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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 05 2013 10:35 GMT
#1
Hi ya'll

I've been doing my time (mandatory military service) for being born Korean and felt like stopping by and saying hello.

I've barely posted since I enlisted and that's because there's a silly policy that soldiers should refrain from posting things publically and prohibit me from commenting on the military in a negative light. I'm not sure how uptight they (there's a department whose sole task is to find military personnel who say 'inappropriate' things on the internet) are about that but they recently banned soldiers from using facebook in our base so

Those of you who know/remember me, especially from DotA, here I am. Hi! <3 to all
I'm alive and well. Since I'm too narcissistic to commit suicide, there's probably less than a 0.0001% chance I'll die serving my country for those who aren't familiar with what the Korean military is like.

There's a saying in Korean culture that serving in the military is like taking a time machine since you rarely get contact with the outside world and when you get discharged, things have changed more than you think so you feel like a caveman in modern society. The cool thing is I feel like I remember every second and moment of the last 18 months yet... it kind of feels short at the same time.

I started playing LoL last month to see what the hype is about (never really gave it a real shot before). I can see the appeal (it's fun so far tbh) but things that made, MAKE, DotA great are missing.

Anyway I'm kind of short on time so leave comments and questions!

*****
('''(G_G/'''')
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
April 05 2013 10:41 GMT
#2
What's MAKE? Is this a MOBA in Korea? More information would be awesome.

Good luck for the rest of your enlistment!
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 11:05:39
April 05 2013 11:05 GMT
#3
On April 05 2013 19:41 SlowBullets wrote:
What's MAKE? Is this a MOBA in Korea? More information would be awesome.

Good luck for the rest of your enlistment!


He was just talking about Dota, you're reading it wrong haha (ie. he was putting emphasis on the word 'make)
Good stuff Heen, dota2 is looking to be the next (hopefully big) thing in Korea with GOM picking it up and FXO picking up a team.

Hopefully we hear from you again soon
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 05 2013 11:37 GMT
#4
heen hwaiting
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
April 05 2013 11:39 GMT
#5
Will you come back to Dota2?
Karma is a bitch
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 05 2013 11:50 GMT
#6
rabid <3

Sure
Though I'm not sure how competitively I'll play. Even if the Korean community for DotA were to increase tenfold (which still doesn't make it a lot), it'd take at least a year for Koreans to be of any threat in international competitions imo.
('''(G_G/'''')
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
April 05 2013 12:51 GMT
#7
How come Korean play more LoL than Dota?
Rillanon.au
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 12:58:19
April 05 2013 12:58 GMT
#8
Enjoy the rest of your stay in the army, when you're out we'll make a team to win TI4, no big deal.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
April 05 2013 13:07 GMT
#9
Hello Heen, hope to have you back soon :D
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
April 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#10
We're waiting for you hyung.
Korean international team!
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
April 05 2013 13:47 GMT
#11
Welcome back to the dota scene <3 hope you can help it grow in korea, good luck and have fun
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33623 Posts
April 05 2013 14:49 GMT
#12
sup, is the FXO Dota team any good?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 15:28:10
April 05 2013 14:51 GMT
#13
On April 05 2013 21:51 haduken wrote:
How come Korean play more LoL than Dota?

I've put a lot of thought into it and asked around and there's a lot of reasons obviously but here's the short version

- MMR system lets newbies play in peace (newbs got questioned on item prices and kicked in korean dota)
- it's easy to pick up
- godly ping
- doesnt have different servers like dota does (bnet, ggc, etc): less trouble @ pc bang and keeping touch with friends
- koreans love spending money on games
- LOL heroes tend to have more active skills = hero itself is perceived to be more fun to play in solo queue
- koreans like lol graphics apparently
('''(G_G/'''')
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
April 05 2013 14:52 GMT
#14
On April 05 2013 23:49 Waxangel wrote:
sup, is the FXO Dota team any good?

hiyo
I didnt really take a good look at the roster but no Korean team atm can possibly be considered good by international standards to be blunt.
('''(G_G/'''')
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33623 Posts
April 05 2013 14:59 GMT
#15
we should play more BW :o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 15:00:08
April 05 2013 15:00 GMT
#16
On April 05 2013 19:35 Heen wrote:
I've barely posted since I enlisted and that's because there's a silly policy that soldiers should refrain from posting things publically and prohibit me from commenting on the military in a negative light. I'm not sure how uptight they (there's a department whose sole task is to find military personnel who say 'inappropriate' things on the internet) are about that but they recently banned soldiers from using facebook in our base so
It must suck working for NK... oh wait!

You're 75% done... good luck finishing up your tour safely.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
April 05 2013 15:14 GMT
#17
Hello Heen =). Glad to hear you are doing well. Have a good remaining 6 months in service!
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 05 2013 15:25 GMT
#18
Gotta get out of the military and train a Korean team imo.

Good luck! Nice to hear from you.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 05 2013 15:34 GMT
#19
Wait so your just done your military service or still in it? If you got out, consider looking into the korean dota2 scene :D. GomTV is picking it up and teamliquid could sure use some expert ground coverage.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 05 2013 16:05 GMT
#20
On April 06 2013 00:34 NB wrote:
Wait so your just done your military service or still in it? If you got out, consider looking into the korean dota2 scene :D. GomTV is picking it up and teamliquid could sure use some expert ground coverage.


I'm assuming from the thread title that he still has 6 months to go. By then I guess there's good odds the SK Dota 2 server will already be up at least.
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