• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:51
CET 12:51
KST 20:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA16
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays What happened to TvZ on Retro? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1856 users

Woohoo P Exam Passed

Blogs > PassionFruit
Post a Reply
PassionFruit
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 06:08:24
May 16 2014 03:17 GMT
#1
Passed the P exam today on the first shot.

FM exam coming up next month.

MFE exam the following month.

Gonna aim to go 3 for 3 in 3, yeah!

Being a lawyer sucks a huge nugget. So it's time to become an actuary.

Edit for the peasants: They're some of the prelim exams you need to pass to become an actuary. Exams P and FM are more of the weeder type exams, while you start to get a taste of some of the heavier stuff in the MFE exam. Acronyms: P exam is Probability exam; FM exam is Financial Mathematics exam; MFE exam is Models for Financial Economics exam. Pass rate hovers around 40% for P and MFE and around 50% for FM.

The faster I pass the tests, the faster I can become employed in the capacity of a student actuary, and the faster I can quit being a lawyer. Boom!

P.S. Just kidding about the peasant part.

***
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 16 2014 03:40 GMT
#2
I thought P Exam meant "Protoss Exam" and that you've successfully cheesed all races in all ladder maps

I still dunno what those are though
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
May 16 2014 05:37 GMT
#3
Congratulations on doing that thing that I don't understand, but which is probably quite impressive
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 16 2014 05:52 GMT
#4
I'm taking my KLF exam over the summer. Anyone have any advice?
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
May 16 2014 06:53 GMT
#5
On May 16 2014 14:52 Epishade wrote:
I'm taking my KLF exam over the summer. Anyone have any advice?

Don't fail.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 16 2014 12:38 GMT
#6
You can still be a lawyer and add these skills to your occupation
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
May 16 2014 14:52 GMT
#7
P was the roughest one for me, I felt like FM and MFE were easier.

Although I didn't take them all in a row in a few months' span, however.

I'm taking exams ST and LC (for the CAS) in October, need to start studying soon.

And finally congrats! Go get the other two champ! (and ignore my comments on them being easier if it makes you get complacent!)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 23:14:49
May 16 2014 23:13 GMT
#8
Congratulations. It can be really difficult these days to get that first job as an actuary, but once get it and have a few years of experience packed away you are golden.

I passed P and FM fairly easily before I started working, but once I got a job I found it incredibly hard to motivate myself to study. The exams aren't particularly hard conceptually, but they are designed such that you need to be able to execute the standard problems very quickly and efficiently.

P was the roughest one for me, I felt like FM and MFE were easier.


You can actually tell a lot about a person based on their preference between P and FM in my opinion. FM is much more formulaic and process driven while P favors conceptual thinkers. Neither is better, but I can usually predict which one people would prefer after getting to know them a bit.

I am a P person, by the way. I found FM fairly dull and far more difficult. I know plenty of people who felt the exact opposite though.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
PassionFruit
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
294 Posts
May 17 2014 06:45 GMT
#9
Dunno about the difficulty of the actuarial exams, especially given I've only taken the P exam.

But to give a short comparison to the CA bar exam:
The actual difficulty is less than the bar exam given that it's split up into multiple tests (ggnore actuarial exams win if just the prelims were grouped together). But the potential difficulty for these exams seems to greatly exceed the bar exam imo. Now I've only taken the P exam, so my perspective may be a bit warped by this one subject. But they could've made this exam extremely difficulty if they were so inclined. And I don't mean just lower the pass rate to make the difficulty artificial, but to just make every single question a fuckton harder. There are an almost infinite kind of pretty wacky (and fun?) questions they can ask to test your fundamental understanding of probability theory. And the manner of approaching and solving each question could potentially vary quite drastically as well.

But on the bar exam, once you figure out how to approach a question "like a lawyer," it's pretty much just a test of memorization. And after three years of going to a legit law school, thinking "like a lawyer" isn't that difficult to do. Give me any legal situation, and if I have the law memorized I can answer it in the manner that will give me a pass on the bar exam. And unlike exams based in mathematics, a standardized legal exam is difficult to make more difficult other than by expanding the amount of stuff you have to memorize. Legal analysis is legal analysis. It doesn't matter what fact pattern you give me or the type of law I have to apply, the exact same kind of analysis will be applicable to it all, be it contracts, property, constitutional, or criminal law.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 193
Reynor 38
Rex 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34460
Sea 4742
Rain 4151
actioN 1651
Hyuk 1320
Soulkey 1105
GuemChi 1099
Larva 495
Shuttle 488
Stork 398
[ Show more ]
Soma 366
Killer 348
BeSt 295
Light 203
ZerO 121
Free 113
Rush 98
Pusan 96
Hyun 92
Yoon 88
JYJ87
Snow 80
ggaemo 48
Liquid`Ret 34
Aegong 26
zelot 25
Mind 25
Backho 24
Icarus 22
JulyZerg 18
Terrorterran 18
Noble 15
SilentControl 9
Hm[arnc] 5
Dota 2
singsing2127
XcaliburYe145
League of Legends
JimRising 459
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2770
fl0m1277
shoxiejesuss706
zeus611
x6flipin483
allub230
edward26
Other Games
B2W.Neo1633
Pyrionflax322
Fuzer 274
Mew2King49
ZerO(Twitch)6
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 54
• LUISG 35
• Adnapsc2 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV347
League of Legends
• Jankos1074
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
10m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 10m
OSC
11h 10m
Wardi Open
1d
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.