• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:08
CEST 20:08
KST 03:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash6[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy11ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1680 users

Daily Ladder-age #2: Base Race

Blogs > Sir.Phalanx
Post a Reply
Sir.Phalanx
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Japan195 Posts
May 10 2013 12:51 GMT
#1
AUGH so the 2nd day I decide to do this I just had to lose humiliatingly to a base race. The biggest regret is that I could have made an extra hidden pylon instead of 1 more stalker, in which case I would have won the game. SO annoyed at myself now that it's all over. Anyhow, I definately learned from the loss.

replay : http://drop.sc/333214

So I started out the game standard, trying to go for a phoenix opening as I usually do. My enemy on the other hand decided to go for a proxy 2gate... Which caught me completely off guard because I was on a 4 spawn map. Really gave me a kick in the balls to remind me, even in multi spawn maps I MUST scout for proxies! Always!

Lost far too much to the zealots, although my MSC definitely saved my ass for a little bit. I decided that my best bet might be to warp in at the enemy base to deal damage to his probes, but I honestly did not expect his full blown all-in to come at me. Also I may have survived longer if I actually kept my MSC alive... it seems to be a recurring concept in my game play.

[image loading]
still diggin' that DEAD MSC

And so it comes down to a dead heat base race, up until the point that I realize he has a single pylon hidden in the corner of the map. Anyone else may have seen it, but being slightly color-blind I totally missed it until I killed every single building except for it... at which point the race was over. I'm SO annoyed that I lost this game... and will never forget to scout for proxies again. Also when base-racing perhaps I should try turning off map terrain.

****
Go to school - Laddder - Sleep - repeat. Who needs a social life anyways.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 17:55:15
May 10 2013 17:54 GMT
#2
You don't really need to scout for 2gate proxies in pvp because of the mothership core. If you go 13 gate 14 gas and get a zealot then MSC then you can hold it off and just run ur probes in a circle. One of the proleague pvps had the toss lose all but 4 of his probes. But because he had a msc and two stalkers he was able to just walk over to the opponents base and kill him.


I would still check your base but if the farther away from your base it is the easier it is to defend. Also delay wg for a stalkers until the threat is dealed with.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Sir.Phalanx
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Japan195 Posts
May 11 2013 02:01 GMT
#3
@MysteryMeat1 that sounds good... never have had the confidence to just hold out with MSC and stalkers, but I guess that if it's possible then I should try to do so. I always am paranoid and scout at 9 but delaying that could also save me some cash. thanks for the tip!
Go to school - Laddder - Sleep - repeat. Who needs a social life anyways.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
May 11 2013 05:46 GMT
#4
This game i held off a 2gate scouting it really late because the probe came from inside of my base and not from the ramp. http://drop.sc/333383
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#46
RotterdaM1044
TKL 428
IndyStarCraft 241
BRAT_OK 139
SteadfastSC136
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1044
TKL 428
IndyStarCraft 241
Hui .156
BRAT_OK 139
SteadfastSC 136
UpATreeSC 92
MindelVK 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3830
ggaemo 266
actioN 259
firebathero 183
Dewaltoss 129
Backho 41
Hyun 38
Shine 27
yabsab 15
GoRush 13
[ Show more ]
910 11
Bale 11
SilentControl 7
Dota 2
BananaSlamJamma294
elazer111
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2164
fl0m1369
byalli275
adren_tv43
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu90
Other Games
Grubby1768
Beastyqt710
ceh9607
crisheroes218
KnowMe178
ProTech113
C9.Mang078
QueenE76
Trikslyr46
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV173
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 41
• Reevou 5
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 33
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3339
• WagamamaTV1359
League of Legends
• Jankos4330
• Nemesis2988
• TFBlade1498
Other Games
• imaqtpie898
• Shiphtur165
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 52m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 52m
Afreeca Starleague
15h 52m
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
PiGosaur Cup
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.