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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
January 17 2014 11:54 GMT
#61
On January 16 2014 06:40 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
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Most people are really kind.

Ahhhh that's not true!

Totally not true.
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gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
January 19 2014 02:10 GMT
#62
On January 17 2014 16:10 Pangpootata wrote:
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On January 17 2014 11:06 tili wrote:
On January 17 2014 10:32 Pangpootata wrote:
On January 17 2014 04:39 tili wrote:
On January 16 2014 16:34 saltywet wrote:
I'm in china.. I have a friend who is close friends with a female pimp, who knows this 20 year old prostitute who's been in the business for 5-6 years. I was told that 2 years ago the prostitute had her vagina destroyed through sex, she was sent to hospital and nearly died (she can't have kids anymore), and the guy who was supposed to take care of her only (was paying the mortgage on her home) only paid off half of the payment then ran off and disappeared, couldn't be contacted. Her story was pretty tragic, but she became a demon reborn. She's a master at deceiving men now, she was able to trick the men into paying off the rest of the payment on her home AND she basically received money from multiple men that she has two houses now.

So one basic rule when dealing with prostitutes, at least in china, is to never fall in love with one, no matter how genuinely in love they appear to be in with you. Of course, some prostitutes might be genuinely nice but the chances of them being really good at coaxing money off of you is probably higher than the chances of them being nice.



You do realize you are:
a. Blaming a victim for gaming the system after her vagina was destroyed, and
b. giving advice to people who want to use Chinese prostitutes, as if they are the potential victims

........................

God damn it.


a. So you are saying that it is okay for her to exploit other unrelated innocent people because she herself was exploited?

A reasonable person would expect that when one has been the subject of injustice, one would attempt to prevent others from suffering the same. Sadly, most people in the world do not think like that. For example, abused children are much more likely to become child abusers themselves.

b. That guy is just asking people not to fall in love with prostitutes, he never encouraged victimising them. One could treat the relationship purely as a business transaction and accord the prostitute the same respect one gives to a business partner usually.


Yep- I'm saying I have much more empathy for the woman whose body was destroyed than the guys who used their money to buy sex.

He was warning them. Which puts the emphasis on the completely wrong portion of the issue. It's not that people should whore smartly, they should stop creating demand for prostituion.

You are missing the main point of the anecdote. The prostitute, at first genuinely trusting of men, gets her body destroyed and her money cheated. She falsifies genuine affection to dupe lonely men desparate for love into paying off her house. In turn, when they are driven to financial ruin only to be dumped, these men are likely to adopt the attitude that women are just out to cheat men of their money, making them treat women (some of whom are genuinely good people) terribly. The cycle of abuse will continue unless someone wants to stop it.

Demand for prostitution is almost impossible to stem. Because the prevailing system of mate selection is male competition and female choice, there will ultimately be out-competed males who experience a great degree of sexual frustration, thereby creating the demand for prostitution. In fact, scientists have even observed behaviour in apes such as males providing food for females in exchange for sexual favours.

Moreover, it is not the problem here. The real problem is the strong social stigma against prostitution that drives prostitutes to ply their trade under shady and unsafe circumstances. If prostitution can be respected just like every other profession and prostitutes treated cordially like other workers who provide services, such as waitresses, everything would be fine.


It's not necessarily mate competition that drives prostitution. For example, I recently read that 80% of patrons of prostitution in a subject city were married. And famous rich people are known to use prostitution all the time. I think men just like having sex with as many different women as possible and prostitution is an easy way to get the deed done without having fuss over things like dinner, mind games, and the rest of that stuff.

Having said that, I agree that prostitution might as well be legal. I live in Toronto and prostitution is easy and available like going to to the convenience store. You won't find many women walking on the streets flagging down customers though. Most prostitutes advertise either online or in weekly papers. They call themselves 'escorts' of course and 'sex' or 'prostitution' is never printed in them but it's obvious what it is. It's out in the public. Cops know about it, politicians know about, but it's basically unacknowledged in our society. I really think it's better for all involved to be honest.
NeuroticPsychosis
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States322 Posts
January 20 2014 04:50 GMT
#63
This is a ridiculously fascinating discussion. I have nothing of substance to contribute, but I did enjoy reading all the responses
intricate, elaborate, articulate, crystallize, conceptualize, synthesize
Kingsky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore298 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 17:31:45
January 20 2014 17:30 GMT
#64
Its actually better to legalize prostitution then to make it illegal. I think the problem is some people don't accept it as a legitimate way of obtaining income. Many people look down on prostitutes and feel that they are inferior beings. I think that mindset has to change first before the exploitation of them can stop.

I mean should it be recognized as a legitimate job i guess they can form unions and stuff, also its good for keep track of STD/HIV infections as you can make mandatory health checkups for them for the good of society ( prevents STDs from spreading so much)

personally i dont see it EVER happening though =/.

PS : Also another problem is that most girls that enter this market are mostly being exploited by pimps which are related to gangs and stuff.
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#65
Even if it was legal, it wouldn't suddenly change people's minds about it and respect it as a profession. It's the same thing with strippers in the USA, it's legal but still so far from being a respected career.
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
January 22 2014 05:05 GMT
#66
It's not like prostitutes are looking for respect. It literally takes no talent to spread your legs and suck a dick. The only thing appreciable about prostitutes is if they might be good looking. That's basically it. Yeah, some have skills that go above and beyond your average prostitute but they're not skills that are admirable in anyway.

There really is no point in officially 'legalizing' prostitution. There's no money in it for the government. Johns won't be going to brothels because there's a stigma attached to paying for sex. Aside from sex, discretion is also why the system in Toronto works. The government can't regulate it it's way too hard. Guys who pay for sex don't want anyone to know they're doing it. It's the proverbial turn the other cheek.
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