• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:40
CET 13:40
KST 21:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win
Tourneys
StarCraft2.fi 15th Anniversary Cup RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Let's talk about Metropolis [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Foreign Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1385 users

Starcraft limitations explained (in-universe)

Blogs > targ
Post a Reply
targ
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Malaysia445 Posts
June 07 2013 08:46 GMT
#1
My friends like to watch me play Starcraft, and among the hilarious questions they ask me (why can't overlords attack with their dangling appendages? Why don't dropships have to land to pick units up?) two stood out the most, as they were somewhat logical.

A. When you research the upgrade, how do all the units get it on the field? Why don't they have to come back to base to get the upgrade, kinda like a car being modded?
B. Why is there a supply limit of 200?

After some careful thought, I have came up with answers to these two queries.

Let us immerse ourselves in the Starcraft 2 universe. Are the races fully united? The Terrans are obviously not, the Dominon and Raynor are at loggerheads, while Kel-Moria and some other colonies each have their own ideas as to what to do. Protoss has a bunch of different factions and friction between the light and dark templar, that's why LotV will feature Zeratul trying to make them cooperate, not to mention the Taldarim incident. Even the supposedly monolithic Zerg is not all that monolithic, the Broodmothers follow the strongest entity, which at present is Kerrigan, but they seem to have some rivalry between each other.

Now look at yourself in a custom game. What are you? A Terran commander, Protoss executor or Zerg broodmother. Probably one rather low down the chain of command. Would your boss trust you enough to give you 3/3 upgrades and all special abilities researched right at the start? Would he/she allow you to grow your army without any limitations except how much resources are in your area? Of course not. If you are Terran, you might get strong enough to break off and start your own power group, or worse, join the other factions, and he might get executed. A Protoss might conceivably get over aggressive towards the other tribes (or depending on his leader's wishes, not aggressive enough), while a Broodmother might decide she is strong enough to attempt a coup d'etat or splinter away, they are after all programmed to follow the strongest.

Obviously, even leaders from the same race cannot trust each other fully.

Think of it, if they really wanted you to win the war, would they just give you a mining building and 6 workers at the start? Of course they would give you a large army right? Hence we can see that these skirmishes which we call custom games are really of no impact to the great war between the races, they are just battlegrounds for rank and file commanders (us) to prove our ability and loyalty, and hopefully get promoted.

So coming back to the game, say you are a Terran commander. Your marines actually have the upgrades programmed into their suits and rifles already, but they are not active yet, the combat shields are built into the back of the suit, but are locked into place and cannot be taken out. Once you complete researching the upgrade, the release code is sent to them, enabling them to use upgrades and combat shields. So what is the purpose of the upgrade? The truth is that an emissary from your boss is sitting inside the engineering bay, so when you give him his "processing fees" of 100 minerals and 100 gas, he starts to process your request, which takes up the research time. After he has finished checking your loyalty and filling in the necessary papers, he stamps the paper of approval, upon which the release code is sent out to your armies and they can use the upgrade. This also explains why higher level upgrades are more expensive - obviously the processing fees (bribe) has to be larger for nicer stuff.

The same thing is done for Protoss and Zerg, just via psionics. Basically the "limiter" is just released upon approval.

Once we think of it in this vein, the 200 supply limit is logical: nobody wants their subordinates to get too strong suddenly. Having a supply limit is kinda sensible for Protoss and Terran in a way as they actually have to allocate personnel to their leaders, while for Zerg it makes no sense to have a limit as their soldiers are grown on the spot. The only possible explanation is that Kerrigan doesn't want any individual Broodmother to get too strong and possibly turn rogue.

This logic also explains some other questions about Starcraft.

1. Why do we have to use Ghosts to target nukes into place? Surely Terran technology can shoot missiles to a target location without a Ghost targeting right.
Answer: The Ghosts actually serve as the executive officer to authorize nuclear targeting, as we know they go through Ghost school so they have been brainwashed to be loyal. If you tell them to target Dominion assets they will refuse to comply and will report you in.

2. Why can we only have one Mothership?
Answer: The Protoss are notorious for controlling their superweapons. They had Mothership and Colossus tech all the way back in Starcraft 1 but didn't want to hand it out to commanders. They don't even let you use the purifier cannons on the carriers in game! (maybe for fear you purify a planet that the higher-ups later plan to colonize). Now they have relaxed a little bit, but still limit one executor to one Mothership.

3. Why can't Protoss repair units?
Answer: Protoss bureaucrats are really the most money-grubbing folks in the Korprulu Sector. Everything is already built on Aiur, but they are adamant on receiving payment before warping them over to you. Even when a couple stalkers could mean the difference between life and death for you they WILL NOT SEND THEM WITHOUT PAYMENT. No promissory notes accepted here.
So, do you really buy that a race as advanced as the Protoss cannot repair their units on the field? Obviously its because they don't let Khalai mechanics repair on the field, so that Protoss commanders have to send more money home to buy new machines of war.

4. Why can't we build the Leviathan in single-player?
Answer: If Kerrigan handed it out to everyone it wouldn't be as valuable right?


http://billyfoong.blogspot.com/ my other opinions are here
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
June 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#2
I like the idea of the battles being essentially meaningless, but a good way to test out commanders Reminds me of Dawn of War, where the mineral resource was Requisition, and you gained it through map control. The more areas you controlled, the more important your fight was. There were tens of thousands of wars going on at once, so only a certain amount of resources were given to commanders. All units were brought in from orbit, and you used Requisition to buy it, basically saying "Okay, my war is of decent importance and I haven't bought anything in a while, so give me that super-death squad!"
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
June 07 2013 19:48 GMT
#3
Explain the voice that tells me to make additional pylons.
YO
targ
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Malaysia445 Posts
June 07 2013 19:54 GMT
#4
On June 08 2013 04:48 FrogsAreDogs wrote:
Explain the voice that tells me to make additional pylons.


That's the advisor your boss assigns to you to remind you of stuff you should be doing as a good commander. If you forget too often he makes a report saying your forget pylons all the time and in his opinion do not deserve promotion in the Khala.
http://billyfoong.blogspot.com/ my other opinions are here
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 07 2013 20:13 GMT
#5
On June 08 2013 04:48 FrogsAreDogs wrote:
Explain the voice that tells me to make additional pylons.


He's from HR.

I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 20m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 289
BRAT_OK 81
ProTech21
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38307
Calm 4109
Horang2 2130
GuemChi 1705
Sharp 1080
Soma 912
actioN 536
Light 525
Stork 522
Mini 358
[ Show more ]
Snow 291
Last 287
ZerO 256
Hyuk 253
JYJ 175
Rush 155
Hyun 149
Pusan 107
ToSsGirL 66
PianO 58
910 52
scan(afreeca) 19
Sacsri 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
Noble 13
soO 11
Terrorterran 8
JulyZerg 8
HiyA 8
SilentControl 7
Icarus 6
Dota 2
Gorgc3767
singsing2666
XcaliburYe163
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1866
shoxiejesuss545
x6flipin545
oskar29
Other Games
summit1g8475
B2W.Neo893
crisheroes339
Fuzer 285
Hui .269
RotterdaM187
QueenE32
ZerO(Twitch)1
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 4
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 61
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 30
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 906
• lizZardDota262
League of Legends
• Jankos2470
Upcoming Events
StarCraft2.fi
4h 20m
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
11h 20m
The PondCast
21h 20m
WardiTV 2025
23h 20m
StarCraft2.fi
1d 4h
WardiTV 2025
1d 23h
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
IPSL
3 days
Sziky vs JDConan
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs TBD
herO vs Zoun
[ Show More ]
WardiTV 2025
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Tarson vs DragOn
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Revival: Season 3
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.