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Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
February 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#21
If you prefer to work on your own, database administrator is a better role. With modern agile programming techniques the days of hiding in your bedroom and coding are over. You need to be able to deal with people.

The best entry point into both professions is just to do a straight up computer science degree, at least that way you will get a flavour of most topics.
The poor are thieves, beggars and whores, the rich are politicians, solicitors and courtesans...
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 01 2013 05:37 GMT
#22
I know it's a hard pill to swallow.

But you really should never do a degree just so you can have a job afterwards.

Bad economy or not, you should only do something that you are passionate about.

The days of straight forward career planning and progression is over. What happens if you finish your degree just in time for the next dot com burst? Are you going to do another degree so you can get a job? how many 4 years do you have it in you.
Rillanon.au
Scorpion77
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
98 Posts
February 02 2013 03:13 GMT
#23
On February 01 2013 14:37 haduken wrote:
I know it's a hard pill to swallow.

But you really should never do a degree just so you can have a job afterwards.

Bad economy or not, you should only do something that you are passionate about.

The days of straight forward career planning and progression is over. What happens if you finish your degree just in time for the next dot com burst? Are you going to do another degree so you can get a job? how many 4 years do you have it in you.

I'm quite sceptical about this approach - IT is never going to go away, it's like banking or accountancy, we will always have computer systems and specialists are needed to maintain them. If I were following my heart I'd do a degree in Modern History with Ancient History but what kind of jobs can I get with that? It's really only for my own interest.

Could you elaborate? I am genuinely interested in your views on this.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 13:28:48
February 02 2013 13:17 GMT
#24
On February 02 2013 12:13 Scorpion77 wrote:
I'm quite sceptical about this approach - IT is never going to go away, it's like banking or accountancy, we will always have computer systems and specialists are needed to maintain them.


IT is not going to go away, you are right on that, but well paying IT jobs are not easy to get into, especially with all the out sourcing killing all the junior / entry level positions. But hey, if you are happy doing help desk or servicing computers that's fine, but once you hit 40 you will find hard to compete against younger guys and the money really isn't that good at the bottom.

The truth is to make any decent career in IT these days, you have to be really really passionate about the technology and the industry, right now your entire thinking revolves around money which is okay for the first few years but what comes after that?

You will get burned out, and chances are you won't be as good as the guys getting the mega bucks because the passion just isn't there.


If I were following my heart I'd do a degree in Modern History with Ancient History but what kind of jobs can I get with that? It's really only for my own interest.

Could you elaborate? I am genuinely interested in your views on this.


If you have a passion for history then academia... study hard and join the faculty, if you don't know that already then I'm sorry bro, you don't have the passion, you just have a fascination, don't confuse the two.

Passion is what drives you, it's what keep you up at night, it's what you spend all your spare time on, money/job are just an extra, passion is dive deep down into that field even without a promise of a career.

It's so fucking cliche but it's so true.

PM me if you want to discuss further, I work in IT and I've being around long enough and witnessed plenty of guys deciding on a career based on job prospect and burning out after a few years on the job, don't be one of them.
Rillanon.au
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
February 02 2013 14:42 GMT
#25
On February 02 2013 22:17 haduken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 12:13 Scorpion77 wrote:
I'm quite sceptical about this approach - IT is never going to go away, it's like banking or accountancy, we will always have computer systems and specialists are needed to maintain them.


IT is not going to go away, you are right on that, but well paying IT jobs are not easy to get into, especially with all the out sourcing killing all the junior / entry level positions. But hey, if you are happy doing help desk or servicing computers that's fine, but once you hit 40 you will find hard to compete against younger guys and the money really isn't that good at the bottom.

The truth is to make any decent career in IT these days, you have to be really really passionate about the technology and the industry, right now your entire thinking revolves around money which is okay for the first few years but what comes after that?

You will get burned out, and chances are you won't be as good as the guys getting the mega bucks because the passion just isn't there.

Show nested quote +

If I were following my heart I'd do a degree in Modern History with Ancient History but what kind of jobs can I get with that? It's really only for my own interest.

Could you elaborate? I am genuinely interested in your views on this.


If you have a passion for history then academia... study hard and join the faculty, if you don't know that already then I'm sorry bro, you don't have the passion, you just have a fascination, don't confuse the two.

Passion is what drives you, it's what keep you up at night, it's what you spend all your spare time on, money/job are just an extra, passion is dive deep down into that field even without a promise of a career.

It's so fucking cliche but it's so true.

PM me if you want to discuss further, I work in IT and I've being around long enough and witnessed plenty of guys deciding on a career based on job prospect and burning out after a few years on the job, don't be one of them.


So true.

It comes down to:
Don't work for money, work in a field you enjoy and that you have passion for.

For young people it often looks like all revolves around making money but once you start working in jobs where you hate every hour of it eventhough you get paid well, you'll soon find out that you'd rather work for half the money but actually enjoy the work you do.

Also, money often comes with passion. If you love your work, you eventually become good at it and usually more skill also means more money. If you hate your job you'll never be great at it, so you'll stay on the bottom of the ladder.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
February 02 2013 16:59 GMT
#26
Pro gaming is something that is very risky. Some people think that because they are good in a certain game they should try to go professional in it. But you have to have a lot of drive and willpower to actually make it. Playing the same game 12+ hours a day, entering online cups in hopes that you'll win that $50, trying to get your name out. You'll also need to know how you are going to survive. Streaming? Living in your parent's basement until you win an MLG? Big questions.

There was a guy on reddit who took a year off from school and tried to go pro in SC2. He never accomplished much other than round 3 in an MLG. I say it's not worth the risk, but if you have enough passion for it more power to you brother.

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