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Daily Ladder-age #2: Base Race

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Sir.Phalanx
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Japan195 Posts
May 10 2013 12:51 GMT
#1
AUGH so the 2nd day I decide to do this I just had to lose humiliatingly to a base race. The biggest regret is that I could have made an extra hidden pylon instead of 1 more stalker, in which case I would have won the game. SO annoyed at myself now that it's all over. Anyhow, I definately learned from the loss.

replay : http://drop.sc/333214

So I started out the game standard, trying to go for a phoenix opening as I usually do. My enemy on the other hand decided to go for a proxy 2gate... Which caught me completely off guard because I was on a 4 spawn map. Really gave me a kick in the balls to remind me, even in multi spawn maps I MUST scout for proxies! Always!

Lost far too much to the zealots, although my MSC definitely saved my ass for a little bit. I decided that my best bet might be to warp in at the enemy base to deal damage to his probes, but I honestly did not expect his full blown all-in to come at me. Also I may have survived longer if I actually kept my MSC alive... it seems to be a recurring concept in my game play.

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still diggin' that DEAD MSC

And so it comes down to a dead heat base race, up until the point that I realize he has a single pylon hidden in the corner of the map. Anyone else may have seen it, but being slightly color-blind I totally missed it until I killed every single building except for it... at which point the race was over. I'm SO annoyed that I lost this game... and will never forget to scout for proxies again. Also when base-racing perhaps I should try turning off map terrain.

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Go to school - Laddder - Sleep - repeat. Who needs a social life anyways.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 17:55:15
May 10 2013 17:54 GMT
#2
You don't really need to scout for 2gate proxies in pvp because of the mothership core. If you go 13 gate 14 gas and get a zealot then MSC then you can hold it off and just run ur probes in a circle. One of the proleague pvps had the toss lose all but 4 of his probes. But because he had a msc and two stalkers he was able to just walk over to the opponents base and kill him.


I would still check your base but if the farther away from your base it is the easier it is to defend. Also delay wg for a stalkers until the threat is dealed with.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Sir.Phalanx
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Japan195 Posts
May 11 2013 02:01 GMT
#3
@MysteryMeat1 that sounds good... never have had the confidence to just hold out with MSC and stalkers, but I guess that if it's possible then I should try to do so. I always am paranoid and scout at 9 but delaying that could also save me some cash. thanks for the tip!
Go to school - Laddder - Sleep - repeat. Who needs a social life anyways.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2013 05:46 GMT
#4
This game i held off a 2gate scouting it really late because the probe came from inside of my base and not from the ramp. http://drop.sc/333383
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
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