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TLIHs are dead, long live TLIHs - Page 3

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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 24 2014 03:29 GMT
#41
I'm looking for more people to play dota with regularly. I'll sit in a lobby for a while and see if anyone joins. Created now. Will probably give up if some friends come online.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
June 24 2014 03:42 GMT
#42
On June 24 2014 12:08 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 11:34 pahndah wrote:
On June 24 2014 10:24 Kupon3ss wrote:
On June 24 2014 09:00 aboxcar wrote:
I don't think skill or toxicity has anything to do with it, the times we do play it is completely fine.

The main thing is there is no #hardwork and #dedication from anyone. It takes people who are serious about hosting (and are popular enough to gather others) to show up and sit and play for awhile, and ain't nobody got time for that.

When that is in place, then the casuals like me who want to just show up and play 1 or 2 will do so.


this is why we need #fireboltgamer


The hero we need that can make everyone else feel good about their plays.


This is bothering me.

CHANGE TO TIMBERSAW. YOU SHOULD NOT BE A TINKER.

Thank you, carry on now.


Its all tinker now. #bandwagon #inthemeta #ophero
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 24 2014 04:41 GMT
#43
On June 24 2014 12:42 pahndah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 12:08 LeLoup wrote:
On June 24 2014 11:34 pahndah wrote:
On June 24 2014 10:24 Kupon3ss wrote:
On June 24 2014 09:00 aboxcar wrote:
I don't think skill or toxicity has anything to do with it, the times we do play it is completely fine.

The main thing is there is no #hardwork and #dedication from anyone. It takes people who are serious about hosting (and are popular enough to gather others) to show up and sit and play for awhile, and ain't nobody got time for that.

When that is in place, then the casuals like me who want to just show up and play 1 or 2 will do so.


this is why we need #fireboltgamer


The hero we need that can make everyone else feel good about their plays.


This is bothering me.

CHANGE TO TIMBERSAW. YOU SHOULD NOT BE A TINKER.

Thank you, carry on now.


Its all tinker now. #bandwagon #inthemeta #ophero


offlane tinker is legit anyways
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
June 24 2014 06:22 GMT
#44
Is there someway of getting an email notification (or something similar) when the when people are looking to start it up? Maybe even simply whenever the tlih thread is bumped. When I don't know what time to look for it, I am not going to be checking all day long. If i got an alert and I wasn't working at that time (which unfortunately is the case a lot of the time living in USW) I would jump on more often than not.

When the guilds were introduced I really expected there would be such an alert through steam, which would have worked as well. As it is I only check tl a few times a day, so I have to be really lucky to happen upon an ongoing tlih.

I tried to start lobbies a few times. I even made a point to do so in the mornings when EU folks should be around, but eventually decided I didn't have personal contact with enough of the regulars to fill a lobby.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
June 24 2014 06:59 GMT
#45
I wish valve would make a IHL or something thatll make RMM more conpetitive and brings the community closer
我是冠军
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28085 Posts
June 24 2014 07:06 GMT
#46
On June 24 2014 12:23 Stancel wrote:
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On June 24 2014 05:51 LeLoup wrote:
Like, the top tier people that play (Rocketbear, Alurr, Beesa to name a few)


Yo LeLoup...


maybe if we played on SEA...
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Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 08:08:29
June 24 2014 08:02 GMT
#47
I blame stancel literally killing tlihs

But more seriously skill gap between players can be large as stated by other people above, and it makes for not really interesting games
Also switching to IXDL is jsut annoying (but that might just be me, I hate having to install external programs to do extra stuff).
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
June 24 2014 10:31 GMT
#48
I blame Firebolt.
Someone has to.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 24 2014 11:51 GMT
#49
No TLIH in EU ever...
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
tabbi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany113 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 12:09:00
June 24 2014 12:03 GMT
#50
On June 24 2014 20:51 Torte de Lini wrote:
No TLIH in EU ever...


This. :/ I was trying to find EU games when the switch to IXDL client was made but games were very rare. I checked for activity every now and then since with no success. I'd love playing in a chill inhouse league so badly still
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 13:17:11
June 24 2014 13:15 GMT
#51
On June 24 2014 20:51 Torte de Lini wrote:
No TLIH in EU ever...

On June 24 2014 21:03 tabbi wrote:
This. :/ I was trying to find EU games when the switch to IXDL client was made but games were very rare. I checked for activity every now and then since with no success. I'd love playing in a chill inhouse league so badly still

We are aware of the issues, hence this blog. And TLIHs were always hosted on USE due to people from all around the world having the best average ping to USE. Sure, US citizens had it better that way, but I literally heard either no complaints at all, or complaints from everyone, which resulted in a rehost.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 24 2014 15:34 GMT
#52
EU guys complaining about ping to USE?

heh
ffxiv enjoyer
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
June 24 2014 16:06 GMT
#53
On June 25 2014 00:34 Stancel wrote:
EU guys complaining about ping to USE?

heh


Considering you typically played Puck in these with your ping I'm not sure how anyone could complain.

Though ping doesn't change the stancel dieback.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
June 24 2014 16:47 GMT
#54
Personally I haven't found the skill difference to be a problem. TLIH games have more good players than bad ones and I think thats an important factor as you can tutor individuals instead of having to herd a team

I have to agree that absurd skill differences are hard to mitigate, but I don't think that there are that many TLIHers who are guaranteed to feed. Off the top of my head I can only think of plansix (sorry lol).

TLIH is also pretty close knit and everyone is friendly. There aren't many games where people get mad even if stupid shit happens. IMO this aspect is TLIH's biggest attraction. RMM and IXDL exist but these theoretically "better" games are often a shitty experience.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34486 Posts
June 24 2014 16:52 GMT
#55
Pretty sure I feed more than Plansix does.
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
June 24 2014 16:56 GMT
#56
On June 25 2014 01:47 Veles wrote:
TLIH is also pretty close knit and everyone is friendly. There aren't many games where people get mad even if stupid shit happens. IMO this aspect is TLIH's biggest attraction. RMM and IXDL exist but these theoretically "better" games are often a shitty experience.

I'd personally love to keep it that way, but we'll see how it goes and adapt on the go. Either way, we're gonna begin to try and bootstrap the next season this Saturday, so if you could update the modnote Firebolt, that'd be grand (if any doubts regarding hours arise, I'll be available the entire day to host).
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
June 24 2014 17:05 GMT
#57
On June 24 2014 02:38 Alur wrote:
We should just have the modnote display the time of the next upcoming TLIH session. If people can see that it's a confirmed thing rather than just some guy "thinking he might try to host something tonight", theyre much more likely to show. Games would start late EU evening, where atleast one "well known" member is available.

Actually, while were at it, it would be pretty cool if TLIH's could be integrated into the liquiddota site. Like if you could see lobby status/player count somewhere on the site, and add incentives like gaining LD gold or maybe some equivalent to liquipedia coins. However, I'm not sure such additions are justifiable if you consider the waning interest in TLIH's.

The countdown modnote made games happen and I think we should try it again.
Maybe automate it to reset every week or something
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
June 24 2014 19:05 GMT
#58
On June 25 2014 01:06 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 00:34 Stancel wrote:
EU guys complaining about ping to USE?

heh


Considering you typically played Puck in these with your ping I'm not sure how anyone could complain.

Though ping doesn't change the stancel dieback.

it helps if you're used to it

there's people who can't play smash with 60ms lag, i cant play dota if i have 200 or more

remember when aL played on eu and stomped all the eu teams? yea, but they also practiced on EU to get accustomed to the pingg
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 24 2014 19:17 GMT
#59
The australian aL?


They only played on uswest, and only won on uswest.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 24 2014 19:47 GMT
#60
On June 25 2014 01:52 Firebolt145 wrote:
Pretty sure I feed more than Plansix does.

Well you likely play more than in do. That and when I do play TLIH the first time someone drafted me shadow demon, who I had never played, against rocket bear on brew. After than game, my reputation as a feeder was set in stone.
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