• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:07
CET 19:07
KST 03:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)8Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker7PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)12Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Recent recommended BW games [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Ask and answer stupid questions here! US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ADHD And Gaming Addiction…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2197 users

SHOUTcraft America postmortem - Page 2

Blogs > TotalBiscuit
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
May 23 2013 16:26 GMT
#21
Just thank you anyway I guess, I always enjoyed the tournaments you put together and this one was no exception. Getting to know the players via pre game interviews (+ the occasional hilarious trash talk) was really a cool thing, the games were good overall, and you shouldn't blame yourself for the technical problems, ISPs being crooks is no news and I guess controlling the weather is still out of your reach :>
legofranak
Profile Joined May 2011
United States24 Posts
May 23 2013 16:26 GMT
#22
My only issue was with the timing of the games, which meant my viewership didn't match my excitement for the tournament. I definitely enjoyed it as a whole, though, and really appreciated being able to watch guys that are lesser known and rarely featured in the "big" tournaments. I absolutely hope you guys do a second season, and while the small tournaments took a hit from the centralization by Blizzard, I think the good small tournaments will regain their footing and continue to grow for quite a while.
Three, oh, it's the magic number.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 16:27:22
May 23 2013 16:26 GMT
#23
Nice summary, i really liked it and didnt really mind the downtime all that much. My biggest problem was the observing, but i still enjoyed it a lot. Thanks. I really like the idea of ladder meaning something as well. qxc and drunkenboi hwaiting^^

Hopefully you can find someone to take some of the burden off of you guys and run another one. I heard production is hard and that sirscoots is unemployed^^
iEatWoofers
Profile Joined August 2011
Switzerland108 Posts
May 23 2013 16:30 GMT
#24
Thanks for the honesty TB! Really appreciate it.
I enjoyed SCA a lot (watched every broadcast). If you do another I'd watch again. (The broadcast times were optimal for Europeans, lol)
ChadMann
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia128 Posts
May 23 2013 16:31 GMT
#25
Great stuff mate!! Really solid work that you put into SC2 and eSports. Hats off, sir.

Now for SHOUTcraft Vegemite Edition? for the lads down under?!
#1 ANZ SC2 Team Manager https://twitter.com/ChadMannSC2
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
May 23 2013 16:37 GMT
#26
I was one of those who only watched some of day 1. The stream issues turned me off and I got my SC2 fix from WCS EU, so when Shoutcraft was actually the only tourny going on I simply didnt feel like watching anymore.
Prior to the tournament I thought I would watch more but guess I am one of those who actually do get fed up with SC at a certain point.

I hope, despite all the hickups, there wil be a Shoutcraft in the future as well.
Misacampo
Profile Joined July 2012
167 Posts
May 23 2013 16:38 GMT
#27
It was an amazing event and don't sell yourself short TB, you may not be the most analytical caster out there but I fucking love your casting and it improves the experience for me alot.
Trilandian
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel78 Posts
May 23 2013 16:38 GMT
#28
I salute your efforts, Bains.

I can't really ask you to do this again, considering the immense strain, both mental and financial, it's had on you both, but I can thank you for having done this.

Cheers.
Give me e-sports or give me death!
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
May 23 2013 16:40 GMT
#29
Great event, I hope the next one is more successful.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
May 23 2013 16:40 GMT
#30
I'm just curious how you define competitive with WCS EU? I mean they usually have around 40-60k viewers every day across all streams. You really only came close to that the first day.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
May 23 2013 16:43 GMT
#31
On May 24 2013 01:40 Eury wrote:
I'm just curious how you define competitive with WCS EU? I mean they usually have around 40-60k viewers every day across all streams. You really only came close to that the first day.


That in and of itself can be considered competitive. Close numbers for 1 day is competitive, idk the rest of the numbers but yea..
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
TokO
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway577 Posts
May 23 2013 16:49 GMT
#32
Shoutout to Clutch for awesome player intros!
Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
May 23 2013 16:50 GMT
#33
Thanks guys, hope y'all do this again.
You are everything, I never knew, I always wanted.
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
May 23 2013 16:50 GMT
#34
Great post and your honesty is rly appreciated.
I would love if other organisers would do that once in a while.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
May 23 2013 16:51 GMT
#35
On May 24 2013 01:40 Eury wrote:
I'm just curious how you define competitive with WCS EU? I mean they usually have around 40-60k viewers every day across all streams. You really only came close to that the first day.


I don't think you understand what competitive means.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
May 23 2013 16:56 GMT
#36
Thanks for doing this tournament. SCA is a wonderful concept, and fills a sorely needed gap in the NA scene. I hope you are able to iron out all of your ongoing internet issues, as I think that was probably the worst hiccup for this event, and the one major tech issue you can't personally do much about.

Also, I read the entire post in your delicious voice, obviously.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
May 23 2013 16:57 GMT
#37
Stream issues probably tuned off a lot of viewers, can't help but feel viewership wouldve been much better with that + actual names in the NA scene. Announcement date of the tournament was really late which screwed over some players but it was out of your control from what I heard. Hope there is a second tour though, no rush.
www.twitter.com/rootillusion & www.facebook.com/illusionsc2
Dreadwolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada220 Posts
May 23 2013 16:58 GMT
#38
Such bad luck that shoutcraft was plagued with various issue, but i really liked it and yeah some people want to watched their OWN scene even if its not Innovation vs hisNextVictim. I am canadian, i watch hockey, but when my team is out, im out. I *might* watch the final.. but i might not.

I hope to see an other one eventually but i would understand if there isnt one. You guys took quite a hit moneywise. But with those kind of numbers maybe its possible to attract some sponsorship.
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
May 23 2013 17:01 GMT
#39
Great initiative, good read and I think SCA definitely proved that if WCS had been region locked in a different way it wouldn't have had a negative impact on viewership.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 17:02:02
May 23 2013 17:01 GMT
#40
Great read. I really enjoyed the show despite the problems and love how open Genna and you are about how the tournament was run, why certain decisions were made, etc.
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Grubby 3294
mouzHeroMarine 557
UpATreeSC 100
BRAT_OK 94
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36206
Calm 2826
Rain 2471
Jaedong 1406
Shuttle 1187
Larva 591
Stork 458
Soma 419
Light 361
Rush 312
[ Show more ]
Sharp 136
Mini 125
Zeus 86
Movie 65
Mong 59
Liquid`Ret 55
firebathero 54
sorry 24
Rock 21
Terrorterran 18
Hm[arnc] 16
NaDa 6
Dota 2
Gorgc4901
Dendi493
syndereN293
NeuroSwarm102
Counter-Strike
fl0m1526
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor167
Other Games
hiko918
Beastyqt645
Sick297
DeMusliM191
ArmadaUGS124
Liquid`Hasu114
Mew2King66
Trikslyr57
MindelVK10
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV19
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV335
League of Legends
• TFBlade1778
• Shiphtur435
• imaqtpie208
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 54m
Escore
15h 54m
LiuLi Cup
16h 54m
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
Big Brain Bouts
22h 54m
ByuN vs GgMaChine
Serral vs Jumy
RSL Revival
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 13h
LiuLi Cup
1d 16h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 17h
RSL Revival
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-10
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.