On August 15 2013 11:10 mark05 wrote:
we could do a fundraiser to help ax go ? or too late?
we could do a fundraiser to help ax go ? or too late?
Too late, and most people have already probably volunteered some $ towards MVP.
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On August 15 2013 11:10 mark05 wrote: we could do a fundraiser to help ax go ? or too late? Too late, and most people have already probably volunteered some $ towards MVP. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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UHF
Australia58 Posts
Whilst waiting for a response with more information on the event (ie. timezones, when matches would be played, costs), the qualifier sign-up closed and we missed out on trying to qualify. It was pretty disappointing to be honest. | ||
Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On August 15 2013 11:14 JimmiC wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2013 10:46 TotalBiscuit wrote: On August 15 2013 10:30 JimmiC wrote: On August 15 2013 10:05 TotalBiscuit wrote: On August 15 2013 09:54 JimmiC wrote: "Moral of the Story : When communication fails, there are no winners. " Well put, very professional response and explanation. I feel like you will get very little hate. I do think it would be wise for you to separate TB from the team. He seems good at generating attention. I don't think it's the attention thats good for the team, might grab him some more followers. But I digress. I think your post was excellent, and you lived your sentiment by communicating and not simply flaming those who don't know everything. Better to inform then flame. JimmiC you're an idiot and you did nothing but lie and flame your way through 8 pages of drivel in the other thread, somehow I don't think we're gonna be taking you too seriously. possible fans Oh no, a possible fan is upset, better shut down the entire organisation. I was warned by multiple private messages not feed the troll, even the semi famous narcissist ones. so Gnight Tb, enjoy the overcompensation. It's not going to make anything bigger but if it makes you feel better then its ok with me LOL such a troll You're choosing to leave the discussion because you have nothing important or useful to add, and you try to hide it by throwing around random statements to try and piss people off. It's also better for you to leave now then get your ass totally destroyed if you try to engage in an actual discussion. Just pointing out the obvious here. | ||
banjoetheredskin
United States744 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13378 Posts
On August 15 2013 09:26 anGe wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2013 09:11 Junho.C wrote: On August 15 2013 09:10 Conti wrote: To get some perspective: What does a flight cost from Korea to EU, on average? I think around $1800? More like 1000€ max for a two way trip if you fly with Korean Air. Can be a lot less depending on the company you fly in. 1k Euro is about 1400 USD so not too far off really. Still a lot of money | ||
Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On August 15 2013 10:05 TotalBiscuit wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2013 09:54 JimmiC wrote: "Moral of the Story : When communication fails, there are no winners. " Well put, very professional response and explanation. I feel like you will get very little hate. I do think it would be wise for you to separate TB from the team. He seems good at generating attention. I don't think it's the attention thats good for the team, might grab him some more followers. But I digress. I think your post was excellent, and you lived your sentiment by communicating and not simply flaming those who don't know everything. Better to inform then flame. JimmiC you're an idiot and you did nothing but lie and flame your way through 8 pages of drivel in the other thread, somehow I don't think we're gonna be taking you too seriously. You know, I was debating lobbing some mild criticism at the flame magnet of a title Genna made, but that was done before reading the blog, and, more importantly, before skimming through that thread you mentioned. Read a little bit of JimmiC's comments, too. I gotta admit, that was an ouch moment. Hit me right in the faith for humanity. Mild tangent, but Genna, your PR skills are amazing. When you say things you strike a perfect balance between humility, aggression, logic and openess. I could probably blab on for a while about why what you're doing is so hard, but I should probably just leave it at "You're amazing" so I don't scare off all the forum-goers with a pointless wall of text. | ||
Sacrilege
United States199 Posts
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sAfricanus
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gslavik
United States72 Posts
D) Humans make mistakes. We cannot replicate our process 100% accurately. It will be sad, but life is life. | ||
Erraa93
Australia891 Posts
Both make valid points and can't see a reason to single out someone to blame. Maybe next time | ||
FetusThrower
United States50 Posts
Get better, CranK. And good luck in the future tournaments (Bucharest!), Axiom. Love you guys! | ||
geokilla
Canada8215 Posts
On August 15 2013 11:12 renaissanceMAN wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2013 11:10 mark05 wrote: we could do a fundraiser to help ax go ? or too late? Too late, and most people have already probably volunteered some $ towards MVP. And they deserve it if the community feels that they deserve it. However, I don't think Axiom deserves any money from us/me, simply because TotalBiscuit fired shots at MVP and basically called them beggars. | ||
ratpac
14 Posts
I know laying out details like this probably only brings more pitchforks, but for me personally, it shows a great deal of respect. Thanks again. Edit: Oh yeah, and what happened to Crank? Wrists? | ||
mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Daswollvieh
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
However, my opinion (based on following different eSports scenes for more than a decade, and even attempted at running my own team), is that it is not reasonable to assume that travel expenses to an event you're invited to will be covered by the organisers, unless they explicitly state so. The fact that 'all other team leagues in SC2 do so' is irrelevant considering that there were basically no offline team leagues outside of Korea, and to my knowledge, most European events do not pay for players to fly over to their tournaments. TaKeTV should have sent out that mailshot, but if it was already stated in a Skype conversation with all the team managers, if was included in TaKe's Press Release about the offline finals, and if the other team managers, and all of us spectators were aware of it, you should have been too. I don't blame you for taking the decision that you did when you became aware of the circumstances, but I do believe it was avoidable by not assuming that all travel will be paid for, especially when it is not being organised by a huge company like IGN, MLG or ESL. Eitherway, I'm happy to see Millenium attending, and I wish you all the best for GSTL. | ||
caret-
Finland6 Posts
I believe in that the team sponsor has to pay the trips. Fair for all. | ||
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