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[Entry no.25] PL broken and mid game problems

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bNoLuck
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Germany125 Posts
April 17 2013 22:03 GMT
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Hey guys!


You are new to this blog or missed the last couple of posts?
If you are new you should check out my first entry in which I explain the concept of this blog.
If you missed the last few entries just go to my blog and check out the missed posts.
You should also make sure to follow our Twitch.tv channel as we are streaming our practices from Sunday to Thursday at 7pm British Time.


Practice was horrible! Oh yeah!
Well no it wasn't. We lost all of our games again. And why? First one was horrible play by us and second one..Well..PL ^.^
We only played one more game after..All pick though. And we lost..Why? First 10 minutes Robin was not there and last 15 Chippy was gone^^
But we were close to winning. And why? PL!


The first game was really horrible. I don't know what's wrong with us at the moment but we just don't concentrate and we are caught out of position all the time.
Misscommunication and demotivation did the rest and so we lost our first game by feeding their Slardar and Bounty Hunter.


I played Clinkz and it actually worked out quite well.
Even though I was in the wrong position several times my overall performance was quite "good" and I feel like I am improving.
Beana and Chippy have a little down at the moment I think (at least that was the case in the first game) and I hope we can solve that problem this week.



Second game was way better already just that my draft did not really work out.
I picked a Puck for me and the laning worked out quite well but after that I just didn't have a huge impact on the game anymore.
For some reason we never managed to really start a team fight and I did not have the balls to initiate into them so I could never really use my dream coil.

I picked a Furion for Chippy and he made great use of it increasing our late game potential a lot (instead of having two supports we had Furion as a jungler).
And THIS was the problem!
I seriously tried to draft late game against PL and Lone Druid..
I mean yeah we had Kunkka so we could more or less deal with the PL illusions but in combination with LD their pushing power in the late game was just too much and we lost eventually.


Again we were not able to make stuff happen early on and let both of the teams execute their plan without disturbing it at all.
We will just have to find a way to practice our early/mid game to get to the late game safely.
So far every game we lost was because of a disadvantage in the mid game because of bad positioning in team fights and feeding.
Our laning in general is not really the problem and if not disturbed by ganks or 5 men pushes we normally come out ahead.

So yeah..If you have any tips how to strengthen our post-laning phase please tell me.


Anway..This is it for today. Thanks for reading and thanks a lot to all of you who follow this blog and encourage me/us to carry on and eventually reach our goal.


NoLuck out!


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