On August 17 2013 00:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm very curious to know why it's ok for Take to be emotional but it's not ok for Genna or myself to do the same. I guess the double standards shouldn't be surprising by now though.
People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene.
Pretty much. Nobody gives a shit about the game. All that matters is the drama.
erm the people who support take, his privacy, and his silent approach to solve the problem are probably not out for drama, and wished all this would never have come to the public...
You can support TaKe without shitting all over important community figures who have done much more for this scene than you ever will.
But hey this community shits on literally everyone so I'm not surprised...
No one is shitting on anyone. Please stop being a delusional fanboy. You still haven't answered how is TB in the right and justified to witchhunt, insult and blame Take publically for all of this. I am eagerly awaiting an explanation.
You know what Take did, he manned up and apologised for what he did wrong. You know what TB does, he spouts his hateful and ignorant rants at everyone who does not agree with his childish bevahiour.
Makes sense that someone from Germany would call me a fanboy.
I don't care about who is right or wrong. I care about the fact that all of you drama-hungry kids are acting like fucking morons all the time. That's what makes this community so fucking cancerous. Not what happens, but how "the people" react to it.
On August 17 2013 00:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm very curious to know why it's ok for Take to be emotional but it's not ok for Genna or myself to do the same. I guess the double standards shouldn't be surprising by now though.
People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene.
Pretty much. Nobody gives a shit about the game. All that matters is the drama.
erm the people who support take, his privacy, and his silent approach to solve the problem are probably not out for drama, and wished all this would never have come to the public...
You can support TaKe without shitting all over important community figures who have done much more for this scene than you ever will.
But hey this community shits on literally everyone so I'm not surprised...
On August 17 2013 00:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm very curious to know why it's ok for Take to be emotional but it's not ok for Genna or myself to do the same. I guess the double standards shouldn't be surprising by now though.
People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene.
That is absolutly not what is happening here. People already explained what the HUGE difference between the are, but TB will just ignore it so can live in his bubble where he is in the right completly and Take is the one who deserves to be harassed over Twitter. Or could you explain or justify why Take deserves to be insulted publically on TB's Twitter ?
I'm not going to justify someone else's behavoiur and I'm not going to sit here and judge either side. What I'm saying is that people care more about drama and shit than they care about the game. People are in love with being outraged and people don't really care about SC2. Just because people a spat is happening in public doesn't mean we all need to get involved and start taking sides. It's such garbage and benefits no one. The community doesn't help in the slightest in trying to resolve anything between Take and TB. They are both capable of having an argument and dealing with it without our ignorant help.
I'm not defending either side. I'm just saying people love to get wrapped up in any business that happens in public, even when it doesn't involve them - and that helps no one.
EDIT: and this thread is Genna's retirement letter and people can't be decent enough to come here and wish her well as she retires without needing to shit on her and be outraged. People want to make a bigger deal out of this than it ever needs to be and offer crap legal advice to Take or pick a side and trash the other. All of this behaviour is really toxic and unhelpful. Even if people think they are being helpful by being outraged on someone else's behalf.
On August 17 2013 00:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm very curious to know why it's ok for Take to be emotional but it's not ok for Genna or myself to do the same. I guess the double standards shouldn't be surprising by now though.
People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene.
This is SHIT. TB is making him humble himself with his noob comments. And where he is bigger (ok he is bigger) or better than Take I cant see. The Problem is, TB thinks he is BETTER or the BEST. But s.o. has to tell him: YOU ARE NOT!
No, this is pretty honest. You will get a lot of internet support if you act like the victim, rather than stick up for yourself. If you say “you were here to help the community, that you love the game and are just doing the best you can”, you will get support. If you are honest and say “I am trying to make a live and stick up for my players, which sometimes means I don’t get along with other this guy” everyone shits on you.
Thats right. BUT. This is not happenig in this thread!!!! Nobody says "oh poor Take" NO but everybody says to put private things public is SHIT. And so it is. And to defend this Point with the knowing that it was wrong is the silliest Thing TB could do!!! So everybody wishes him to understand that he is wrong. But he cant accept!! (sorry for my poor english)
On August 17 2013 00:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm very curious to know why it's ok for Take to be emotional but it's not ok for Genna or myself to do the same. I guess the double standards shouldn't be surprising by now though.
People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene.
Pretty much. Nobody gives a shit about the game. All that matters is the drama.
erm the people who support take, his privacy, and his silent approach to solve the problem are probably not out for drama, and wished all this would never have come to the public...
You can support TaKe without shitting all over important community figures who have done much more for this scene than you ever will.
But hey this community shits on literally everyone so I'm not surprised...
What has this "he has done so much for the community" to do with it? Can´t say what I think because he is untouchable cause of his great accomplishments ? Is he god and no one has to doubt him ? Aside from that : I see rarely any harsh comments, no one of them nearly as harsh as TBs own words.
On August 17 2013 00:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm very curious to know why it's ok for Take to be emotional but it's not ok for Genna or myself to do the same. I guess the double standards shouldn't be surprising by now though.
People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene.
Pretty much. Nobody gives a shit about the game. All that matters is the drama.
erm the people who support take, his privacy, and his silent approach to solve the problem are probably not out for drama, and wished all this would never have come to the public...
You can support TaKe without shitting all over important community figures who have done much more for this scene than you ever will.
But hey this community shits on literally everyone so I'm not surprised...
No one is shitting on anyone. Please stop being a delusional fanboy. You still haven't answered how is TB in the right and justified to witchhunt, insult and blame Take publically for all of this. I am eagerly awaiting an explanation.
You know what Take did, he manned up and apologised for what he did wrong. You know what TB does, he spouts his hateful and ignorant rants at everyone who does not agree with his childish bevahiour.
Makes sense that someone from Germany would call me a fanboy.
I don't care about who is right or wrong. I care about the fact that all of you drama-hungry kids are acting like fucking morons all the time. That's what makes this community so fucking cancerous. Not what happens, but how "the people" react to it.
I don't even care about Take, I have only seen the third HSC. They way TB and his wife handeled this was absolutly disgusting and dishonest. Also, whose idea was it to drag this out in the open ? Take's ? The communite's ? Or TB and his wife ? You reap what you sow.
And people here really have the audacity to even wonder why guys like Tasteless, Day9, Artosis or who-have-you don't check TL (anymore) and why MLG (among many others) have been so sparse with the intel they give out.
Good grief, why is this still my browser's homepage yet?
On August 17 2013 01:15 Azelja wrote: And people here really have the audacity to even wonder why guys like Tasteless, Day9, Artosis or who-have-you don't check TL (anymore) and why MLG (among many others) have been so sparse with the intel they give out.
On August 17 2013 00:24 TotalBiscuit wrote: I'm very curious to know why it's ok for Take to be emotional but it's not ok for Genna or myself to do the same. I guess the double standards shouldn't be surprising by now though.
People just like the drama and the underdog. If you make yourself look like the humble one being preyed upon by someone bigger and badder than you, everyone will love you. No one cares about who is right and who isn't. They just want to cheer for someone who is easiest to like while they egg other people on and stir up the drama while doing their best to drive people out of the SC2 scene.
Pretty much. Nobody gives a shit about the game. All that matters is the drama.
erm the people who support take, his privacy, and his silent approach to solve the problem are probably not out for drama, and wished all this would never have come to the public...
You can support TaKe without shitting all over important community figures who have done much more for this scene than you ever will.
But hey this community shits on literally everyone so I'm not surprised...
No one is shitting on anyone. Please stop being a delusional fanboy. You still haven't answered how is TB in the right and justified to witchhunt, insult and blame Take publically for all of this. I am eagerly awaiting an explanation.
You know what Take did, he manned up and apologised for what he did wrong. You know what TB does, he spouts his hateful and ignorant rants at everyone who does not agree with his childish bevahiour.
Makes sense that someone from Germany would call me a fanboy.
I don't care about who is right or wrong. I care about the fact that all of you drama-hungry kids are acting like fucking morons all the time. That's what makes this community so fucking cancerous. Not what happens, but how "the people" react to it.
I don't even care about Take, I have only seen the third HSC. They way TB and his wife handeled this was absolutly disgusting and dishonest. Also, whose idea was it to drag this out in the open ? Take's ? The communite's ? Or TB and his wife ? You reap what you sow.
Well TB and his wife have done a lot for the community and their their players, including invest tons of money into the scene. This is a minor issue compaired to all the good stuff they have done. At the end of the day, I don't think it will a huge problem. Just drama of the day.
On August 17 2013 01:15 Azelja wrote: And people here really have the audacity to even wonder why guys like Tasteless, Day9, Artosis or who-have-you don't check TL (anymore) and why MLG (among many others) have been so sparse with the intel they give out.
Good grief, why is this still my browser's homepage yet?
And this is exactly how this whole shitstorm could have been prevented. Just not make anything public. I don't quite get, why it had to be made public in the first place ? Was it supposed to be a smear campaign towards Take ?
people should drop the "but xyz did good stuff in the past", when someone fucks up he fucks up and has to be accountable for it. (thats a general statement for all who are bad at comprehending )
Tbh i liked Total Biscuit before this whole sharade. But after getting to the bottom of the dispute and reading all of his comments here I must say his image took a nosedive in my eyes.
Im amazed at how bad he handled the situation and how blinded he is to see that his wife screwed up royally. Ofcourse you will defend your better half, I got nothing against that, but he goes full aggresive against the majority of the community who didnt happen to take their side and defends that by saying we only know a tiny part of the story. Well than, if you want to call people here retards for having reasonable conclusions on the situation that YOU (or your wife) presented, then at least first fill us in on the blanks and explain why indeed we are retards. Oh and the irony is this whole thing wouldnt have happened if you didnt publish the chatlogs in the first place , but then you complain that we dont know anything.
Because make no mistake, this thing, as it stands now with the limited (or not) story presented, is entirelly a screw up made by your wife. Please explain how its not. Or you can do the thing you like and call me and other retards.
You just DONT publish private chatlogs. You should know better and probably when you cool of a bit from this whole situation as its very personal and thus stressful for you and your wife, you will see that what she did was wrong and inexcusable.
On August 17 2013 01:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Quality people are leaving SC2 eSports in droves for the simple reasons I predicted about months ago. No Money.
The oracle has spoken. He predicted this long ago by making overly broad statements that can be interpreted in almost any fashion, allowing them to be true at almost all time.
On August 17 2013 01:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Quality people are leaving SC2 eSports in droves for the simple reasons I predicted about months ago. No Money.
The oracle has spoken. He predicted this long ago by making overly broad statements that can be interpreted in almost any fashion, allowing them to be true at almost all time.
On August 17 2013 01:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Quality people are leaving SC2 eSports in droves for the simple reasons I predicted about months ago. No Money.
The oracle has spoken. He predicted this long ago by making overly broad statements that can be interpreted in almost any fashion, allowing them to be true at almost all time.
On August 17 2013 01:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Quality people are leaving SC2 eSports in droves for the simple reasons I predicted about months ago. No Money.
The oracle has spoken. He predicted this long ago by making overly broad statements that can be interpreted in almost any fashion, allowing them to be true at almost all time.
it was obvious to any one in the biz. how are the Blue Jays doing? Ovechkin won the Hart. Lawrie is injured again. Carlyle did a great job. My track record is pretty specific and pretty good, but not perfect.
On August 17 2013 01:15 Azelja wrote: And people here really have the audacity to even wonder why guys like Tasteless, Day9, Artosis or who-have-you don't check TL (anymore) and why MLG (among many others) have been so sparse with the intel they give out.
Good grief, why is this still my browser's homepage yet?
Are you saying TB is responsible for Tasteless, Day9 and Artosis withdrawing? Otherwise I don't get your point, as he's the one posting the most toxic content in here, is he not?
Or maybe you're saying that the community constantly posts private conversations with Tasteless, Day9 and Artosis in public without asking for permission?
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