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Best Fucking Thing Ever: Jurassic Park

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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 30 2013 13:47 GMT
#1
Every once in a while, there’s just something we have to tell everyone. We have to say that “THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING THING EVER.” Yes, it’s hyperbolic, but sometimes you just want to gush about how much you love something. Nerds love to talk about what they’re into. This is how I indulge that impulse. Welcome to Best Fucking Thing Ever, a regular segment where I talk about something that’s awesome, regardless of its flaws.

Although I love the current age of media culture (extraordinary technology, lots of superhero movies, a general appreciation for nerdiness), there is one modern fad that is incredibly lackluster: 3D. While innovation in visual technology merits awe and praise, 3D has imposed itself upon the movie-going audience in the form of awful post-production upgrades, uncomfortable and distracting spectacles (especially for those of us that have real glasses), and movie re-releases with added 3D. The 3D re-release is a heavyhanded attempt to cash in on the popularity of a hit* movie by slapping on the typically-terrible 3D “enhancement” as a gimmick to rope fans into purchasing an expensive ticket for a movie they’ve already seen. Many franchises have already gone in this greedy direction: Star Wars (the re-releases were canceled after Episode I‘s box office numbers were low… SHOCKER), Toy Story (slightly more forgivable as a promotion for the excellent Toy Story 3), Monsters Inc. (again, prelude to a sequel, but still…), and Titanic (because of the high demand for Leonardo DeCaprio to leap out of the screen at the audience). Whether or not the re-releases did well at the box office, the executives in such a frenzy to create them don’t seem aware that 3D rarely makes a good movie better or a bad movie good. Instead, Hollywood just seems to want to whore out popular films, and this intended improvement frequently detracts from the films’ original greatness.

* or shit

Then Universal Studios announced that Jurassic Park would be re-released in 3D for the film’s 20th anniversary. Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Today’s Topic: Jurassic Park (3D).

First off, Jurassic Park is an incredible movie already. The pictures I mentioned above pale in comparison to Spielberg and Crichton’s adventure masterpiece. Jurassic Park is exquisite in its simplicity. Here’s the plot: go to island, discover dinosaurs, something goes wrong, run from the dinosaurs that were obviously a terrible idea in the first place (they’re terrifying and massive and supposed to be extinct, how did you think this was going to go?). With many modern movies focusing on complex, subtle, or audience-reflecting enemies (we are our own bad guys!), there’s a refreshing straightforwardness when the baddies are just dinosaurs. Even the good guys lack complexity in the best way. With the exception of Sam Neill, whose identity consists of “I love dinosaurs” and ”I hate kids,” every character is charmingly one-dimensional. They are immaculate archetypes: a hunting-obsessed, overly-serious groundkeeper (complete with outback hat), Hammond “playing God” in his white beard and clothes, and the doomsaying chaos-spokesman, Ian Malcolm. Their Platonic-ideal personalities conflicting amidst the madness of “OH GAWD DINOSAURS” is the human element of the movie’s success. Jurassic Park’s is a well-rounded cast of characters (with good actors to boot) contributing a host of differing and wonderfully cliched viewpoints to the problem of being chased by 65 million year old death reptiles.

In spite of their quality, the story and characters of Jurassic Park are not what make this movie the best fucking thing ever. Its writing is iconic (partially due to its simplicity), featuring oft-referenced and frequently-memed gems like “Hold onto your butts” and “Clever girl.” You can’t watch that movie without those lines sticking in your memories (character’s voice and all). When you hear them repeated, it’s hard not to go back and watch the movie just to see the characters say them again. And so on and so forth in a never-ending loop. Jurassic Park is the Star Fox 64 of movies**, possessing infinitely quotable, extraordinarily memorable dialogue (and Jurassic Park benefits from being genuinely well-written). Then there’s the soundtrack. It’s hard to put the soundtrack into words. The only ones coming to mind are MAJESTIC AS FUCK. Seriously, listen to this:



This is John Williams doing what he does best: sweeping, grandiose tracks that stick in your brain like trashy pop music, except you don’t mind that they’re there. You know, I take it back. The proper words to describe this soundtrack are that this music sounds like dinosaurs. If dinosaurs stomped about the Cretaceous with background music, it would be this soundtrack. The sounds of Jurassic Park are beautiful, massive, and incredibly enjoyable, much like the dinos themselves.

** it must be noted that Star Fox 64 is one of my favorite games of all time

Of course, the best part of Jurassic Park is the dinosaurs. They are the true main characters of the film and everything else is just an opening act. They are adorable and terrifying, awesome and fearsome. They. Look. Real. (don’t give me any of that “they had feathers” shit; this is clearly not about facts). Remember that this movie was made in 1993 and was a pioneer of computer animation in live action films. It still holds up. Some movies that are less than a decade old look like crap now, yet Jurassic Park‘s dinosaurs still can make you jump out of your seat. That’s insane. Furthermore, every scene in Jurassic Park that involves a dinosaur either deepens your adoration for or fear of the immense lizards. Seeing the brachiosaurus herd upon first arriving on the island or the tranquilized Triceratops and her massive droppings makes the impression that the dinosaurs are kindly (if gargantuan) pets. Seeing a Tyrannosaurus Rex in the side mirror or velociraptors invading the kitchen transforms them into vicious monsters from your nightmares (NO WHERE IS SAFE THEY CAN OPEN DOORS). Jurassic Park creates a deep connection between the audience and its prehistoric performers with their (still) realistic portrayals and the incredible scenes in which they appear.

So how could a movie so perfect be improved in a 3D re-release? Shockingly, they made everything look even better. Little of this can be attributed to the 3D itself, but the high definition remastering and return to the big screen does wonders for the 20 year old film. Taking an older movie and giving it the clarity that modern technology allows is a godsend so long as it doesn’t distract from the film’s original look. Jurassic Park 3D does just that, turning a beautiful movie into an even more beautiful movie. Even more essential to Jurassic Park 3D’s impressive quality is a return to the only screens large enough to truly convey the glory of Spielberg’s dinosaurs. I was too young to see the original in theaters, so my mind was blown at how much more intense the film became when everything was three times your size. The icing on top of this dinosaur-filled cake was the 3D accent that emphasized the depth and scale of the Jurassic Park adventure instead of hitting you full in the face. Unlike most 3D remakes, Jurassic Park’s was subtle rather than ostentatious, foregoing the “jump out of the screen” shenanigans (for the most part) to make the distance and size in the movie more visible than ever. At one point, my girlfriend and I were simultaneously annoyed at the people blocking our views during the DNA cartoon sequence before realizing they were the characters on screen. That’s good fucking 3D people. In a world where these re-releases are handled so haphazardly, it’s marvelous to see one that does justice to its incredible predecessor.

Yes, it came out twenty years ago. Yes, you’ve likely seen it. Yes, the tickets might cost more than fifteen bucks. You should still get up right now and go see Jurassic Park 3D. For fans of the film, this 3D and HD theatrical comeback makes the movie even bigger and badder than ever. If you’ve somehow missed this classic until now… well… hold on to your butts. Why see a new and mediocre movie when you can see the Best Fucking Thing Ever instead?


You can check out this post and many more at the N3rd Dimension.

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24637 Posts
April 30 2013 14:32 GMT
#2
I get the flavor from reading this that you at least mildly enjoyed the movie Jurassic Park.

It was good 20 years ago and it is still a classic. However, I don't think it was amazing and I personally have no urge to go see it in 3d. To be fair, I don't have much of an urge to see anything else in 3d either. Also, I don't have much of an urge to go see anything else not in 3d either so I'm probably as biased as you are, except in the other direction (I prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my own home instead of sitting behind tall loud people).
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iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
April 30 2013 14:43 GMT
#3
Some clain that the only real chance for 3d is Adult movies....
Personally i didnt like 3d much (and im talking on IMAX level 3d, not some bearly cared about 3d action movie).

Jurassic Park was good (even by todays standards the special effects are beliveble), but not THAT good.

Im still waiting for the next best thing, and for now, it only seems to be unreal engine 4:





Now that IS awsome :D.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 30 2013 14:44 GMT
#4
On April 30 2013 23:32 micronesia wrote:
I get the flavor from reading this that you at least mildly enjoyed the movie Jurassic Park.

It was good 20 years ago and it is still a classic. However, I don't think it was amazing and I personally have no urge to go see it in 3d. To be fair, I don't have much of an urge to see anything else in 3d either. Also, I don't have much of an urge to go see anything else not in 3d either so I'm probably as biased as you are, except in the other direction (I prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my own home instead of sitting behind tall loud people).


What gave you that idea? =P

I was a mild fan as a kid but rewatched it recently and loved the hell out of it. I mean, this is right up my alley because I love movies like Independence Day and I also love dinosaurs. To me, adventure movies don't get much better than Jurassic Park. It's also really impressive to me not to be underwhelmed by a 3D movie, especially a rerelease.

I'm mean, I'm sure I could be more rational and low-key and honest about this, but that's not the point either. =D
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24637 Posts
April 30 2013 14:48 GMT
#5
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 30 2013 14:56 GMT
#6
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


Because she's 12 (or something)?

I mean, if we were to address it behaviorally, I think "right mind" and "terrified" directly contradict each other, so actions taken in such a state really can't be considered logical. Especially considering her age.

More importantly, most likely, is that it just creates a dramatic moment in the movie, so... movie logic?
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iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
April 30 2013 15:00 GMT
#7
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?



As we all saw the movie its rather obvious for us thats its not a good idea to do that :D.

Personally, if i saw a T rex id be so petrified that i could not move, getting it right by default.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 15:28:44
April 30 2013 15:17 GMT
#8
On April 30 2013 23:32 micronesia wrote:
I get the flavor from reading this that you at least mildly enjoyed the movie Jurassic Park.

It was good 20 years ago and it is still a classic. However, I don't think it was amazing and I personally have no urge to go see it in 3d. To be fair, I don't have much of an urge to see anything else in 3d either. Also, I don't have much of an urge to go see anything else not in 3d either so I'm probably as biased as you are, except in the other direction (I prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my own home instead of sitting behind tall loud people).


You aren't alone. I know a lot of people who cannot stand the gimmick or like dealing with other people while watching movies.

On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


I guess you don't like horror movies. Anyway, those devices are very common regardless of the genre and they have a lot of utility. Whether it be to move the action, separate ourselves from the fictional world, comic relief etc. They all have their purposes.

Anyway, considering I'm very old fashioned when it comes to making movies. I like the fact Spielberg went with robots/puppets opposed to just CGI. I think it also enhances the actor's performance when they have something tangible to work with instead of screens.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 15:24:01
April 30 2013 15:23 GMT
#9
On May 01 2013 00:17 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 23:32 micronesia wrote:
I get the flavor from reading this that you at least mildly enjoyed the movie Jurassic Park.

It was good 20 years ago and it is still a classic. However, I don't think it was amazing and I personally have no urge to go see it in 3d. To be fair, I don't have much of an urge to see anything else in 3d either. Also, I don't have much of an urge to go see anything else not in 3d either so I'm probably as biased as you are, except in the other direction (I prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my own home instead of sitting behind tall loud people).


You aren't alone. I know a lot of people who cannot stand the gimmick or like dealing with other people while watching movies.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


I guess you don't like horror movies. Anyway, those devices are very common regardless of the genre and they have a lot of utility. Whether it be to move the action, separate ourselves from the fictional world, comic relief etc. They all have their purposes.

I consider it bad writing. No, she wouldn't actually do that. I do not believe it.

The movie was still good... it's just a gripe of mine.
On April 30 2013 23:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


Because she's 12 (or something)?
No, I don't buy it.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 30 2013 15:30 GMT
#10
On May 01 2013 00:23 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 00:17 StarStruck wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:32 micronesia wrote:
I get the flavor from reading this that you at least mildly enjoyed the movie Jurassic Park.

It was good 20 years ago and it is still a classic. However, I don't think it was amazing and I personally have no urge to go see it in 3d. To be fair, I don't have much of an urge to see anything else in 3d either. Also, I don't have much of an urge to go see anything else not in 3d either so I'm probably as biased as you are, except in the other direction (I prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my own home instead of sitting behind tall loud people).


You aren't alone. I know a lot of people who cannot stand the gimmick or like dealing with other people while watching movies.

On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


I guess you don't like horror movies. Anyway, those devices are very common regardless of the genre and they have a lot of utility. Whether it be to move the action, separate ourselves from the fictional world, comic relief etc. They all have their purposes.

I consider it bad writing. No, she wouldn't actually do that. I do not believe it.

The movie was still good... it's just a gripe of mine.
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 23:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


Because she's 12 (or something)?
No, I don't buy it.


The thing is it happens all the time in the movies. In some cases, they just want you to go, "Oh my God, I cannot believe s/he just did that" and like I said before it happens in every genre.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24637 Posts
April 30 2013 15:50 GMT
#11
On May 01 2013 00:30 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 00:23 micronesia wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:17 StarStruck wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:32 micronesia wrote:
I get the flavor from reading this that you at least mildly enjoyed the movie Jurassic Park.

It was good 20 years ago and it is still a classic. However, I don't think it was amazing and I personally have no urge to go see it in 3d. To be fair, I don't have much of an urge to see anything else in 3d either. Also, I don't have much of an urge to go see anything else not in 3d either so I'm probably as biased as you are, except in the other direction (I prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my own home instead of sitting behind tall loud people).


You aren't alone. I know a lot of people who cannot stand the gimmick or like dealing with other people while watching movies.

On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


I guess you don't like horror movies. Anyway, those devices are very common regardless of the genre and they have a lot of utility. Whether it be to move the action, separate ourselves from the fictional world, comic relief etc. They all have their purposes.

I consider it bad writing. No, she wouldn't actually do that. I do not believe it.

The movie was still good... it's just a gripe of mine.
On April 30 2013 23:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


Because she's 12 (or something)?
No, I don't buy it.


The thing is it happens all the time in the movies. In some cases, they just want you to go, "Oh my God, I cannot believe s/he just did that" and like I said before it happens in every genre.

And in almost every case, I consider it bad writing. I don't think it's quite as commonplace as you make it sound, though. It doesn't happen in most of the movies I watch... then again I try not to watch bad movies.

Couldn't they have had one of the kids playing with the flashlight prior to the encounter, and in a panic one of them accidentally presses the power button, or some other thing to get the attention of the T-Rex? Why does it have to be someone doing something stupid and nonsensical like shining a flashlight at the T-Rex as though the T-Rex is allergic to light and will run the other way in fear?

I'm okay with people doing stupid stuff sometimes if I find it believable.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 16:04:49
April 30 2013 15:57 GMT
#12
On May 01 2013 00:50 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 00:30 StarStruck wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:23 micronesia wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:17 StarStruck wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:32 micronesia wrote:
I get the flavor from reading this that you at least mildly enjoyed the movie Jurassic Park.

It was good 20 years ago and it is still a classic. However, I don't think it was amazing and I personally have no urge to go see it in 3d. To be fair, I don't have much of an urge to see anything else in 3d either. Also, I don't have much of an urge to go see anything else not in 3d either so I'm probably as biased as you are, except in the other direction (I prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my own home instead of sitting behind tall loud people).


You aren't alone. I know a lot of people who cannot stand the gimmick or like dealing with other people while watching movies.

On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


I guess you don't like horror movies. Anyway, those devices are very common regardless of the genre and they have a lot of utility. Whether it be to move the action, separate ourselves from the fictional world, comic relief etc. They all have their purposes.

I consider it bad writing. No, she wouldn't actually do that. I do not believe it.

The movie was still good... it's just a gripe of mine.
On April 30 2013 23:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


Because she's 12 (or something)?
No, I don't buy it.


The thing is it happens all the time in the movies. In some cases, they just want you to go, "Oh my God, I cannot believe s/he just did that" and like I said before it happens in every genre.

And in almost every case, I consider it bad writing. I don't think it's quite as commonplace as you make it sound, though. It doesn't happen in most of the movies I watch... then again I try not to watch bad movies.

Couldn't they have had one of the kids playing with the flashlight prior to the encounter, and in a panic one of them accidentally presses the power button, or some other thing to get the attention of the T-Rex? Why does it have to be someone doing something stupid and nonsensical like shining a flashlight at the T-Rex as though the T-Rex is allergic to light and will run the other way in fear?

I'm okay with people doing stupid stuff sometimes if I find it believable.


It really is though and I work as a writer/director. How many times has it not been the case? One of the last movies I saw at the theater was the new James Bond film. Did you see it? If you did remember that opening action sequence? None of it made sense to me, but I went with it. Doesn't mean I wasn't laughing and the reason I asked you about horror movies is because it's more prevalent in those movies than anything else. You really have no choice but to suspend your disbelief. It's not just mum to action sequences either. It could be the imitation of dialogue.

How about this. Can you give me a short list of movies you just watched and I'll try to compile moments where someone might go, "Oh my God, I cannot believe they just did that or said that."

As for your last line. That's why we're dealing with fictional worlds. Even if the movie is based on a true story (I always get a laugh out of that one.. heck even my friend did The Strangers after all). Remember we're merely imitating life.
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 30 2013 16:03 GMT
#13
I couldn't agree more with OP. The 3D fad is really pissing me off; it's just there to rake in more cash.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24637 Posts
April 30 2013 16:04 GMT
#14
On May 01 2013 00:57 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 00:50 micronesia wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:30 StarStruck wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:23 micronesia wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:17 StarStruck wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:32 micronesia wrote:
I get the flavor from reading this that you at least mildly enjoyed the movie Jurassic Park.

It was good 20 years ago and it is still a classic. However, I don't think it was amazing and I personally have no urge to go see it in 3d. To be fair, I don't have much of an urge to see anything else in 3d either. Also, I don't have much of an urge to go see anything else not in 3d either so I'm probably as biased as you are, except in the other direction (I prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my own home instead of sitting behind tall loud people).


You aren't alone. I know a lot of people who cannot stand the gimmick or like dealing with other people while watching movies.

On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


I guess you don't like horror movies. Anyway, those devices are very common regardless of the genre and they have a lot of utility. Whether it be to move the action, separate ourselves from the fictional world, comic relief etc. They all have their purposes.

I consider it bad writing. No, she wouldn't actually do that. I do not believe it.

The movie was still good... it's just a gripe of mine.
On April 30 2013 23:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


Because she's 12 (or something)?
No, I don't buy it.


The thing is it happens all the time in the movies. In some cases, they just want you to go, "Oh my God, I cannot believe s/he just did that" and like I said before it happens in every genre.

And in almost every case, I consider it bad writing. I don't think it's quite as commonplace as you make it sound, though. It doesn't happen in most of the movies I watch... then again I try not to watch bad movies.

Couldn't they have had one of the kids playing with the flashlight prior to the encounter, and in a panic one of them accidentally presses the power button, or some other thing to get the attention of the T-Rex? Why does it have to be someone doing something stupid and nonsensical like shining a flashlight at the T-Rex as though the T-Rex is allergic to light and will run the other way in fear?

I'm okay with people doing stupid stuff sometimes if I find it believable.


It really is though and I work as a writer/director. How many times has it not been the case? One of the last movies I saw at the theater was the new James Bond film. Did you see it? If you did remember that opening action sequence? None of it made sense to me, but I went with it. Doesn't mean I wasn't laughing and the reason I asked you about horror movies is because it's more prevalent in those movies than anything else. You really have no choice but to suspend your disbelief. It's not just mum to action sequences either. It could be the imitation of dialogue.

How about this. Can you give me a short list of movies you just watched and I'll try to compile moments where someone might go, "Oh my God, I cannot believe they just did that or said that."

I haven't seen that movie unfortunately.

I think if you are looking for moments like that, you will find them in almost any movie. My only concern is the ones that stand out to me. You know, the ones where you feel like screaming at the screen that the character is doing something that makes no sense. Not like, the character is doing something really dumb... just that the writers did something really dumb. If no moment stood out for me then it doesn't really matter to me whether or not you can find one and point it out to me in hindsight.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 16:08:56
April 30 2013 16:05 GMT
#15
On May 01 2013 01:03 Thor.Rush wrote:
I couldn't agree more with OP. The 3D fad is really pissing me off; it's just there to rake in more cash.


The fat cats are lazy. Welcome to Hollywood where everything old is new again.

On May 01 2013 01:04 micronesia wrote:
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On May 01 2013 00:57 StarStruck wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:50 micronesia wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:30 StarStruck wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:23 micronesia wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:17 StarStruck wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:32 micronesia wrote:
I get the flavor from reading this that you at least mildly enjoyed the movie Jurassic Park.

It was good 20 years ago and it is still a classic. However, I don't think it was amazing and I personally have no urge to go see it in 3d. To be fair, I don't have much of an urge to see anything else in 3d either. Also, I don't have much of an urge to go see anything else not in 3d either so I'm probably as biased as you are, except in the other direction (I prefer to watch movies in the comfort of my own home instead of sitting behind tall loud people).


You aren't alone. I know a lot of people who cannot stand the gimmick or like dealing with other people while watching movies.

On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


I guess you don't like horror movies. Anyway, those devices are very common regardless of the genre and they have a lot of utility. Whether it be to move the action, separate ourselves from the fictional world, comic relief etc. They all have their purposes.

I consider it bad writing. No, she wouldn't actually do that. I do not believe it.

The movie was still good... it's just a gripe of mine.
On April 30 2013 23:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


Because she's 12 (or something)?
No, I don't buy it.


The thing is it happens all the time in the movies. In some cases, they just want you to go, "Oh my God, I cannot believe s/he just did that" and like I said before it happens in every genre.

And in almost every case, I consider it bad writing. I don't think it's quite as commonplace as you make it sound, though. It doesn't happen in most of the movies I watch... then again I try not to watch bad movies.

Couldn't they have had one of the kids playing with the flashlight prior to the encounter, and in a panic one of them accidentally presses the power button, or some other thing to get the attention of the T-Rex? Why does it have to be someone doing something stupid and nonsensical like shining a flashlight at the T-Rex as though the T-Rex is allergic to light and will run the other way in fear?

I'm okay with people doing stupid stuff sometimes if I find it believable.


It really is though and I work as a writer/director. How many times has it not been the case? One of the last movies I saw at the theater was the new James Bond film. Did you see it? If you did remember that opening action sequence? None of it made sense to me, but I went with it. Doesn't mean I wasn't laughing and the reason I asked you about horror movies is because it's more prevalent in those movies than anything else. You really have no choice but to suspend your disbelief. It's not just mum to action sequences either. It could be the imitation of dialogue.

How about this. Can you give me a short list of movies you just watched and I'll try to compile moments where someone might go, "Oh my God, I cannot believe they just did that or said that."

I haven't seen that movie unfortunately.

I think if you are looking for moments like that, you will find them in almost any movie. My only concern is the ones that stand out to me. You know, the ones where you feel like screaming at the screen that the character is doing something that makes no sense. Not like, the character is doing something really dumb... just that the writers did something really dumb. If no moment stood out for me then it doesn't really matter to me whether or not you can find one and point it out to me in hindsight.



Fair enough. That was my point and of course you're only going to be concerned about those ones. The rest floats over everyone else's head.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10825 Posts
April 30 2013 16:11 GMT
#16
i loved jurassic park in 3D. i felt like it was probably one of the movies that benefited the most from a remake. and like you said, i liked how the 3D wasn't in your face, it was more subtle and simply added depth. i hadn't seen the movie since i was a kid so there was a lot of funny dialogue and body language that i didn't pick up on when i was younger. also, i just really love dinosaurs lol
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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1677 Posts
April 30 2013 20:12 GMT
#17
On April 30 2013 23:43 iloveav wrote:
Some clain that the only real chance for 3d is Adult movies....
Personally i didnt like 3d much (and im talking on IMAX level 3d, not some bearly cared about 3d action movie).

Jurassic Park was good (even by todays standards the special effects are beliveble), but not THAT good.

Im still waiting for the next best thing, and for now, it only seems to be unreal engine 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY20pxEQM-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwQ_v_r2-DU

Now that IS awsome :D.

It looks impressive, but in my experience nothing ever, ever lives up to a tech demo, gameplay video, whatever. So I'll remain skeptical on that.

On 3D- I enjoyed Jurassic Park again recently, but I've never seen a film in 3D and don't feel bothered by it in the least. However, I do love those dinosaurs...
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
April 30 2013 21:18 GMT
#18
Oh man, I really wish I could actually watch that movie in 3D, but I am nearly blind in one eye, alas. But, I totally agree with you on the awesomeness of Jurassic Park! Sure, truthfully speaking it's a bit corny and simple, but it's goddamn enjoyable nonetheless, and I've loved the dinosaurs ever since I was a kid. It's the perfect adventure movie.
GenoPsydE
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada88 Posts
April 30 2013 23:03 GMT
#19
I liked the movie but have no desire to see it again in 3D.

On the other hand, the book is amazing and was the first book I read by Michael Crichton (RIP) which encouraged me to read everything else he has written.

Read the book!
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
April 30 2013 23:21 GMT
#20
Micronesia, always the skeptic. I will say that though I was never an enormous fan of the movie, I do appreciate that it has been a classic and has been a culturally important movie. Though that little 12 year old, I have to agree with Micronesia here, is not a clever girl.
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Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
May 01 2013 02:26 GMT
#21
I might be old in today's world, but I personally absolutely HATE high definition. Movies these days are so clear and fluid, it basically looks like a movie set, and makes me lose that illusion of another world. On topic, I haven't seen JP3D, but thought the original was pretty good even with a weak cast.
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RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
May 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#22
On May 01 2013 11:26 Burrfoot wrote:
I might be old in today's world, but I personally absolutely HATE high definition. Movies these days are so clear and fluid, it basically looks like a movie set, and makes me lose that illusion of another world. On topic, I haven't seen JP3D, but thought the original was pretty good even with a weak cast.


Yes, I agree with you. Sometimes, things become "TOO HD" and not fun to watch. I liked watching the original one but like others, I don't have an interest in watching it. Glad someone has a lot of love for it though.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
May 01 2013 04:43 GMT
#23
On April 30 2013 23:48 micronesia wrote:
As a major fan of the movie, could you tell me why the girl takes out the flashlight when the T-Rex walks through the fence? Like, who in their right mind, regardless of how terrified they are, thinks it's a good idea to wave a light in the face of a large monstrous creature?


The great flashlight controversy then went on to consume much of the thread

I'm pretty sure the flashlight thing happens in the book too, I haven't read it in years but whatever. It's just a device to make the rex go after the kids' car instead of Malcolm and Grant. The girl is the younger one in the book and they made her 12 for the movie but still had her act like a 7 year old until the end when she turns into a cool mature haxx0r. I'm pretty sure the rationale for the flashlight is all the power went out and it's dark so she wanted some light, being a hysterical young blond and all.
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