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Haters - why they can drag me down

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madals
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom624 Posts
June 23 2014 21:45 GMT
#1
Context: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/28vt2d/1900cest_i_am_casting_go4sc2_75_mon_cup_come/cif6gez

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So, it isn't often I respond to online hate in various community outlets, but after a 4 hour cast with an awesome new caster who contacted me - this one got to me.

It isn't the usual twitch chat level of "omg you suck" - "worst caster ever" style, that it just mindless (even if they believe it) spam. It is a targeted dig at something that I have expended a large amount of time, effort and money on doing for mainly my own enjoyment.

Also, the fact that I just got in touch with a new co-caster via reddit - an awesome guy who has LOADS of potential and then I read this makes me sad. I am used to this kind of comment, but what if someone new to the scene reads this and decided to quit, that would be pretty shitty

Obviously, the first response is to just ignore them, but ultimately I aim to TRY and get some kind constructive critique out of negative comments so that I can say that I have done everything I can to be the best I can be - that is all I can ever do.

So why am I writing this blog? Just because I want to vent, people like that can and do demotivate people in the community - be it players, casters, content creators whatever. It is categorically why a fucking ton of those people don't interact on TL, reddit whatever, they don't want to deal with abusive messages like that. Also, to remind people - it may seem stupid / pointless to many, but if you enjoy someones content / play, let them know. Just a simple "fun stream" or something like that can really help people with their motivation and enjoyment of something we all love.

Sorry for ranting, hope to see you all in the HuK v Snute $400 Bo9 tomorrow night

**
Caster: @Madals91 http://www.youtube.com/Madals91 <--
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
June 23 2014 21:50 GMT
#2
Haters gonna hate. No one wants to admit it, but it's who you know, not what/how good you are at it. (Speaking from real life, not eSports, but I imagine it's the same).

You will catch a break one of these days, and say fuck the old boys club and do your own thing. Don't let hate get you down, do your thing and continue to work hard! It can always be worse, ALWAYS.

Will definitely be checking out the B09
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 23 2014 22:13 GMT
#3
welcome to the fandom area of the internet:D

anyway good luck in your futher endevours^^
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 23 2014 22:32 GMT
#4
Some people are dickheads, all you can do is ignore them and hope the karma gods smite them. Like the guy who harassed incontrol for 2 years and got dunked on recently.

I enjoy watching your stuff but I don't have time to catch all of it, glad you are still motivated to make your content
Zerg for Life
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States970 Posts
June 23 2014 22:43 GMT
#5
I feel you man, and I think it's great that you try and get something out of the criticism. Good feedback is hard to come by.

But at the end of the day, I've realized that you have to be your biggest critic. I still think that even the commentators sitting at the top should be rewatching their casts at least sometimes and picking them apart for things to improve on. After that, developing friends and close contacts you can trust for feedback, even if it's just one or two, is important to get an outside perspective.

At the end of the day, trying to be the commentator that appeals to everyone is a nigh impossible goal. Be who you want to be.

Best of luck man!
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32046 Posts
June 23 2014 23:36 GMT
#6
eh, i understand why you are pissed, but this blog probably made that dude pop a chubby. Ignoring is the best move
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 24 2014 02:45 GMT
#7
HuK is gonna get pwned, it's not even gonna be close.

Personally, I would've just told him to go die by drowning in a kiddie pool and let that be the end of it.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Rhiot
Profile Joined May 2011
112 Posts
June 24 2014 06:10 GMT
#8
subbed because haters!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 24 2014 14:06 GMT
#9
If you have haters, that's good. Look at TotalBiscuit. Fame can be measured with how much hater you have !

You'll be glad when you reach TB's huge "hater fanbase".

If you have haters, it means your known. And that's not really a bad thing. But yeah, it's hard to ignore. Sometime you'll slip like that.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 24 2014 14:31 GMT
#10
Keep your chin up, I used to run a lot of smaller tournaments and post stuff in /r/starcraft a fair bit. I know you can't unsub completely given the traffic, but if it is really getting to you, you can make it so you don't get notice of new comments on the thread.

I say if it bothers you, put some blinders on the comment section because reddit is going to reddit. Keep up the content though, you've made leaps and bounds from when I first saw you casting.


radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
June 24 2014 14:59 GMT
#11
oh my god...I went to the reddit page and looked at the whole thing. This one guy at the top has this hilarious comment..
"1900cest looks like a sex line for hill billies."

I love reddit
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33309 Posts
June 24 2014 18:18 GMT
#12
guy seems like a troll from his post history D:
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