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I hate sniffling and i hate listening to the sound of sniffling. Sniffling is used as a temporary method to prevent less than 1 milliliter of nasal fluid from leaking onto the lips and likely, the mouth, where it would normally end up as a result of not wanting it to flow further. Sniffling is a perfectly valid method of fluid control when done once or twice in the process of obtaining a tissue and using it to excrete any pending fluids in order to delay for much longer the mishap of needing to sniffle again.
However, when most persons, whom I have encountered, sniffle, they do it frequently, usually every several seconds and often with a loud snort at the end of it. The cacophony is revolting and is an embodiment of laziness (a tissue is likely less than ten meters away) and a sadistic desire to annoy others. I fail to understand how standing up and walking ten meters to get a tissue and use it is more painstaking than tensing the muscles that are required to inhale with so much force that liquid, in addition to air, is returned to a place from which it will depart shortly. The former is a task that needs to be performed with probably one-tenth to one-hundredth of the frequency of the latter, but persons insist on irritating those nearby.
An even simpler solution would be to take any of the myriad medications that exist to treat the symptoms of whatever causes the seepage from the nose. The argument that the medication treats only the symptoms and not the cause, which is so frequently cited, is completely irrelevant since the symptoms are the palpable entity. Another benefit of this is that these medications induce a state of euphoric stupor that is usually only attainable from controlled substances.
But persons continue to wage the war against acting decently while in the presence of peers and insist only on taking the immediately temporary solution to an easily solved problem. The sniffling that is present in our society embodies a significant portion of why our society is so full of persons who graduate toward decadence and unhealthy levels of dependence.
We are taught as young children about the difference between the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation.
Intrinsic motivation
Intrinsic motivation refers to motivation that is driven by an interest or enjoyment in the task itself, and exists within the individual rather than relying on external pressures or a desire for reward. Intrinsic motivation has been studied since the early 1970s.The phenomenon of intrinsic motivation was first acknowledged within experimental studies of animal behavior. In these studies, it was evident that the organisms would engage in playful and curiosity driven behaviors in the absence of reward. Intrinsic motivation is a natural motivational tendency and is a critical element in cognitive, social, and physical development.[6] Students who are intrinsically motivated are more likely to engage in the task willingly as well as work to improve their skills, which will increase their capabilities.[7] Students are likely to be intrinsically motivated if they:
attribute their educational results to factors under their own control, also known as autonomy
believe they have the skills to be effective agents in reaching their desired goals, also known as self-efficacy beliefs
are interested in mastering a topic, not just in achieving good grades
Extrinsic motivation
Extrinsic motivation refers to the performance of an activity in order to attain an outcome, whether or not that activity is also intrinsically motivated. Extrinsic motivation comes from outside of the individual. Common extrinsic motivations are rewards (for example money or grades) for showing the desired behavior, and the threat of punishment following misbehavior. Competition is in an extrinsic motivator because it encourages the performer to win and to beat others, not simply to enjoy the intrinsic rewards of the activity. A cheering crowd and the desire to win a trophy are also extrinsic incentives.[8]
Well this is really full of idealistic propaganda. Intrinsic motivation is caused by understanding that while a task may not procure tangible benefits in the immediate future, the task may ultimately lead to tangible benefits that are significant enough for the task's perceivable benefit to outweigh the task's perceivable effort required. (Think about a child who is driven by the "interest or enjoyment" of graduate-level physics. Realistically, he understands that under his circumstances, which include the chemical composition of his brain and how they react to stimuli, the graduate-level physics is the best way to survive with utmost enjoyment in his lifetime).
Extrinsic motivation is the opposite; it is the lack of an understanding that while a task may not procure tangible benefits in the immediate future, the task may ultimately lead to tangible benefits that are significant enough for the task's perceivable benefit to outweigh the task's perceivable effort required. It is only understanding the almost immediately perceptible future. (Think about a child who is told to read a graduate-level physics text, but refuses because he will not gain anything within the few minutes after having read the text. Also think that this child has no other skills, and would otherwise be playing video games).
Sniffling is the epitomy of extrinsic motivation because it prevents the nasal fluids for arbitrarily short periods of time. Getting a tissue or taking medication may not be the epitomy of intrinsic motivation, which is so highly valued by our society, but they do lean significantly more heavily toward intrinsic motivation than sniffling.
When considering the parallels between motivation and sniffling, I urge that, on the next occasion on which you feel that a sniffle will suffice to prevent nasal fluids from seeping from your nostrils, you sniffle, but only once (or twice if a box of tissues is far away from where you happen to be), and get a tissue and evacuate the remaining fluids from your nose. Make the earth a better place by reducing the frequency with which you sniffle.
Thank you for taking the time to hear my perspective on sniffling and our society's failings.
+ Show Spoiler [TLDR] +Sniffling is bad and embodies bad characteristics. Please use a tissue next time you want to sniffle.
 
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I'm utterly impressed about your ability to write such a wall of text about snifling xD
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Looking forward to Book 2: Farting.
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HEY
Tissue is not everywhere and it's torture for us too
My cousin and I got allergies in the Thunder Mountain wait line at Disneyland, it was embarrassing enough that I will never forget it!
And you would have yelled at us. ¡Hijole! My cousin on my mom's side did remark on it though, and his little brother started laughing. So probably would not have been much worse...
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Dude I just read more
Thank the gods of CHUPAZI for your good health, k?
I can sit in the restroom using toilet paper for 10 minutes before I am dry, and 20 minutes later be running again. I get thirsty, I get irritable, I would rather not waste the time battling my nose all day
I have tried all the drugs, only Guyfenesin dye free works on good days with a 1200mg dose.
¡Hijole!
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sometimes I'm just way too lazy to find a tissue, fuck that shit
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On February 22 2014 16:00 LuckyFool wrote:
sometimes I'm just way too lazy to find a tissue, fuck that shit
Wha then when you use 30 and still have snot?
WHA THEN
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You must hate me when I get spontaneous nose bleeds and I'm in no position to go to a washroom
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You don't give us any reason to accept your redefinition of extrinsic/intrinsic motivation, but I see plenty of reason to reject it.
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Psychology is a hot topic since it's not a hard science, the DSM-IV is full of ambiguous criteria (must have at least x of 3x very general symptoms that can easily be faked present before age y) due to the many hospitals and clinics that benefit from the excessive diagnosis of something that doctors still do not understand. The Rosenhan experiment is the epitomy of proof against psychology and extrinsic vs intrinsic motivation is created using the same constructs.
A fair assumption to make is that every person is self-serving (source: every economics text ever written). However, a person is only as valuable as a society determines them to be. Therefore, every action maximizes self benefit, with the caveat that the benefit-cost analysis is imperfect. I already quoted the PC/socially accepted/classical definitions of extrinsic vs intrinsic motivation, but they largely ignore the cost-benefit analysis that is incessantly performed for any action. The classically defined extrinsically motivated child seek rewards (with strong implications of occurring within a year and often much less time) and avoiding punishment (again with strong implications of occurring within a year and often much less time). The classically defined intrinsically motivated child seeks to satisfy his "interest and enjoyment" but later they mention "development," "skills," and "capability," which are long term benefits.
A limited cost-benefit analysis, as would be done by an extrinsically motivated person, would show that the work for what is required to procure "development," "skills," and "capability," exceeds the benefit, which is nothing. The long-term cost-benefit analysis, as would be done by an intrinsically motivated person, would show that the same work does not exceed the benefit, which is the "development," "skills," and "capability" that will be used in the future.
If you find this explanation unsatisfactory, please enlighten as to your reasons.
And for the sake of having a better example, two students who have both secured A's in their calculus class. However, the class did not cover taylor series yet and will not be testing on taylor series. Extrinsic student avoids taylor series because the A cannot change. The intrinsic student is not "interested" in taylor series per se, but recognizes the benefit of immediately learning taylor series because it will play a role in the future; the "interest" is only a manifestation of the cost-benefit analysis.
I don't think I fundamentally redefined extrinsic/intrinsic, but used what I thought was more apt language to convey their meanings.
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my nose would run 24/7 for 5 months of summer and then start up again for 5 months of winter. it was hell (and just one of my many sufferings)
now i take 4000ui vitamin D per day and have not had a problem with it for like 2 years
take vitamin D, lots of it (buy online/amazon)
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You must hear how horrendous and drawn-out the sniffling of some culturally distinct people here are, and they do it as if they have not shame.
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I like the first paragraph. It is expository in a scientific way. It really helps my nose hygeine.
You did not cite any of the "symptoms" or the "medications" or their effectiveness.
I am fond of the citation of intrinsic vs extrinsic. I believe it is good to distinguish the two. The irony is that this piece is actually in favour of extrinsic. If you discourage the hygiene practices of others and respond with anger when they fail to meet your standards you force extrinsic nose hygiene practices.
Parents and guardians who force hygiene for the sake of social status of their children do the same. The question is where and how does society draw the line.
The other issue is that there are other social conventiosn caused by similar frustrations. If someone is in a lecture hall, she needs to have planned her day's mucus behavior or violate a similar rule about "moving around" during "important stuff," a rule probably invented and enforced by people, ironically, with a similar attitude as the "anti-snifflers."
I conclude that the problem is much more complex and profound than a simple complaint can remedy. I concede that the information provided in the piece are a fine start to raise an admittedly poignant issue.
second post - you're obviously fairly informed and a good writer but that's not making much sense. Nono, you're only concerning yourself with form but extrinsic vs intrinsic is a matter of essence
here- someone wants to swim to break school record to see his name on the award wall
someone wants to break the record just to see if he can do it
someone wants to fix his snotty nose to impress a girl
someone wants to fix his nose because the sensation annoys him and feels unhygenic.
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Because that's what I want to do in the middle of the professor's lecture, thoroughly blow my nose.
I spend more time sniffling than not because I work in a 10 degree trailer inhaling all kinds of trailer dust every night. Make me a medication for that.
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Sometimes people sniff because they have a dry or tickled nose too though.
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When I have a cold, it doesn't matter what I do, I'll have to sniffle, and sometimes I won't notice. Alternatively I could do the long walk out of the room, blow my nose to provide relief for a couple of minutes, then walk back in having missed part of the lecture, wipe the inside of my nose every 2 minutes from then, but then you might be inconvenienced by the $5 mountain of snotty kleenex or the fact that I have to walk around to discard them in the trashcan.
And I'll still sniffle unconsciously. I'm sick, nobody wins.
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On February 23 2014 00:10 iVLosK! wrote:
Because that's what I want to do in the middle of the professor's lecture, thoroughly blow my nose.
I spend more time sniffling than not because I work in a 10 degree trailer inhaling all kinds of trailer dust every night. Make me a medication for that.
No one cares about that. Your relevance starts and finishes with how much negative sensations your presence inflicts on others. If you were to die from the elements there are some that would take satisfaction in that simply because they wont have to put up with your disgusting sniffling ever again. Other than that your existence brings nothing to the table.
It is their world you simply live in it son.
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If you reduce "interest" to a cost-benefit analysis and link that with motivation, then yes that is a fundamental redefinition of both "interest" as well as motivation. But seeing as you cite economics textbooks to argue for some form of psychological egoism, I can definitely understand why you would want to redefine interest (and intrinsic motivation) in such a way. For the homo economicus, intrinsic motivation doesn't quite factor in anywhere - it's hard to see how it would be possible at all. So if we start with the assumption that the homo economicus is true, then we need a redefinition of intrinsic motivation to fit the calculating rationality of the psychological egoist; something that you have provided.
I think it is good that you are very much aware of the problems that psychology has with its cute diagnostic tools and whatnot, and the resulting ideological fallout that might be caused by uncritically accepting some of the assumptions that go around in that discipline. The distance you take from psychology is something I can definitely relate to, but I think it would be good to keep that kind of critical awareness of the possibility that some disciplines might have serious limitations when engaging not only psychology, but also economics.
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I thoroughly and shamelessly enjoy a vigorous air hanky outdoors. So so good.
If you're indoors and only have 1 tissue or w/e, make it count. Twist that baby up and bung the hole!
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On February 22 2014 20:43 FFGenerations wrote:
my nose would run 24/7 for 5 months of summer and then start up again for 5 months of winter. it was hell (and just one of my many sufferings)
now i take 4000ui vitamin D per day and have not had a problem with it for like 2 years
take vitamin D, lots of it (buy online/amazon)
I appreciate this! Thanks, and I hope it works.
Of course I troll a bit but I do actually have this problem.
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