• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:22
CET 09:22
KST 17:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
Terran AddOns placement How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) WardiTV Team League Season 10 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April The Dave Testa Open #11
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
YOUTUBE VIDEO
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2508 users

Dragoon AI strikes again: Second victim TT1

Blogs > thezanursic
Post a Reply
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
January 05 2014 09:54 GMT
#1
Previously

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 10 2013 02:14 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 01:57 thezanursic wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1o2o3d/dragoon_ai_just_stooped_to_a_new_low_bisu_bsports/

This is what Brood war pathing is all about!

[image loading]



Pretty much it.

Thanks to Stratos for bringing us all this Bisu/#BSPORTs content

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=431646


On January 04 2014 14:10 TT1 wrote:
[image loading]

gg


http://en-gb.twitch.tv/tt1/c/3491778

Who's next?

***
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
January 05 2014 10:05 GMT
#2
I personally find it really curious that this is even a thing, must be an FS ramp specific thing. As some of you might not know cordinates on the map actually sometimes effect the behavior of units for some fucking unknown reason.

I believe that somebody on BWMN literally got a PhD based on gas efficiency relative to geyser position and CORDINATES on the map
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 05 2014 10:29 GMT
#3
On January 05 2014 19:05 thezanursic wrote:
I believe that somebody on BWMN literally got a PhD based on gas efficiency relative to geyser position and CORDINATES on the map

Who and when would that have been?
I researched the issue in great detail and presented it on bwmn, but I sure didn't take map coordinates into account. Relative position and race is enough work as it is.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 10:39:46
January 05 2014 10:37 GMT
#4
On January 05 2014 19:29 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 19:05 thezanursic wrote:
I believe that somebody on BWMN literally got a PhD based on gas efficiency relative to geyser position and CORDINATES on the map

Who and when would that have been?
I researched the issue in great detail and presented it on bwmn, but I sure didn't take map coordinates into account. Relative position and race is enough work as it is.

Yeah, well some super hardcore mapmaker in fact did... TT if only I could find the article, it was extremely confusing.

It's possible that I don't remember it correctly, but I'm positively sure that he talked about how certain map tiles + position on the map effect the mining
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 05 2014 13:56 GMT
#5
HAHAHAHA what is this ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
January 05 2014 15:43 GMT
#6
This isn't about Dragoon AI. It's about an error that happens on that particular ramp a lot. It's happened to me as both Zerg and Terran. It always happens with units that are large enough, like archons, ultralisks, siege tanks, and dragoons.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
January 05 2014 17:04 GMT
#7
Evidence that Fighting Spirit is a horrible, horrible map
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 06 2014 23:11 GMT
#8
Are they stuck at that point? or can you get them out with the stop command.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 07 2014 02:44 GMT
#9
TT1 plays with a French BW?!
ॐ
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
January 07 2014 03:20 GMT
#10
Lol there are archons partying with the Dragoons there as well.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
January 07 2014 10:44 GMT
#11
T.,T
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft599
SortOf 204
PiGStarcraft178
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15963
firebathero 2482
GuemChi 2092
Larva 272
ggaemo 218
Pusan 202
ToSsGirL 29
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm129
League of Legends
JimRising 536
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1199
m0e_tv464
Super Smash Bros
Westballz0
Other Games
Mew2King126
Livibee53
RuFF_SC236
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick651
Counter-Strike
PGL291
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 87
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1492
• Jankos957
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
38m
Clem vs Serral
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 38m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6h 38m
Replay Cast
1d
Wardi Open
1d 3h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.