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On July 09 2013 04:05 Serejai wrote:
They are. And where is this guy's girlfriend at? You said he came with his girlfriend but don't mention kicking her out. So you're letting her stay? Awkward.
They are and i cant believe he/she openly admitted it lol. I suppose it is the internets, where everyone is anon untill otherwise.
Idk how i feel, on the one hand - fuck that guy he snored.
On the other hand - he actually tried to stop and didnt seem that assholish about it, im sure you could've come to a better arrangement then kicking him out on unfamiliar turf.
Like, he's far from home, nowhere to stay and its not looking good on finding somewhere either.
When u can just buy earplugs 
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You guys can wear earplugs. When you room with other people you will always have to make compromises. Not asking for money upfront is your business but holy shit that is a dick move just kicking someone out when there's no place for them to stay in the surrounding X miles especially if he was depending on you for q place to stay
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If you agree to crash in a room with 4 other people then it's pretty predictable that there will be some noise from people snoring or getting up to go to go to the washroom or coming in and out drunk or whatever. Especially if some of the people are complete strangers. If you are expecting a pristine sleeping experience then get your own room.
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I read over the op again, and I think that overall, you conducted the entire situation very poorly. The random guy made a few mistakes as well. However, the entire issue could have been prevented just from your side alone.
There is no right or wrong on whether or not to kick him out. You have the power to make either decision, and either way would be legal as well. The decision you make is more of a reflection on your personality than anything else. Personally, I share a similar opinion with QuanticHawk and few of the other posters here. You chose to relieve 100% of the consequences on the random guy instead of yourself or finding a compromise. This isn't a very pleasant thing to do, but it's understandable since after a night of no sleep, it's hard to be pleasant.
The first time I roomed with strangers, I made the same mistake in not asking whether or not people snored, or any other conditions that might affect my quality of stay. Consequently, I got no sleep for the entire night, but instead of kicking him out, I found ways to cope with the noise for the rest of the stay. I'm still a positive acquaintance with the guy.
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On July 09 2013 03:56 mainerd wrote:Don't take Hawk's comment too seriously, the guy should have told you that he snored when arranging to room with you, it drives me NUTS to find out the moment they fall asleep (has happened to me twice with coworkers on business trips). Ideally, he should have brought the ear plugs. 
yes, the proper response to not having ear plugs is to boot out a person on a whim, not go get ear plugs, or have them spend the five bucks to do it.
What kind of socially retarded bubble do you people live in?? Good lord.
On July 09 2013 04:45 Aveng3r wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 03:48 QuanticHawk wrote:
the op being too dumb to collect money from a total stranger up front does not make him a bad person in the slightest. it's a lame excuse to make her feel better about herself. if you are worried about getting shafted, either ask for it up front, don't invite strangers. she chose the coward's option I feel like you are missing the point of the article. And I don't see the big problem I wouldn't sacrifice sleep and my experience at the convention so that some random dude (who already kinda pulled a dick move by unexpectedly bringing his gf along..) could just crash with me.
On July 09 2013 02:47 Butterednuts wrote:
The Situation
He told me a few weeks later that he was intending on bringing his new girlfriend along. I told him that she would also have to incur her piece of the rooming expense pie just to make it fair among everyone that was going to be rooming. He said it sounded fair. However, the room that we booked had only 2 double beds (i.e. sleeping room for 4) so someone would have had to sleep on the floor.
That is not unexpectly bringing along the girlfriend. He told the op. The op was too afraid of confrontation to say anything, and took the chickenshit way of absoliving themselves of guilt and responsibility.
you should update your tl;dr to: 'awkward furry dork with no sense of social norms boots person out for snoring because they were too scared to bring up grievences at an earlier time. how big of an asshole am i'
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I don't know whether you made the right decision or not, but I would never kick someone out for snoring. Anyway, please tell you friend he needs to see an otolaryngologist for snoring like that. It is not healthy.
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QuanticHawk, take it down a notch. You're being incredibly rude.
I don't think you should kick someone out for snoring... not matter how obnoxious.
Get earplugs, and even take sleeping supplements if you think that would help...
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geez ppl come down,
OP asked for opinions, not to get shat on.
Yeah its a communication problem. You couldve taken a less drastic course of action but those are your vacations after all he was just ''tagging'' along...
forget about that and have a nice stay.
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OP:
1. First and foremost, you should have made sure you were paid upfront, by everyone. That's most important. You don't need strangers sticking you with the final bill.
2. Once the snorer said he was going to bring his girlfriend, you should have told him that you needed to check to make sure everyone had enough room to sleep/ there were enough beds or cots. A lot of rooms allow for four comfortably on the beds, and possibly one cot for a fifth, but often times you need to make sure extra amenities are available for extra people. (The knowledge to check ahead of time generally comes with experience.) If five was going to be too cramped, then you'd need to tell that guy that only four could fit and three were already confirmed. At that point, it's up to him to decide to be the fourth (without his girlfriend) or to stay with his girlfriend elsewhere (leaving you with three in the room and a larger bill to pay, but that's life).
3. One downside to inviting strangers to stay with you is that you have to put up with all their annoying habits. This includes being messy, being dirty, and snoring. You shouldn't kick out a guest just because you forgot to consider the fact he might snore.
TL;DR- Make sure the snorer and his girlfriend are paying, as it was supposedly established he would. If he refuses to pay, kick his ass out because he's riding you and your friends for a free room. If he and his girlfriend do pay, then you're stuck with them.
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This has to be a joke. No way anyone but the most spoiled brat would kick someone out that they invited along with them. Especially over something like snoring.
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I've gotta say hawk's got a good point even if he's being a bit aggressive with it. He just...kicked that poor sonuvabitch out. It was "only" a communication problem and at this point I'm not sure anything could be done though. Ouch.
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Butterednuts. Teehee. That is all.
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You should've pretended the snoring was a tiger growling and jerked off to it.
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On July 09 2013 05:01 ziggurat wrote:
If you agree to crash in a room with 4 other people then it's pretty predictable that there will be some noise from people snoring or getting up to go to go to the washroom or coming in and out drunk or whatever. Especially if some of the people are complete strangers. If you are expecting a pristine sleeping experience then get your own room.
Exactly...
During dreamhack summer I slept in a 2 person room with 4 more people, three of whom I hadn't met before.
Guess what there was some snoring. I got over it. If I hadn't I would have gotten earphones earplugs or just stuffed some toilet paper into my ears.
Also yah what about that guys gf?
Btw don't take hawk too seriously, that's just the way he is :p
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How long is the convention? It can't be more than a few days, right? Maybe just suck it up; it's not like it's a permanent situation.
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Dear TL, today I learned what a furry convention is (and it sounds really weird to me, but who am I to judge).
About the conflict, I agree with the majority here that kicking somebody out of the room, when it had been previously arranged this way, and during an event where all other hotels are going to be full, is a dick move. Snoring happens, it's not controllable, and it's a risk you should have considered when taking a stranger along. Buy some earplugs/get drunk/deal with it would be my advise. Or at least find the guy alternative accommodation if you are going to kick him out. As it stands now, if he ends up sleeping in the street and something happens to him, you'd probably be liable..
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lol the solution to this is so easy, just drink a shitton with your friend, nothing will wake you, win win. You can't honestly tell someone to go because of his snoring. Also, maybe you're not such a terrible person when you're drunk.
May came around and a furry from the same state as me said he was looking for a room to stay in. I had met him once before and honestly he didn't give me a good first impression but he had a lot of money and I did not. As a means of reducing my rooming expenses, I invited him to come along.
So after booting his ass out for snoring you're sore about your plan for inviting someone along just for the money not working out because you were a total bitch?
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On July 09 2013 07:17 Flicky wrote:
You should've pretended the snoring was a tiger growling and jerked off to it.
You must have some crazy taste in porn.
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On July 09 2013 08:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 07:17 Flicky wrote:
You should've pretended the snoring was a tiger growling and jerked off to it. You must have some crazy taste in porn.
Did you not read the op or what.
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On July 09 2013 08:27 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 08:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On July 09 2013 07:17 Flicky wrote:
You should've pretended the snoring was a tiger growling and jerked off to it. You must have some crazy taste in porn. Did you not read the op or what.
I seriously didnt get the joke until you said this.
lol
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