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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
May 07 2014 18:42 GMT
#1
So I just wanted to write a really small blog to just let people know what's going on with me. I'm going to keep it short and to the point. My hands had been improving. (Ha if I had a nickel for every time I said this.) I've started doing 2 or so hours a day of SC2 every day. I even casted with TB on Clan Wars, and for LSC this last weekend. I casted at LSC controlling the mouse (poorly) for a very long period of time, without my hands getting much worse even.

The problem with doing all of these things at the moment, is they still come with a lot of pain. I take advil, and it doesn't really help it anymore. It's just a dull pain (sometimes sharp) that I'm coming to live with. And if it comes to it, well I'll just live with it, because what can you do.

However I'd like to try and take a month or so to just completely rest my hands again at this point. As I'm continuing with college in the fall, and I have another job as well that I'm working at, I have to consider what I want to do in the future. I think if I spend another month doing nothing, maybe when I come back and try playing 2 hours a day, the pain will be less. It'll be more manageable and just overall I'll be more equipped to deal with it. If it's not better within a month of no activity, I might try and wait a little longer, or I might just try and live with the pain or I don't really know.

I love being involved in e-sports in some capacity, and I miss it when I'm not. I know I haven't done much lately. And I know I'm always looking towards the future, hoping that sometime I can be involved more and more rather then less and less. For now I'm just going to take this one month or so break and I'll let you know how it goes at the end of it. See, that really was a short blog right?

If you have any questions or comments feel free to let me know,

Sincerely, the guy always talking about his hands.

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 07 2014 18:47 GMT
#2
Taking the pressure off your hands for a little while sounds like a good idea, and might just be the thing that lets you fully recover. I hope your hands feel better!
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Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
May 07 2014 18:49 GMT
#3
I'm sure it must be hard, but I hope you put your health first!
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 07 2014 18:54 GMT
#4
I've had tendonitis in my right wrist off and on for about 4 years now, so I totally understand the feeling of "just living with dull pain" :/. But as long as you're resting it, treating it, and exercising/stretching it properly, it should start to improve .Take it easy, man! We'll always be waiting for you when you get back!

Also, I hope your diet is still going well too. You made a bunch of positive life changes (or at least, it seemed to me) almost a year ago, and I really do hope it has been helping you to improve overall as a person. Just keep it up and make sure you're taking care of yourself! Like I said, we'll be waiting for your return .
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
May 07 2014 19:12 GMT
#5
Not sure how it might help (depends on your specific problem) but have you tried some of the different ergo/therapeutic mice on the market? Probably wouldn't be great for gaming, but it may help you with general computer use to avoid pain. A friend of mine has fibro, horrible RST in her wrists, and a boatload of other issues. She can only use a joystick-style mouse - rather than the normal grip surface and buttons, it's shaped like a joystick with the buttons on the stick but glides and tracks like a normal mouse with the sensor in the base.

In any case, if you can avoid pain it's better than living with it (I'm in near constant low grade pain for reasons no doctor can yet explain, but it may have something to do with my degenerating C4 disc) - advil sucks. So does Alleve. Other things don't suck so much, but have their own drawbacks (oxycotin, any of the 'sets, ultram, mobic, etc, etc.)
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Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
May 07 2014 19:17 GMT
#6
hearthstone beckons
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ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States701 Posts
May 07 2014 20:02 GMT
#7
Your situation and mine sounds kind of similar. ): I'm constantly thinking about what I have to do now to ensure I can do something stable in the future, when it comes to my health. I checked your last blog and while you said your doctor was confident you would be healthy again...well, it doesn't sound like he was correct in his diagnosis/treatment. I'mma tell you what worked for me - if this is already advice you've gotten, sorry!, but here it goes: have you talked to anyone who said the problem started in your neck/shoulders?

I had wrist/arm pain for about two years now. For the first year and a half I went to the same therapist/doctor combo and they always focused on my arm. They told me it was just tendonitis, and things like 'rest it and it will be okay'. I tried resting. I didn't touch a computer for more than two hours a day for a month. Pretty much exactly what you're thinking of doing. It was terrible. And it all resulted in the same pain. Dulled pain, but still pain.

What really worked was going to a therapist who looked above just the arm. They diagnosed me with mild tennis elbow and worked my neck/shoulders more than anything else. Now when I do neck/shoulder stretches as opposed to just hand/wrist stretches, I can feel it working. Gradually the pain stopped being so severe in my wrist, and now when I play for extended periods of time, my body is finally alerting me to the real problems by making my neck sore/tight.

I would go into deeper detail but I'm not sure if you've already tried this approach or what. If you have, sorry for the TL;DR! If not, it's definitely something to look into. Wasting a month doing nothing you enjoy for the promise of no more pain only to be met with it again is, well, fucking infuriating.

Either way, however you decide to get healthy, good luck! I hope to still see you casting somewhat, cuz as long as there's a dedicated observer you can just follow and be done with it, it isn't so bad.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
May 07 2014 20:24 GMT
#8
I hope you keep on casting atleast. I loved it this past weekend for Lone Star. You could maybe just set your screen to follow another caster so you do not have to be an observer.
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
May 07 2014 20:34 GMT
#9
I do hope you stay involved, whether through casting or streaming hearthstone/mafia.
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oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
May 07 2014 21:00 GMT
#10
play hearthstone a bit? gl with everthing. Fight the good fight
ImAdonis
Profile Joined May 2013
15 Posts
May 07 2014 21:03 GMT
#11
Sounds like a plan, Sheth. Wish you the best.
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
May 07 2014 21:18 GMT
#12
Sheth, man, take care of yourself, first and foremost. That's all we fans want you to do.
Take care and hope to see you eSporting around in any capacity
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looknohands119
Profile Joined March 2010
United States815 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 21:56:43
May 07 2014 21:43 GMT
#13
On May 08 2014 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Taking the pressure off your hands for a little while sounds like a good idea, and might just be the thing that lets you fully recover. I hope your hands feel better!


Blazinghand, your name is uniquely relevant. Shawn, I hope the month off goes well and and that you'll be feeling well enough to after to start playing a bit more. Good luck and I hope work/school goes well in the meantime. <3

P.S. Will you be at MLG? I miss killing/being killed by you in mafia.

Edit: We should also play Hearthstone sometime. :D
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
May 07 2014 23:12 GMT
#14
Aww, I was hoping you'd continue with casting. The series you casted with TB was in need of some preparation, particularly in regards to the unique maps, and it would've been nice to see you build upon that.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
May 08 2014 01:37 GMT
#15
We want you to stay in eSports! Thanks for the update.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 08 2014 01:47 GMT
#16
On May 08 2014 03:42 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So I just wanted to write a really small blog to just let people know what's going on with me. I'm going to keep it short and to the point. My hands had been improving. (Ha if I had a nickel for every time I said this.) I've started doing 2 or so hours a day of SC2 every day. I even casted with TB on Clan Wars, and for LSC this last weekend. I casted at LSC controlling the mouse (poorly) for a very long period of time, without my hands getting much worse even.

The problem with doing all of these things at the moment, is they still come with a lot of pain. I take advil, and it doesn't really help it anymore. It's just a dull pain (sometimes sharp) that I'm coming to live with. And if it comes to it, well I'll just live with it, because what can you do.

However I'd like to try and take a month or so to just completely rest my hands again at this point. As I'm continuing with college in the fall, and I have another job as well that I'm working at, I have to consider what I want to do in the future. I think if I spend another month doing nothing, maybe when I come back and try playing 2 hours a day, the pain will be less. It'll be more manageable and just overall I'll be more equipped to deal with it. If it's not better within a month of no activity, I might try and wait a little longer, or I might just try and live with the pain or I don't really know.

I love being involved in e-sports in some capacity, and I miss it when I'm not. I know I haven't done much lately. And I know I'm always looking towards the future, hoping that sometime I can be involved more and more rather then less and less. For now I'm just going to take this one month or so break and I'll let you know how it goes at the end of it. See, that really was a short blog right?

If you have any questions or comments feel free to let me know,

Sincerely, the guy always talking about his hands.

Taking off a month to rest your hands is a good idea. Having said that, if the advil isn't working and it's still pretty painful, the next step up is usually opioids. Take a look at tylenol #1. I dunno how pharmacies work in the US but up here, you can just ask for tylenol #1 and the pharmacist will give it to you and counsel you on it if its needed. No prescription required and it can possibly help with your pain. Thanks for keeping us up to date and good luck!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
FuZZyFroG
Profile Joined December 2010
United States13 Posts
May 08 2014 02:41 GMT
#17
On May 08 2014 10:47 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:42 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So I just wanted to write a really small blog to just let people know what's going on with me. I'm going to keep it short and to the point. My hands had been improving. (Ha if I had a nickel for every time I said this.) I've started doing 2 or so hours a day of SC2 every day. I even casted with TB on Clan Wars, and for LSC this last weekend. I casted at LSC controlling the mouse (poorly) for a very long period of time, without my hands getting much worse even.

The problem with doing all of these things at the moment, is they still come with a lot of pain. I take advil, and it doesn't really help it anymore. It's just a dull pain (sometimes sharp) that I'm coming to live with. And if it comes to it, well I'll just live with it, because what can you do.

However I'd like to try and take a month or so to just completely rest my hands again at this point. As I'm continuing with college in the fall, and I have another job as well that I'm working at, I have to consider what I want to do in the future. I think if I spend another month doing nothing, maybe when I come back and try playing 2 hours a day, the pain will be less. It'll be more manageable and just overall I'll be more equipped to deal with it. If it's not better within a month of no activity, I might try and wait a little longer, or I might just try and live with the pain or I don't really know.

I love being involved in e-sports in some capacity, and I miss it when I'm not. I know I haven't done much lately. And I know I'm always looking towards the future, hoping that sometime I can be involved more and more rather then less and less. For now I'm just going to take this one month or so break and I'll let you know how it goes at the end of it. See, that really was a short blog right?

If you have any questions or comments feel free to let me know,

Sincerely, the guy always talking about his hands.

Taking off a month to rest your hands is a good idea. Having said that, if the advil isn't working and it's still pretty painful, the next step up is usually opioids. Take a look at tylenol #1. I dunno how pharmacies work in the US but up here, you can just ask for tylenol #1 and the pharmacist will give it to you and counsel you on it if its needed. No prescription required and it can possibly help with your pain. Thanks for keeping us up to date and good luck!


hey man, like you I want what is best for sheth and that he gets better, but as a student in pharmacy school, I dont think it is our place to be giving health advice casually and suggesting someone start taking opioids. Especially since we dont know what is causing the pain and what his diagnosis is. Hope you dont feel offended or anything, im not flauting my knowledge (which i dont have any yet) I just feel obligated to comment on this as I am going to be in the medical field somewhere.

Hope the docs figure this out and that you get better soon sheth!
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 08 2014 04:37 GMT
#18
I thought you were going to talk about Liquid`Fluff for some reason.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 08 2014 05:33 GMT
#19
On May 08 2014 06:43 looknohands119 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Taking the pressure off your hands for a little while sounds like a good idea, and might just be the thing that lets you fully recover. I hope your hands feel better!


Blazinghand, your name is uniquely relevant. Shawn, I hope the month off goes well and and that you'll be feeling well enough to after to start playing a bit more. Good luck and I hope work/school goes well in the meantime. <3

P.S. Will you be at MLG? I miss killing/being killed by you in mafia.

Edit: We should also play Hearthstone sometime. :D


I don't think I've played mafia OR hearthstone with you?
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6181 Posts
May 08 2014 11:20 GMT
#20
Nice to hear an update, I've missed watching your streams, they were always incredibly informative. I hope the break will help ^_^
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
May 08 2014 13:10 GMT
#21
Nice to hear from you Sheth, hope you're doing well and I hope you find a more permanent way to solve your pain for good, no one deserves to live like that. I suggest you follow ZombieGrub's advice, sometimes things aren't what they seem. In any case, take care and good luck, hope to see you fighting soon!
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 08 2014 16:39 GMT
#22
On May 08 2014 11:41 FuZZyFroG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 10:47 BigFan wrote:
On May 08 2014 03:42 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
So I just wanted to write a really small blog to just let people know what's going on with me. I'm going to keep it short and to the point. My hands had been improving. (Ha if I had a nickel for every time I said this.) I've started doing 2 or so hours a day of SC2 every day. I even casted with TB on Clan Wars, and for LSC this last weekend. I casted at LSC controlling the mouse (poorly) for a very long period of time, without my hands getting much worse even.

The problem with doing all of these things at the moment, is they still come with a lot of pain. I take advil, and it doesn't really help it anymore. It's just a dull pain (sometimes sharp) that I'm coming to live with. And if it comes to it, well I'll just live with it, because what can you do.

However I'd like to try and take a month or so to just completely rest my hands again at this point. As I'm continuing with college in the fall, and I have another job as well that I'm working at, I have to consider what I want to do in the future. I think if I spend another month doing nothing, maybe when I come back and try playing 2 hours a day, the pain will be less. It'll be more manageable and just overall I'll be more equipped to deal with it. If it's not better within a month of no activity, I might try and wait a little longer, or I might just try and live with the pain or I don't really know.

I love being involved in e-sports in some capacity, and I miss it when I'm not. I know I haven't done much lately. And I know I'm always looking towards the future, hoping that sometime I can be involved more and more rather then less and less. For now I'm just going to take this one month or so break and I'll let you know how it goes at the end of it. See, that really was a short blog right?

If you have any questions or comments feel free to let me know,

Sincerely, the guy always talking about his hands.

Taking off a month to rest your hands is a good idea. Having said that, if the advil isn't working and it's still pretty painful, the next step up is usually opioids. Take a look at tylenol #1. I dunno how pharmacies work in the US but up here, you can just ask for tylenol #1 and the pharmacist will give it to you and counsel you on it if its needed. No prescription required and it can possibly help with your pain. Thanks for keeping us up to date and good luck!


hey man, like you I want what is best for sheth and that he gets better, but as a student in pharmacy school, I dont think it is our place to be giving health advice casually and suggesting someone start taking opioids. Especially since we dont know what is causing the pain and what his diagnosis is. Hope you dont feel offended or anything, im not flauting my knowledge (which i dont have any yet) I just feel obligated to comment on this as I am going to be in the medical field somewhere.

Hope the docs figure this out and that you get better soon sheth!

Well, I'm not saying he should just start it but I was commenting on how it's usually the next option after both tylenol and advil fail and is a possibility. Tylenol 1 only contains 8mg of codeine so it's nowhere near something like morphine or the heavier opioids which have some pretty bad side effects.

Personally, I think he should go to a doctor first to find out the source of pain(he said both dull and sharp so it could be both nociceptive and neuropathic), consider the advil dose (could be he's taking a low one) and then if the pain is still severe (he seems to indicate it is though we need more info), it's a good option for him to try them out after doctor consultation. I don't mind you commenting on my post though, it spurs discussion lol.
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spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
May 08 2014 19:05 GMT
#23
Thanks for the update Sheth, hope to see you more around the scene even if it's side stuff like casting, there's a hole to be filled in the SC2 scene without you being around. Must be something about all that manner and just being an awesome guy.

Also maybe ZG's anecdotal experience helps too.
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
May 08 2014 19:33 GMT
#24
Take as much time as you need! Get all rested and healed up and come back to smashing nerds. You're definitely one of my favorite Zerg's to watch. I can't wait for you to come back to competitive play! (Even if your skill has diminished a bit)
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 09 2014 07:21 GMT
#25
I'm glad esports is still in your heart Sheth.

Hearthstone is always an option!
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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
May 09 2014 09:19 GMT
#26
You don't owe us anything. Maybe I misunderstand but I feel there's an apologetic undertone to your post(s). Your health is all that matters in this. Fingers crossed.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 09 2014 18:10 GMT
#27
Hope it'll all get better, Sheth. Keep it up!
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 20:21:14
May 09 2014 20:20 GMT
#28
Just play protoss

On a serious note though, I hope things get better!
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 10 2014 14:09 GMT
#29
I like you a lot.
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slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
May 11 2014 16:18 GMT
#30
Get well. Hope to see you back on form again soon.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 11 2014 17:36 GMT
#31
I give another vote to hearthstone

would love to see you stream it
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
May 12 2014 06:57 GMT
#32
hope you feel even better!
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 12 2014 13:34 GMT
#33
Makes me happy to see you are streaming every time I see it. Keep up the good work Mr. Sheth.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
May 13 2014 12:47 GMT
#34
I so miss Sheth streaming. Watching world-class zerg play with relaxed, but insightful commentary.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
May 15 2014 05:18 GMT
#35
Hope you well in your recovery Sheth.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 15 2014 05:44 GMT
#36
ugh I have tendinitis on both hands as well.
I feel your pain and frustration
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