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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 18 2013 21:09 GMT
#1
SpOiLeRz!1

So I thought that they didn't handle the Narud story very well. A shapeshifter that is Amon's most powerful creation and he's stuck producing a couple of hybrid soldiers for Mengsk. They are all contained, although there are maybe enough of them to take over the facility there, assuming that Narud could rig the facility to allow them to escape. It could be a staging ground in Dominion space for the coming hybrid war and maybe he's gladly using Dominion resources for this purpose, which might be difficult to acquire personally. It could be that he's lying in wait, having completed his mission to cleanse Kerrigan and capture her energy to resurrect Amon, and now simply has nothing better to do than producing a couple of soldiers.

In any case, there is some missed opportunity there. He is not only Narud, he was also Kerrigan's trusted lieutenant Samir Duran and there is not even an acknowledgement of this fact in the game. He is a shapeshifter, yet the only time he uses this ability is to taunt Kerrigan in his death scene. He doesn't need to be in his Dr. Narud form full-time, it's easy enough to have the Dominion continue to produce after he has shown them the procedure and then manage them in absence. Why isn't he off undercover somewhere to have all the fans guessing about his whereabouts and what character he could be?

I had a story idea that would be somewhat bizarre for the Starcraft 2 setting, but I thought it was funny. Basically, there would be a number of characters that Kerrigan came into contact with and they would all turn out to be this shapeshifter. And if Kerrigan would ever visit the home base of one of them the resident people there would say something unassuming like: "yeah, he hasn't been around a lot recently", which would be because he is off somewhere impersonating someone else, but Kerrigan and the audience need not catch on right away.

In any case, he didn't really display a high level of intelligence and initiative compared to his role in Brood War, where he took personal action. He did order Jim Raynor around for most of the WoL campaign, but clearly it's impossible to be certain that Jim Raynor would succeed in all of his endeavors, so for me it resembles a Gambit Roulette a bit too much.

Also, I suppose that Amon and other Xel Naga are going to look mostly like Narud's real form?

Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Escuche
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
60 Posts
March 18 2013 22:09 GMT
#2
What I gathered from that whole thing was that Narud tricked Raynor into assembling the artifact to re-humanize Kerrigan so he could take all her energy and turn it towards reviving Amon. Then I assume he traded Mengsk the artifact in exchange for the facilities necessary to create hybrids. Which is strange, because in both Brood War and WoL, there are scenes of hybrids being created before Narud has access to Mengsk's facilities. As Duran, he seemed to be getting along just fine on his own. And Raynor stumbled across the Dominion facility creating hybrids, which seemed to be independent of Narud's process. And yes, it was very weird that Kerrigan made no acknowledgement that Duran and Narud are the same person, especially since Stukov was the one feeding her all the information about Narud, and he himself was killed due to Duran's betrayal.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 04:27:39
March 19 2013 04:26 GMT
#3
Yeah he took on more of a typical villain role in HotS, whereas in BW he was much more of a cunning tactician and manipulator, which was cool to see. I would have liked if his role were a bit more complex too, but it was still pretty good overall.

One can only imagine that he wanted to keep some things secret from the Dominion, and wanted to be in charge for that reason (maybe the hidden capability for hybrids to start working for Duran and not Mengsk). He also probably realized, that with the dominion's (misguided) help to create their own army of hybrids, he would be able to create a much larger army than he could ever create alone, although he did manage fairly well on his own as we know. Maybe he was even trying to improve on the hybrid in some way, which he needs resources and a large facility to do...who knows I suppose.

In any event, that way Amon would be assured even more control over the Terran sector when he returns. I imagine the endgame is going to be some kind of united front between all the armies. Maybe there will even be a terran, zerg, protoss super-hybrid used to fight Amon, or just an old fashioned peace treaty between all races to fight the common enemy. Well whatever the case is I trust Blizzard to put on a good show
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