SPL 13-14 Power Rank - Page 2

On December 14 2013 04:17 DiMano wrote:
CJ was meant to be a dark horse (I mean like Atletico Madrid in Spain) who will win coz of well coached young players but when you expect too much from such thing it usually does not work.
You put Samsung with the same situation on 6 place and CJ on 1.
I have the following thoughts on this:
Both has young players who are good online BurNinG - SonGDuri, Bong, Trust - eMotion, Trend
Both has regular players: RorO - herO, Reality - EffOrt, Shine - Hydra
Both has a young championship calibre player: Solar - Sora
If Stork performs well then I say these teams are equal if not then CJ has a small advantage but not 5 places as written here.
Also I would put MVP higher as their roster lineup seems better then IM and KT on paper.

On December 14 2013 05:00 GTPGlitch wrote:



1) Samsung doesn't have coach park

2) Both Songduri and Bong have performed offline previously

3) You forgot about Bunny, Bbyong (another offline performer)

4) Burning, emotion, Solar, and Trend have barely any games against koreans in recent history! Turn and Reality, consistently play against Koreans and get dominated. Shine is pretty good, a lot better than Roro's performance at least, which is pitiful.... Compare that with Bunny, herO, Hydra, Bbyong, and Effort's recent results, along with Sora if you go back to October....

I guess I just don't see how you can compare a team that has been silent for basically the entire offseason except for rookie-ish players that are beating foreigners online to a team that has Coach Park and been performing at offline and online events, with a lot more players facing tougher opposition...

On December 14 2013 00:56 Zealously wrote:


Making Code S and sucking is more impressive than being awesome in Code A and still not cutting it

On December 14 2013 05:39 DiMano wrote:


If you go checking you will see that the only players that did well in qualifiries from CJ were Hydra and herO.
You are right that CJ rookies are more experienced offline but the ZOTAC and Go4SC2 Cup regular final appearances and results like eMotion 2-3 vs jjakji and Trend 3-0 vs Nerchio can not be denied. Symbol and HyuN started the same way good in online then good in team league then individual league.

1) Samsung doesn't have coach park. They have coach Choi from MVP I am not sure so if he coaches them or LoL team.

3) You forgot about Bunny, Bbyong (another offline performer) I did not mention kOp and TurN from KHAN's side.

"Turn and Reality, consistently play against Koreans and get dominated." Check before writting next time, Reality is in Code S.

"a lot more players facing tougher opposition" it is wrong they face same opponents where CJ rookies and KHAN ones showed comparable results.

I do not deny the fact that CJ is stronger on paper but the difference is very small.

On December 14 2013 03:39 StarStruck wrote:
I think you underrate MVP and overrate IM (I think their current line-up is worse than what EG-TL originally sent out) and ohgloriousleadertowinCJPL? Please. They aren't even close to number one.

EG-TL had no where to go but up after that Round, so save the ohgoloriousleadertalk.

On December 14 2013 09:06 Zealously wrote:
God damnit Trap I'm not bumping IM to third place again

let's hope Jin Air signs Dear so I can justify still having them at #3

On December 14 2013 08:47 Dodgin wrote:


The fuck is with this talk? Do people forget that the last time IM played in a team league they won? They also beat MVP in the finals. IM has the same Protoss lineup as when they won GSTL plus Liquid Hero, they lost Losira but trading Losira for Hero is an improvement since Hero has a lot of Proleague experience and he's Protoss.

Squirtle, First, Yonghwa, Hero, that's a good protoss lineup and we all know Protoss dominate PL.

No player on MVP won a tournament in 2013, all they have going for them is team league performance and they couldn't even win at that. That team is washed up. Not as washed up as KT Rolster, but pretty washed up.