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Chon231
United States35 Posts
On August 16 2013 14:41 TotalBiscuit wrote: If I don't have to read retarded shit from you guys then it'll probably be the best thing that's ever happened to me. Oh and it's in mono. Just keep it going buddy, you are really helping yourself out here. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:42 Chon231 wrote: Maybe because you are being a complete dick to everyone involved, swearing at people, calling them hurtful names and just spewing bullshit. [...] Do you get it? No? Ok whatever. You're hopeless. Oh, you mean a complete dick just like you are right now, along with 90% of people in these threads?  | ||
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Eberon
Germany3 Posts
[6:50:52 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: hey genna [6:51:04 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: are you serious putting [6:51:07 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: my private chats with you [6:51:09 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: online [6:51:15 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: where i talk about acers [6:51:16 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: decisions? [6:51:23 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: which never have to be public? [6:51:25 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is crazy [6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law [6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for? Actually, when you look at the "threat" in context, it's less a "I hope you, Genna, can get punished" and more a "I hope one in general can get punished". In other words, he hopes it is illegal to make private chats public without everyones consent. | ||
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lunis
Germany104 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:42 Chon231 wrote: Maybe because you are being a complete dick to everyone involved, swearing at people, calling them hurtful names and just spewing bullshit. Take on the other hand, stated his was angry. No? Ok whatever. You're hopeless. The funny thing is that he always points out how "toxic" communities are when they withhunt or attack public figures because the provide a valueable service, but now he is doing the exact same thing even though he is completly wrong, but he has not the balls to admit it. | ||
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm very curious to know why it's ok for Take to be emotional but it's not ok for Genna or myself to do the same. I guess the double standards shouldn't be surprising by now though. People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:51 jakethesnake wrote: People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene. Pretty much. Nobody gives a shit about the game. All that matters is the drama. | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:29 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote: because being emotional and shit talking people and this community are different things. There was "Fuck take" and "we can talk this out, im still up for it" and you dont see the difference? The only thing you do is create drama and then complain about it like always. yeah, this right here. The responses were 100% different. I don't see how you could call it any other way =/ | ||
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lunis
Germany104 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:51 jakethesnake wrote: People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene. That is absolutly not what is happening here. People already explained what the HUGE difference between the are, but TB will just ignore it so can live in his bubble where he is in the right completly and Take is the one who deserves to be harassed over Twitter. Or could you explain or justify why Take deserves to be insulted publically on TB's Twitter ? | ||
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Chon231
United States35 Posts
On August 16 2013 13:19 F4ble wrote: TB's reaction to someone threatening to legally pursue his wife is absolutely justified. What would you do - NOT support the women you love and is married to? Come on... Despite whatever may be the issue you have to realize that threatening with a lawsuit is a 100% sure way to make enemies. If you expect otherwise then you're not very bright. Wait wait wait...... so if someone has ground for a civil lawsuit against someone for making private information public and they mention legal actions may be needed due to the actions of the party at fault then they are just stupid asshats? Maybe I'm just not bright as you said but maybe when your wife fucks up and does something wrong like this, where potential legal action could be a realistic problem you probably shouldn't verbally attack the other party AND the community that will be devouring every single word put out there. MAYBE you should instead talk to your wife, and decide as a couple that you should step back, shut the fuck up, and let it blow over in two days like you know it will. But instead he just has to pour fucking gasoline on a little tiny fire and turn it into this. TIL If you have a reason to take legal actions against someone and you mention it (on a public forum wasn't the best idea but lets remember who made it all public) you are "not very bright" Logic..... weird.. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:48 Eberon wrote: Actually, when you look at the "threat" in context, it's less a "I hope you, Genna, can get punished" and more a "I hope one in general can get punished". In other words, he hopes it is illegal to make private chats public without everyones consent. In Germany it actually is, it's the same law/set of laws that makes it illegal to record e.g. a phone conversation without consent. ("Persönlichkeitsrecht") | ||
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Radel
United States115 Posts
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:52 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Pretty much. Nobody gives a shit about the game. All that matters is the drama. erm the people who support take, his privacy, and his silent approach to solve the problem are probably not out for drama, and wished all this would never have come to the public... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:56 Broodwurst wrote: In Germany it actually is, it's the same law/set of laws that makes it illegal to record a phone conversation without consent. ("Persönlichkeitsrecht") We have similar laws in the US, but they only cover audio recordings, not written correspondence. There is an implied understand that anything you put in an email or letter can be released or shown to others. That’s why written contracts are preferable to verbal ones. Unless an NDA was signed, I do not believe there would be any legal action that Take could bring against them. Also, they are a US company, so it could be very very costly for him to bring that action. | ||
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Chon231
United States35 Posts
On August 16 2013 13:09 TotalBiscuit wrote: I have always believed shit gets done by being honest and forthright with people and I believe that massively overrides any expectation of "privacy" you might have. Your definition of maturity is irrelevant, it gets nothing done. What in the actual fuck makes you think you can override any humans expectation of privacy because you feel like being honest is more important. What fucking world do you live in? Overrides any expectation of privacy, that is the single dumbest fucking this I have seen anyone say during this entire ordeal. You just became worse than the most fail trolls I have ever seen. | ||
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Fiasko
Germany244 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:51 jakethesnake wrote: People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene. This is SHIT. TB is making him humble himself with his noob comments. And where he is bigger (ok he is bigger) or better than Take I cant see. The Problem is, TB thinks he is BETTER or the BEST. But s.o. has to tell him: YOU ARE NOT! | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 17 2013 00:59 Naphal wrote: erm the people who support take, his privacy, and his silent approach to solve the problem are probably not out for drama, and wished all this would never have come to the public... You can support TaKe without shitting all over important community figures who have done much more for this scene than you ever will. But hey this community shits on literally everyone so I'm not surprised... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 17 2013 01:00 Fiasko wrote: This is SHIT. TB is making him humble himself with his noob comments. And where he is bigger (ok he is bigger) or better than Take I cant see. The Problem is, TB thinks he is BETTER or the BEST. But s.o. has to tell him: YOU ARE NOT! No, this is pretty honest. You will get a lot of internet support if you act like the victim, rather than stick up for yourself. If you say “you were here to help the community, that you love the game and are just doing the best you can”, you will get support. If you are honest and say “I am trying to make a live and stick up for my players, which sometimes means I don’t get along with other this guy” everyone shits on you. | ||
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Eberon
Germany3 Posts
On August 17 2013 01:00 Plansix wrote: We have similar laws in the US, but they only cover audio recordings, not written correspondence. The German law doesn't cover written correspondence either. What Genna did isn't illegal in Germany. What Take could do if he can proof that Acer (or someone else) won't do any business with him due to those chat logs, he could sue Genna for compensation. (But IANAL!) | ||
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Fiasko
Germany244 Posts
On August 17 2013 01:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote: You can support TaKe without shitting all over important community figures who have done much more for this scene than you ever will. But hey this community shits on literally everyone so I'm not surprised... What are you crying for? That your favorite guy gets slaughterd with his own weapons? Which are: Go and denigrate People? Make private things public. Or just write nonsense? | ||
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lunis
Germany104 Posts
On August 17 2013 01:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote: You can support TaKe without shitting all over important community figures who have done much more for this scene than you ever will. But hey this community shits on literally everyone so I'm not surprised... No one is shitting on anyone. Please stop being a delusional fanboy. You still haven't answered how is TB in the right and justified to witchhunt, insult and blame Take publically for all of this. I am eagerly awaiting an explanation. You know what Take did, he manned up and apologised for what he did wrong. You know what TB does, he spouts his hateful and ignorant rants at everyone who does not agree with his childish bevahiour. | ||
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