• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:07
CEST 15:07
KST 22:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes102BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL20 General Discussion ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D Soulkey on ASL S20 NaDa's Body
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2035 users

[BW] The Death of Telecom (Battlereport in HD!)

Blogs > Birdie
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 02:20:31
February 20 2013 21:59 GMT
#1
+ Show Spoiler +

The player I played against says he's Telecom; eSpi.EvertOss was his ID, his bnet profile checks out. Here's his iCCup profile: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/espi.evertoss.html
However, it might not be him; could be someone pretending to be him for whatever reason?
He's known as GGZerG on these forums.


The day dawned, and a few hours later I rose from my slumber, ready to face another day. The time was approximately 9am NZST, and I hopped onto iCCup ready to face the horde of Protoss opponents that were ready to prevent my rise to fame. Now, my game of life required me to practice some Brood War before I could get any rewards, such as playing a DotA-style map I enjoy called Temple Siege. With the D Ranks Team League 4 coming up fast, I had to get into tip top shape. After playing a game against a charming fellow who appeared to be as high as a bird, giving me a large quantity of nonsense about eating cookies in one mouthful, while he 4gated me and died to mass lings, I mused on the lack of the iCCup ranking system. Nomming away on my muesli as I played, I finished up and hopped back into the op Teamliquid channel, my home away from home.

Someone called eSpi.EvertOss sent me a "hi" to which I responded in a friendly manner, "hi" back to him. Now, this person and I had a short chat the previous day, in which he informed me he was Telecom, aka GGzerG. Now, Telecom is someone of (dis?)repute in the SCBW world, as he was part of many famous Korean clans, allegedly. So presumably he was extremely gosu; I had asked him for some advice which he gave me, and it seemed reasonable enough. Today, however, he challenged me to mortal kombat!



I hosted Wind and Cloud, one of the more recent additions to the iCCup map pack, and a very nice map created by Rose.Of.Dream. He wasn't familiar with the map, but I informed him that the naturals were vertical, either above or below the main base, and as there is very little non-standard on the map, we proceeded to play. He, of course, played as Protoss, while I am the mighty Zerg!
+ Show Spoiler +

I spawned in the bottom right corner, while he was in the bottom left corner.
[image loading]

I opened with an overpool into 11hatch. I sent my overlords to scout and a crossmap drone to see if he was there, which he was not. I concluded he had to be at the bottm left of the map, and as I had a pair of zerglings on the way, I sent my drone immediately to the top right natural to place my third hatch. My timings were looking good, until I forgot my overlord at 16. Oh well, 18 is a higher number than 16 so it must be better!~ (yeah that drone isn't mining >.>)
[image loading]

We noticed that there were a few lag spikes, but it was quite playable as long as the lag spikes didn't happen at crucial moments, so we carried on.

I killed his scouting probe with my gosu ling placement on the ramp, as I started my fourth and fifth hatcheries. My timings weren't perfect but he didn't seem to be sending zealots to harass just yet so I was fine.
[image loading]

...or was I...
[image loading]

his 2 zealots harassing my third gave me some pause but I made a few zerglings and killed his zealots, so they only managed 2-3 drone kills and a couple of zergling kills. Still, at this stage that's useful harass for him. Anyway, I had my hydralisk den and evo chamber up, and my second gas. Lair had completed and my spire was on the way, along with zergling speed.

He started his third base up, while harassing my third again with some zealots and dark templar. But I was well prepared, with my simcity up to scratch (practiced that with the lovely sB.icedraco, thanks my friend!)
[image loading]
I knew his third would be going down at about this time, so I started mass hydralisk production as I took my fourth, and sent them to take out his third. I took out most of the cannons, but...
[image loading]

...most of his probes ran away and the Nexus remained standing after all that work.
[image loading]

I continued to harass, taking out several corsair with a fleet of scourge, and killing yet more units, but his storms and dark templar drove me away.
[image loading]

My persistance did not go unrewarded! Finally I was able to take down his third. He had already started preparing for his fourth base, but my scouting zergling took down his probe and I was suddenly in a strong position! I threw down two more hatcheries at my fourth in celebration. The kegs of beer would be opened tonight!
[image loading]

But he destroyed all my lurkers And my hydralisks ((
[image loading]

One of my hydralisks found his top left base he was making, so my massive new army of hydralisks went up there to kill it, which they did quite easily. However, his reflexes were sharp and he caught my army before they were able to get down from the high ground. Storm blender ;(
[image loading]
That's 40+ hydralisk bodies right there. Rest in peace, my brothers.

Here's the reason I wasn't able to micromanage those hydralisks: A counterattack to his natural! Didn't do much damage, but one of my current goals is to multitask effectively, so I was happy that I pulled it off while denying his fourth. I also took my fifth base at this time.
[image loading]

yaaaa plaguuu! That's my other objective in this game: use plague. I'm very bad at using it but it's so useful vs protoss particularly. So at least I got off one plague in the entire game. However, he still has a massive supply lead and I just lost my entire army...I'm somewhat dubious as to my chances of success at this stage. Still, I have 9 hatcheries! Anything can happen.
[image loading]

He seemed content to sit back and probe up with his two new bases at the top left, which he desperately needed. He was very good at keeping his minerals low compared to me, but soon he had a maxed out army.
[image loading]
He kills my base, and my army. But meanwhile...

MULTITASK! Double lurker drop at his two new bases, denying all his mining! And killing most of his probes. It's super effective! I lost a base, he lost two, for a while at least.
[image loading]

I scrounged up a massive army, and while I dropped four lurkers and a control group of cracklings in his main, I also engaged his massive army with mine! Ultralisks pretty good yo! He cleaned up my drop very quickly though, nice reflexes. But I cleaned up his entire army!
[image loading]

With my suddenly strong position, I kill his third (again) and his fourth, with swarm and ultraWINsks!
[image loading]

Apparently I'm trash. Except I'm from New Zealand, so it's rubbish, not trash. And some rubbish just smashed Telecom without difficulty, in the first long game I've had in 2-3 months, in ZvP, my weakest matchup. And I'm a D+ noob who's been playing 1v1 BW for less than a year.
[image loading]

He then proceeded to ragequit, and gave me some charming whispers later:
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]

Here's the replay for anyone else who wants it. http://www.mediafire.com/?5g1i58h47zlsz1a


I couldn't have done this without the help of my coaches, NinaZerg and TechnicS. Also, shoutout to sB.icedraco again for helping me set up good simcities on this map when we practiced previously, and the entire Stealth Bunnies team for being awesome and practicing with me lots. If I forgot to thank anyone, I apologize.
Telecom's asked me for a rematch. I will certainly consider it.

*****
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
February 20 2013 22:01 GMT
#2
5/5 would read again.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 20 2013 22:14 GMT
#3
I actually ventured into op eSpi last night, because I was having difficultly finding games on Ladder C (It was really well-populated, just everyone was C- or B- at that time xP) and saw a [t3] hanging out in that channel. "Hm, weird." I thought, because eSpi is a Peruvian clan. I guess it makes sense now!

I would like to see you be a bit more greedy with taking that 4th base, just in case you can't deny the Protoss third base. Normally, noob players can't defend it because they become easily overwhelmed by a lot of incoming units, but the whole Protoss mid-game revolves around taking and holding their third, so a good toss won't let you deny it so easily. Once you get to better multi-tasking, you can do a zergling run-by and do some damage to the interior of the protoss base and put them behind, and then once they go to take their third, you'll be ahead enough to make it impossible. But please, don't rush to pump hydras just for the possibility of denying their third base.

GENERALLY, a good rule to follow is to deny the third with zerglings if possible, but if not, there's no need to commit a group or two of units to attack that will just die to high templar. On Wind and Cloud, it's a bit easier to deny their third because it sits on the low ground.

Nevertheless, good game, nice work!
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 23:14:12
February 20 2013 23:08 GMT
#4
why do we give telecom so much attention

also his go-to insult of "noname trash" seems to be spot on for telecom, its 99% him

how does someone who's supposedly C+ even lose to a D+ player anyways
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
February 20 2013 23:32 GMT
#5
Can't 5/5 this enough. The situation in itself deserves it, but the battle report is also very well done and the game is entertaining. I have no doubt you will reach C- really soon
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
February 20 2013 23:38 GMT
#6
This ... this is what life is all about, savor the moment Birdie, savor it.
BW for life !
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10196 Posts
February 20 2013 23:53 GMT
#7
HE DAH SO MAD!

hey telecom, umad?

5/5 xD
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 23:55:23
February 20 2013 23:55 GMT
#8
rofl, Telecom is so mad.

Mad cuz bad imo

Edit: inb4 he grudgematches you
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28689 Posts
February 20 2013 23:57 GMT
#9
better to be hated than ignored I guess
Moderator
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
February 21 2013 00:00 GMT
#10
On February 21 2013 08:57 Liquid`Drone wrote:
better to be hated than ignored I guess

Hence your sig ? :p
I don't think it's hate though, it has more to do with ridicule.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
February 21 2013 00:11 GMT
#11
lololo

5 stars aren't enough
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
icedraco
Profile Joined June 2012
Philippines118 Posts
February 21 2013 00:42 GMT
#12
well played birdie!!
fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
February 21 2013 00:46 GMT
#13
Birdie can you attach the replay?
t.t
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3130 Posts
February 21 2013 01:08 GMT
#14
telecom is a narcissist
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 21 2013 01:11 GMT
#15
On February 21 2013 10:08 puppykiller wrote:
telecom is a narcissist


It's obvious that you're jealous, as you have not been in any pro Korean clans, such as Ever).
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 21 2013 01:17 GMT
#16
Poll: Who should cast the grudgematch, once it is requested?

A potato (12)
 
48%

SirJolt casting broken replays (5)
 
20%

Anyone besides Game (3)
 
12%

Puppykiller as Hitler (2)
 
8%

Yoda <- added so GeckoXp can vote for him (2)
 
8%

Randomko_Orean (1)
 
4%

Pucca (0)
 
0%

Shotcoder + Nina (0)
 
0%

mca64 (0)
 
0%

25 total votes

Your vote: Who should cast the grudgematch, once it is requested?

(Vote): Pucca
(Vote): Puppykiller as Hitler
(Vote): Shotcoder + Nina
(Vote): Randomko_Orean
(Vote): SirJolt casting broken replays
(Vote): Anyone besides Game
(Vote): A potato
(Vote): mca64
(Vote): Yoda <- added so GeckoXp can vote for him


"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 21 2013 01:28 GMT
#17
On February 21 2013 10:08 puppykiller wrote:
telecom is a narcissist


lol
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
February 21 2013 02:06 GMT
#18
telecom so gosu
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
February 21 2013 02:20 GMT
#19
On February 21 2013 09:46 fold wrote:
Birdie can you attach the replay?

Why certainly! http://www.mediafire.com/?5g1i58h47zlsz1a
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 21 2013 02:54 GMT
#20
Presumably Telecom will eventually read/respond to this.

If so, I have a serious question for you Joey. Unlike alot of the community I have no history with you, and no reason to dislike you. In fact, from what I have seen you've made some efforts to do good things for the community as well.

I've read before posts from you where you lament the fact that the community dislikes you and that you are vilified. The question then, is why do you do stuff like this?

You ask him for a game, and then he wins. Then you proceed to flame him for like 30+ messages. He did not BM you, he didn't insult you, he won a starcraft game (maybe he even got lucky to do so). Your response makes no sense. Why on earth would you act that way. If this is normal behavior you (note: I'm NOT saying it is), then it is obvious why people hate on you so much; and you should probably stop complaining until you can act like a normal person.

If this isn't typical behavior for you, then why did you act this way?
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Map Test Tournament
11:00
$500 4v4 Open
WardiTV582
IndyStarCraft 246
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 254
IndyStarCraft 246
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36359
Rain 7288
Horang2 1766
actioN 1164
Hyuk 991
EffOrt 934
Larva 509
Light 429
BeSt 408
Snow 312
[ Show more ]
ZerO 252
Leta 171
ggaemo 170
Soulkey 160
Rush 128
Barracks 107
Pusan 100
Hyun 93
Mind 84
Sharp 80
sas.Sziky 56
Sea.KH 51
ivOry 44
sorry 35
Nal_rA 31
Backho 24
soO 23
Movie 20
JYJ20
Free 15
Sexy 14
Sacsri 11
Noble 9
Aegong 8
Terrorterran 8
SilentControl 7
Icarus 6
Shine 5
Dota 2
singsing3327
Gorgc2203
qojqva806
XcaliburYe154
420jenkins123
Fuzer 78
Counter-Strike
zeus304
markeloff153
flusha92
oskar48
edward44
Other Games
tarik_tv7771
gofns7670
B2W.Neo1190
crisheroes494
FrodaN483
hiko360
Lowko232
Hui .213
XaKoH 82
Mew2King51
NeuroSwarm29
Trikslyr23
EmSc Tv 15
ZerO(Twitch)10
Liquid`VortiX1
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
CasterMuse 21
Other Games
EmSc Tv 15
StarCraft 2
EmSc2Tv 15
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV214
League of Legends
• Nemesis2345
• Jankos1309
Other Games
• Shiphtur7
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
13h 54m
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
18h 54m
RSL Revival
20h 54m
Reynor vs Cure
TBD vs Zoun
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 18h
RSL Revival
1d 20h
Classic vs TBD
Online Event
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.