it. The IEM crew asks other players and there was nothing like sound leaking in the booth. That was just some asshole's excuses and Naniwa got what he deserved when he left the scene. And what about anonymity, you are also insulting me right now behind your nickname right ? Behind a nickname or not, I'd stand still about what I think about him, he has a toxic personality and deserve everything he got in the last year. I'm not rancorous about it though, If he wants to make a come back and start to be more respectful with others, I don't see the problem, I respect his play and I give him credit for his skill. And if he was such a good blessing for SC2, explain me the huge booing during IEM. Yeah, so much love for the guy.
On July 20 2014 23:42 Penev wrote: I hope you (and Stephano) will reconsider; I miss having the possibility of a non- korean win. There's not even been a runners up spot yet this year.. Can't blame (both of) you though; Good luck in whatever it is you're going to do.
Isn't Stephano on a team again?
And well, Scarlett, Bunny etc are surely better bets than Naniwa to win anything.
I don't think Stephano is treating SC2 the same as before. Scarlett and Snute (Bunny?) are "foreign hopes" as it is called but none of them have been as successful as the two we're talking about (yet). Don't you think that with Naniwa and a seriously training Stephano, chances of a foreigner winning a premier championship are bigger?
Naniwa... you were my inspiration when I played the game, you will always be the best foreigner to touch this game. I will forever remember you as the man who thumbs-downed Nestea in what may have been his prime.You will always be King of the North, GodSlayer... no one will ever take these titles from you. Although, as many of your fans would wish you to come back either now or later; I hope you pursue a life that you are PASSIONATE about. I know you don't need anyone to tell you that, because you have shown us time and time again you just don't give a fuck about all these bitch ass people-pleasers in e-Sports. I applaud you Naniw[A], I really wish there would be more people like you in this world. I have always been a Naniwa fan, not because of: your playstyle, your race (in-game), your ability to destroy (even the best) Koreans; but, of your ability to be who you are after everyone has shunned you, for being you.
I use your builds to this day and you were for sure one of the best to ever set foot on this game, unquestionably the most committed and talented foreigner to play SC2. I really hope you come back some day and show us your stellar game sense.
I really really hope you never come back, and never go pro in another game. Again and again you have shown your disrespect for the game, other players and for your fans. I used to be a fan, i tried to stick with it but you made it god damned near impossible to root for you.
The Passion for this game never really goes away.... The Desire to play does.... I hope this truly isnt the end for you Naniwa and maybe one day your desire will regain its flame.
I enjoyed watching you play because you were you. and i respect that your were real.
On July 19 2014 15:13 Gako wrote: It continues to amaze me a player who never learns could become that good at starcraft.
Maybe because he gave up everything to become that great of a player. Regardless of how you feel about his personality, you can't help but respect him for the insane dedication he had for the game
I don't think I know Naniwa good enough to tell if he is a nice guy or not, since I never met him, as well as nearly all ppl here.
But I do think that on one hand he created a lot of drama that wasn't necessary. And on the other hand I think he doesn't need to justify himself that often, because that makes me feel that he actually cares if people do hate him.
All in all he was one of the best players with a huge influence to the game, and that's what counts.
Cheers to Naniwa, I enjoyed your shots you fired on twitter as well as your excellent play.
I'm glad that he's moving on, I think if he continued to play he could have had more of these types of episodes (besides other provocative statements), which is not pleasant for anyone. Its nice that he could get some closure on this issue though, now he can hopefully move on in peace
i hate to see him go, but i can only feel for him...as a pro gamer, the evolution of your game is what keeps the drive going, and keeps it from becoming dull. think about it, these people don't play for "fun" anymore - it becomes a job/way of life...so the only way to keep things interesting is to have an ever-changing meta (which sc2 had for quite some time) that never fades. i think SC2 levelled itself out, and the evolution of the game has come to a weird halt.
not sure there's anyone or anything to blame, but the feeling i get from naniwa is the direction balance/units are going in. it just doesn't feel or seem like a true classical RTS game...
i'm not gonna place my opinion on this matter, as it's irrelevant to the topic, but i do miss naniwa, and i kind of feel what he's going through...it's got to be heartbreaking to not have the game evolve the way you would like it to...and i know he's just one person, and the world doesn't revolve around him, but i'm sure we can all agree with him on some level that the game has definately had its dull moments, and the current evolution of the meta is just not "fixing" any of the major issues a lot of pros bring up.
david kim is a smart guy, and i hope he'll continue to be open minded for the duration of HotS and into LotV. LotV will have high high high expectations from a lot of players...pro and casual alike.
stay in touch nani, and please give LotV a chance...even if it's not for pro gaming, i think you bring a lot to the table.
On July 18 2014 01:58 Naniwa wrote: I am still the guy who loved / loves starcraft more than anyone else considering the amount of time and effort i put into the game .
So true. Don't listen to those haters that haven't even loved a single thing as much as you have.
GL with whatever it is you're doing or will do. You were one of my favourites, and every stupid Naniwa drama that happened, while it would never have happened to me how it did, i always had massive empathy for your situations. And more often than not they exposed some abject stupidity within the scene.
Very unfortunate to hear this, but you left a good legacy and if you really don't love it right now then I'm only happy that you aren't forcing yourself to keep playing it.
I hope that you might come back one day, but thanks for all the practice and games you showed, it was really entertaining seeing you take down koreans, and I can only imagine how hard you must have trained!
On July 18 2014 21:53 Faust852 wrote: I really think you should not come back if you don't change your persona. You are way too toxic and disrespectful. Damn, I wanted to punch you in the face when you said Polt won the game because the lack of soundproof, that's such a terrible insult to the most mannered Polt. And the last drama with Kane, wtf with you. SC2 is better without such a toxic person.
Toxic is such a bullshit word for not being able to articulate why you want him gone. He added a lot to the scene and without players like him the sc2 scene is a lot more boring to follow. You can't say with a straight face sc2 would have been better without him regardless if you like him or not. I'm not saying all he did was for the better but he was an asset to the foreign scene for a long time, asshole or not.
Toxic is a word that is not really ban-worthy. And what did he really do for the scene ? Ok, he was the best foreigner for a while. But that's irrelevent, he was good at the begining but so was idra, jinro, White-ra or Dimaga. Then Stephano came, and took the title for more than a year, by far. Then Nani did some kind of comeback, but in the meantime Stephano was still the best foreigner, Lucifron was on fire and Scarlet was rising. He did nothing that had a big impact on the scene but being an asshole to others players and fans. I can take idra as an other exemple. Look; noone even talk about him anymore but he was like the biggest symbol of sc2 at his time.
Agreed with the 852 guy above (with 2000 posts no less!) Sincerely good riddance, good luck on what you do next. There are lots of new, rising young players who can carry the foreigner torch without being so BM. I will admit i suppported you for awhile, with a bent heart, even after the probe rush incident, but you just kept going on and on witht he BM. Imho the SC2 community doesn't need Idras or Naniwas to keep it alive. We get enough excitement from Korean no-names leaving their code B and crushing tournaments at their first try (hello Sascri, Pigbaby,.........). And we have enough drama with WCS AM and WCS EU being...welll...anything but American or European. We have plenty of things to debate and argue over, without having our foreigner hope be a....Naniwa. So once again good riddance and i hope to NOT see you back.
I dont want to bash naniwa.. and this comment wont be refered to naniwa only.. but any progamer out there...
Things like " my team forced me to play" is one of the biggest problems i see in esports.. and specialy foreigns.. " despite of the time dedicated by the players " the big majority of them.. dont know or understend what to be a profesional means.. not only the way they act and speak to public.. there is soo many examples and comments iv heard everyday from progamers.
Trust me i understand how hard it is to be at the highest lvl in a game like sc2.. i respect it like nothing else.. but watching how players like dongraegu.. taeja. stephano. or many others.. saying things in interviews like
"im not even practicing now" "im bored of the game" "i think i will quit , i dont enjoy it anymore" "i will try my best the next tourney but if i dont win i will consider retiring"
All this is true..as it is in any job.. and much worse.. probably but its like saying you cant wake up early on to go to work.. because you are tired.. ..what does the sponsors or people think about esports after listening to this kind of stuff? people retiring and coming back after 2 months.. people trash talking their own team or game... in public interviews.. how can you expect it to be better? to get more sponsors and money? or grow if everyplayer has this attitude...
At least this is how it looks.. i do respect naniwa as a player.. and wish him the best tho.. but will face this problem in any job you get.. unfortunately..
Miss you a lot NaNiwa. I held up hopes that you would come back... Whatever you choose to do, I wish you all the best, success and happiness. Thanks for everything <3
"I am still the guy who loved / loves starcraft more than anyone else considering the amount of time and effort i put into the game"
Seeing that part being quoted so often - I do not think you're the one who practiced most out of all Starcraft players out there. Your attitude towards people sucked, and reading this blog just adds insult to injury. You're not even putting in the effort of using proper grammar or punctuation, and the blog reads more like a five minute "I'm done take it or leave it" than a real message to your fans. Godspeed on your way, and please do not come back.
You represent, not only Sweden but all foreigners in SC2, if not e-sports in its entirety! You have to make a comeback in Lotv and take back the throne as the single best foreign player. You have inspired me through out your whole career.
Tonight we shed a tear for the best foreign player in star craft 2 ever. Please come back!
I hope your able to come and just take a vacation in Korea sometime Naniwa without having to worry about gaming, its a fun place when you get to go out and have fun ^_^
thanks for paving the way your attitude couldve been eeter sometimes but thats who you were ill never hate on players who helped take down koreans even though i am one it made good games and you were good i do hope youll come back you have the potential you were a jinro and idra from a later time
On July 18 2014 02:24 StarGalaxy wrote: "I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more"
but for what are you sorry?
The way he handled the situation? ...
that's not a reason. to clarify i am wondering why/ for what reason he is feeling sorry since he only explains why he is not sorry.
You are a bit stupid. Try to semi-carefully read the sentence Naniwa wrote. He is very sorry for HOW THINGS WENT DOWN AT THIS EVENT. That means, he is regretful about this whole scenario. Stop being a smartass. Hopefully you calm your ignorance and your flatout fake "superior and more intellectual being" bullshit.
Nani was a great player and his actions displayed that he did not care about other people's respect or opinions towards him. He just wanted to be the best. I guess the best way (for a player) to deal with the spotlight is to be yourself and just don't care.
People will tolerate IdrA hoping for an opponent to die or Stephano "joking" about raping a girl. However they cannot cope with the disrespect of Naniwa. I don't get it. Just yesterday Innovation played four times proxy12rax (Destiny1) he robbed Major of showing his skill versus a top player and disappointed all fans hoping to see Innovation's skill. Where is the hate post about that? Despite people's actions, Nani's actions are consequent. Doing the probe rush took guts and shows his character. If there is no point in playing. Don't play.
p.s.: Yes, this topic made me create an account, because Nani deserves to make me raise my voice.
I think most Starcraft (and Blizzard games in general these days) are a bore but Naniwa had an exciting playstyle and a likeable personality. Let's remember that.
On August 12 2014 01:46 Johnnyq wrote: Nani was a great player and his actions displayed that he did not care about other people's respect or opinions towards him. He just wanted to be the best. I guess the best way (for a player) to deal with the spotlight is to be yourself and just don't care.
People will tolerate IdrA hoping for an opponent to die or Stephano "joking" about raping a girl. However they cannot cope with the disrespect of Naniwa. I don't get it. Just yesterday Innovation played four times proxy12rax (Destiny1) he robbed Major of showing his skill versus a top player and disappointed all fans hoping to see Innovation's skill. Where is the hate post about that? Despite people's actions, Nani's actions are consequent. Doing the probe rush took guts and shows his character. If there is no point in playing. Don't play.
p.s.: Yes, this topic made me create an account, because Nani deserves to make me raise my voice.
Why would you hate a player that uses legit game tactics to win a game, overcoming his lag-enforced disadvantage with a solid allin? you're salty.
On August 12 2014 03:55 Oakenshield wrote: I think most Starcraft (and Blizzard games in general these days) are a bore but Naniwa had an exciting playstyle and a likeable personality. Let's remember that.
So you're saying the game that this website is about is boring while having an account here and you're also saying that one of the most insulting progamers of that game has a "likeable personality"? Not sure if trolling.
On August 12 2014 06:58 boxerfred wrote: Why would you hate a player that uses legit game tactics to win a game, overcoming his lag-enforced disadvantage with a solid allin? you're salty.
It seems like you want to get me wrong. You know exactly what I mean and how "legit" this tactics is - four times - in a row. He did not complain of lag and strangely there were macro games, c'mon stop that pointless nitpicking. And where did I state "I hate" anyone? I just said it's something that might be considered disrespectful. However the way people chose what is disrespectful obviously depends on sympathy.
Basically i will try to write down my perhaps final thoughts about starcraft 2,
I realise now after reading alot of the comments that my random tweets who i thought were harmless actually just sound bitter and negative ( which they obviously were ) but i didnt really think it through as deep as you guys did. I am still the guy who loved / loves starcraft more than anyone else considering the amount of time and effort i put into the game . For starters i know that i have alot of haters and i dont really care about that , i am not gonna be a little girl and make an AMA to make you people on the internet like me. But i just want to write my opinions once so i dont have to see people speculating anymore .
I will probably not come back to sc2 even at legacy of the void because i feel like the best way to compete in sc2 is to train in korea and i have no passion to go there again as it was extremly mentally draining and the only reason i could endure it was because i had Sase and Snute to talk to on the later trips. Also swarmhosts made the game so incredibly boring in my opinion.... but yeah im sure you already know my opinion on that already so no need to go there.
Iem katowice.
How this event was handled by me was probably one of my biggest dissapointments.
Let me make it clear that i had no intention of going to this event at ALL, I only went because my team forced me to go.
I hadnt played a single game of starcraft one - two months prior to this event because i felt absolutely zero love for the game at this point unfortunately
and im not the kind of guy who can force myself when i lose passion for something. because starcraft to me is not a job, it never was a job. + Show Spoiler +
its always been my life and something i loved so much. During my peaks in the game i played around 12-16 hours every day and when i slept i thought about strategys so its not really like i can force myself to do this as im sure you can understand its not an easy feat.
If i had the chance to do it all again, I would definitly rather take a fine from EG / ALLIANCE than go through with what actually happened again. I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more , because they did not since i qualified through it fair and square. if they were better than me then they wouldve qualified but because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching, and most importantly im sure you all know i took a great amount of pride being a player and i want to live up to my own expectations.
I appreciate you as a player who plays for the love of the game, and I do agree and understand most of what you said. BUT, there is still this one point on which I disagree. As long as you're earning money from it, it's a job and you have to deal with it, or your don't get the money.
Basically i will try to write down my perhaps final thoughts about starcraft 2,
I realise now after reading alot of the comments that my random tweets who i thought were harmless actually just sound bitter and negative ( which they obviously were ) but i didnt really think it through as deep as you guys did. I am still the guy who loved / loves starcraft more than anyone else considering the amount of time and effort i put into the game . For starters i know that i have alot of haters and i dont really care about that , i am not gonna be a little girl and make an AMA to make you people on the internet like me. But i just want to write my opinions once so i dont have to see people speculating anymore .
I will probably not come back to sc2 even at legacy of the void because i feel like the best way to compete in sc2 is to train in korea and i have no passion to go there again as it was extremly mentally draining and the only reason i could endure it was because i had Sase and Snute to talk to on the later trips. Also swarmhosts made the game so incredibly boring in my opinion.... but yeah im sure you already know my opinion on that already so no need to go there.
Iem katowice.
How this event was handled by me was probably one of my biggest dissapointments.
Let me make it clear that i had no intention of going to this event at ALL, I only went because my team forced me to go.
I hadnt played a single game of starcraft one - two months prior to this event because i felt absolutely zero love for the game at this point unfortunately
and im not the kind of guy who can force myself when i lose passion for something. because starcraft to me is not a job, it never was a job. + Show Spoiler +
its always been my life and something i loved so much. During my peaks in the game i played around 12-16 hours every day and when i slept i thought about strategys so its not really like i can force myself to do this as im sure you can understand its not an easy feat.
If i had the chance to do it all again, I would definitly rather take a fine from EG / ALLIANCE than go through with what actually happened again. I am very sorry for how things went down at this event, not because i felt like someone else deserved the spot more , because they did not since i qualified through it fair and square. if they were better than me then they wouldve qualified but because i want to show my best condition to everyone whos watching, and most importantly im sure you all know i took a great amount of pride being a player and i want to live up to my own expectations.
I appreciate you as a player who plays for the love of the game, and I do agree and understand most of what you said. BUT, there is still this one point on which I disagree. As long as you're earning money from it, it's a job and you have to deal with it, or your don't get the money.
I don't think you've heard of the phrase, "to each his own"... words are subjective, and many of those out there have chosen to give the word "job" a different connotation from the norm. yes, a job is something "you're earning money from" but it doesnt have to be. in a more economic perspective, a job could just be something you're going to do regardless of pay. but, because you're getting paid you enjoy it even more: utility gained exceed the cost you're putting in. to naniwa, the game was his passion and for the years that he has spent, it continued to be his passion. it wasn't a job (per-say) to naniwa, however, it soon became a 9-5 grind (and longer since progamers work 24hrs); and that's when it became a JOB.
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