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TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 10:50:47
June 05 2013 10:50 GMT
#21
Purely anecdotal but I didn't watch WCS NA after the broadcast where Suppy and Scarlett got eliminated because I lost all interest in the event, I know several people who voted with their feet as well. I think you're underestimating the amount of viewers and hype the event lost by having no North American players remaining.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
June 05 2013 10:55 GMT
#22
isnt it that NA viewers can watch EU games at pretty reasonable times for NA but NA games are at awful times for EU viewers
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33457 Posts
June 05 2013 10:58 GMT
#23
nah man, people like white ppl
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
bumwithagun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States153 Posts
June 05 2013 11:02 GMT
#24
If they were better koreans i would've been more interested. Or if there was a fan favorite foreigner. But tbh the list was just not good enough to get me to watch (whereas I'll stay u- late to watch GSL or wake u- early for WCS EU).
Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 11:15:37
June 05 2013 11:04 GMT
#25
On June 05 2013 19:50 TheButtonmen wrote:
Purely anecdotal but I didn't watch WCS NA after the broadcast where Suppy and Scarlett got eliminated because I lost all interest in the event, I know several people who voted with their feet as well. I think you're underestimating the amount of viewers and hype the event lost by having no North American players remaining.

(Should this be true;) What a sad continent you lot live on. Thank God we don't ruin tournaments like Wimbledon or Roland Garros on our side of the ocean, as soon as there's no English or French competitors left. It's starting to seem best Blizzard stops wasting their money on America.
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
June 05 2013 11:06 GMT
#26
On June 05 2013 19:58 Waxangel wrote:
nah man, people like white ppl


This
_BAR_
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada33 Posts
June 05 2013 11:30 GMT
#27
I considered watching WCS AM (I watched EU and KR) but for me it was not interesting to watch another KR final. I would've tuned in if Suppy or Scarlett were in the finals. I realize that if we want to see the best games it will involve many KR players but I am more interested in who is the best in each region. Part of this is that it is cool to see a regions play style. I find KR to be more mechanical and refined, whereas EU and AM tend to have more unorthodox and less refined play that is heavily based in denying information. I want to cheer on people that come from a similar place and have a similar culture. The draw to watch games with an underdog is quite high to me as well. The only reason I will watch the global event is because TLO and Innovation (not an underdog, but has a cool style) are there. Once they're gone I will be happy with results and won't need to watch the live event.
There is not enough alcohol in this house to make me dance.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 05 2013 11:36 GMT
#28
On June 05 2013 20:06 Khai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 19:58 Waxangel wrote:
nah man, people like white ppl


This



No, people love Korean players. That´s why they watch WCS KR and Proleague with their best competing.
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
June 05 2013 12:07 GMT
#29
I skipped both the EU and NA finals simply because the skill levels were just so weak plus I don't care too much about koreans too scared to play on their home turf.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
June 05 2013 12:19 GMT
#30
Started to watch and left quickly. reasons:

1. I watched ShoutCraft AM and enjoyed the new players, this felt like Code A + a few very good foreigners.

2. Nothing special about the finals, the hype was bad, no crowd, same office with the view. Like watching a 300$ showmatch.

3. Bitterdam are much better at their job then the MLG crew. Axlav has great game knowledge, but Axeltoss does a lot of fake hype with his awkward hand movement and voice. He needs a better partner, that Shampoo guy was very good at it.

4. Timezone issues. Constant breaks with commercials.
I am not good with quotes
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
June 05 2013 12:22 GMT
#31
I know that I'm a bit young compared to the average 25-32 year old demographic that watches Starcraft 2, but another reason I didn't watch was because I still work nights. WCS Europe had their finals conclude about a half hour before my job, whereas I only got to see Snute vs Alicia before I had to go to work.
I completely agree on the lack of live audiences; it's the reason that made me not watch any of the MLG Arenas. The lack of foreign players probably didn't help, but I didn't care about that very much. What I couldn't get over was the idea that America had become a watered down Code A tournament. The Koreans dominated, but none of them are going to be serious competitors to win at the Season Finals. The only players I could call Code S caliber are HerO and Ryung, and I couldn't see either of them getting past the Ro32 anymore with how much deeper the player pool in Korea has gotten.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 05 2013 12:25 GMT
#32
The question should not be why WCS NA lacked viewers, but what MLG can do to attract more.

Factors such as Korean domination and therefore lack of local players is something out of the hand of MLG, as the rules set by blizzard are clear and leave no wriggle room.
Chengakz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States163 Posts
June 05 2013 12:25 GMT
#33
I only watched the Ro8with Moonglade and Snute in it just to see if they could win. Then the finals just cause it was Hero. But it was boring enough that I was actually glad Hero lost the first two maps.

Youre right, you kind of draw hype and excitement when there's a crowd...and also from the excitement of the casters. The casters were good but kind of boring for me in the finals.

The EU finals had a much better storylie..i didnt know who to root for... The dethroned but rightful King of Terran or...a foreigner.
For Aiur!
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
June 05 2013 12:29 GMT
#34
On June 05 2013 20:04 Passion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 19:50 TheButtonmen wrote:
Purely anecdotal but I didn't watch WCS NA after the broadcast where Suppy and Scarlett got eliminated because I lost all interest in the event, I know several people who voted with their feet as well. I think you're underestimating the amount of viewers and hype the event lost by having no North American players remaining.

(Should this be true;) What a sad continent you lot live on. Thank God we don't ruin tournaments like Wimbledon or Roland Garros on our side of the ocean, as soon as there's no English or French competitors left. It's starting to seem best Blizzard stops wasting their money on America.


Yeah that's it. Stop spending their money on America. Oh wait, they aren't spending money on America, they're spending money on Korea three times.

What a sad outlook you have if you can't see that this was set up in a way that caused the Americas to lose interest. Don't blame us for not wanting to watch after our representatives drop out. I'd bet money that most of Jamaica doesn't give a shit about bobsledding when their competitors are no longer in either.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 05 2013 13:07 GMT
#35
I occasionally watched some of the finals weekend but I felt like the skill disparity between HerO and anyone else except Ryung would be too high for it to be truly enjoyable. I watched almost every day of the tournament, though.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 14:00:42
June 05 2013 13:59 GMT
#36
People like watching the best Koreans but won't stick around for the likes of Alicia/Revival/Crank. Basically the lackluster player pool coupled with foreigners still doing badly killed the tournament.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 05 2013 14:07 GMT
#37
On June 05 2013 21:29 Noobity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 20:04 Passion wrote:
On June 05 2013 19:50 TheButtonmen wrote:
Purely anecdotal but I didn't watch WCS NA after the broadcast where Suppy and Scarlett got eliminated because I lost all interest in the event, I know several people who voted with their feet as well. I think you're underestimating the amount of viewers and hype the event lost by having no North American players remaining.

(Should this be true;) What a sad continent you lot live on. Thank God we don't ruin tournaments like Wimbledon or Roland Garros on our side of the ocean, as soon as there's no English or French competitors left. It's starting to seem best Blizzard stops wasting their money on America.


Yeah that's it. Stop spending their money on America. Oh wait, they aren't spending money on America, they're spending money on Korea three times.

What a sad outlook you have if you can't see that this was set up in a way that caused the Americas to lose interest. Don't blame us for not wanting to watch after our representatives drop out. I'd bet money that most of Jamaica doesn't give a shit about bobsledding when their competitors are no longer in either.


Dunno, last time I checked, the prize money of WCS AM was handed out in America (which results in a lot of taxes to the USA).
Melwach
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany176 Posts
June 05 2013 14:29 GMT
#38
I watched parts of the event, but it couldn't really keep me entertained. I think everything has already been stated so far, but:

1. Timezones were not compatible with getting up at 6 am.
2. Many downtimes, not much to keep me interested in the event -> no live audience, not much interest in the players participating, casters were average, (nothing specific to complain about, but they couldn't create fascination for the coming matchups). The view out of the windows was nice though
Come for the culture. Stay for the cultural decline.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 05 2013 14:30 GMT
#39
Agreed with the blog. I did watch the first two games but it wasn't worth it for me to stay up longer, as the hype wasn't there. I loved the crowd at WCS EU and the whole studio set up was great! After that watching WCS AM felt lame and i didn't feel like watching at very late hours.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 15:22:09
June 05 2013 15:12 GMT
#40
You know I've said it so many times in the LR threads & general section that there really is no point saying it again to get across people's thick heads. Okay, three words: regions mean nothing. There's a lot more to it than that, but if you want to dissect what I say look up my own God damn posts and shoot me a PM if you think you can take a good stab at me.

At the end of the day what have we learned? CatZ still has his head stuck up his own ass (see his bit about NASL/IPL or some other shit about the NA scene allowing Koreans to compete). It's the same shit. The people concerned about numbers should be the organizers and not everyone else. This is just another example of "Oh my Gawd, why are the numbers so low; why does this crowd suck?" This is where I tell them to be the crowd. Kind of hard to do when it's in the MLG studio, no? Good thing I meant all events and not just this one. o;

MLG/Blizzard got a ton of shit for how this event was ran (thus they should). There were a lot of variables in play, but you guys really should be mad about the qualifier for being a qualifier. Your angst is once again misdirected.
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