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sunglasseson
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 07:32:26
January 25 2013 07:28 GMT
#1
I'm not sure if this is so much of a blog as it is boredom expression but I suppose if there can be 300 "girl I like doesn't know I like her but I like her a lot and whats it feel like to kiss a girl" blogs I can write what I'm about to write.


---------- New gamer friends suck. I don't mean they suck at the game (thought they might) I mean for some reason they are not interesting. Like the movie Death Race 3 and by extension any movie that Jason Stathem is in, I can't stay interested in anyone to the point of wanting to keep on hanging out with said person, very similarly to how I will not see 'Parker'. Your movies are awful, you owe me an apology and a birthday present.

"Oh well you know that I know you like fantasy stuff so i got you 'In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale' which seemed right up your ally".

No ant Dee its not up my ally, and if you only know how bad that movie was you would have wiped that smirk off your face like you did a good job, you DIDNT do a good job and I cant believe I bought you a digital recipe reader for 250 bucks but i digress....

It almost feels like to me we use each other then move on when we are done with the game we met on. Tbh it ends up being me more then other people that "removes them from Skype" never to speak to them again and it's not because I'm an asshole or they are, its because I take a very logical (imo) view of the persons worth to my time and just come to understand that outside the game, they suck to be around. Bad taste in music, aggressive, too serious not serious enough pick your reason I just don't find anyone i meet lately online to be "worthy" of my friendship. This sounds harsh but you don't control what type of people you like. If I am into small women or large women I didnt control that, genetics or whatever else did, friends are no different. The next part some of you prob are familiar with.....

---------- Old gamer friends from a young age. Thats my crew. Its a few guys i met back when i played runescape in 2004+. Many of us have split off over the years but there are 3 of us left and I just dont enjoy playing games with anyone else. They are not the smartest people I have met, they are not the best gamers but for some reason I just have the most fun with them. Here's the problem though, its starting to get stale. The personalitys of the remaining friends I'm sure you all know

The Perm No Lifer - Hes the only other gamer in the group close to me in skill level on the various games we played, me and him were Rank 1 in wow, we were the best Pkers in our teams on runescape and then in sc2 we were the ones to get masters+. He games all day every day. Hard to do without rich parents as you may know. He wont play sc2 anymore because its too hard/causes too much anxiety and has moved on to a genre I detest, Moba games but more specifically dota2. Hes getting a job now, which will cut into our gaming together but its about time.

The Recovering Hardcore - He was once a hardcore gamer. He was NOT a good gamer but played often and thus gets the title "hardcore" thought I submit that to be a hardcore gamer you must also be good, semantics ill let it go for now. He played runescape and wow, bloodline champions and actually along with me was one of the best US players (though it was a dead game its not much to brag about) and was diamond in sc2. Hes going to school now (late in life but better late then never) and basically getting his life back together that he once "put off" for gaming. He doesn't like sc2 for the reasons "The Perm No Lifer" does and basically any competitive game he seems to shun. Not as fun anymore to game with due to this so -1 to your crew of multiplayer online games

The Console Migrant - He was once the biggest roleplay nerd that just swore off PC. He cant devote the time to more specifically WoW and doesnt like how hard Sc2 is (though he loves the campaign) You wana play with him, get an xbox. Tough because we all still do pref PC over consol. Cross another reliable old friend off your gaming sched.

The Baddie - He was a good friend back in runescape but guess what, he sucks. Him sucking at all the games for so many years broke him. He doesn't want or can't handle these games and because of this became the groups "guy you hate". We all have friends we pick on, hes that guy. Its deserving because being that he knows people who play these games very well, he often speaks of things he cannot do and many times in a condescending or instructional tone. Im sure many of you cringe when someone whos really bad at something, starts to TEACH at you the thing you happen to be VERY good at. Someone you can invite to your game much to the chagrin of those in the skype call currently.


This is my crew and its just slowly dying. Is it that we are getting older? sure. Is it because multiplayer online games are not as fun as they should be? I like to think this is the better answer. I remember playing super smash bros with kids in my area and having a BLAST. James bond, mario party, perfect dark. These are the video games that were fun because you didn't need hours to learn all the strats, you didnt need to earn the good guns, and you certainly didnt need to win to have fun. The gamers I meet now care only about a few things....

Winning

That's it. Semi anti climatic right? 1 thing. Yeah I could have wrote a few things to make that prev comment involving "things" which is plural but why are you dwelling on that still? Move on man were past that.

That's what gamers care about. They dont want to have fun, they dont want to meet people, they want to meet goals. The fact that I'm a human would be of no interest if these gamers could meet the goal of said person and have that goal play the character instead. I recently came back to try MoP and literally every person I met was an entitled, egotistical, self serving, and most importantly bad gamer who didn't even play for fun? Can you imagine playing a bad game, no a HORRIBLE game that no one likes and then yelling at people, raging, searching for "players more of my skill level" for nothing?

Knowledge is a byproduct of time spent
Skill is a byproduct of knowledge
Fun is a byproduct of winning (maybe)

This is what I see gaming as today and it saddens me. I yearn for the days when games were played for fun when fun was a byproduct of playing the game and you could meet people who felt the same way


Edit- I hope its legible lol, im pretty damn tired

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FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
January 25 2013 08:56 GMT
#2
I know exactly what you're going through, all of my gaming click instead of the consoler/"baddie"(i use the term lightly because he wasn't much a of a "gamer" as opposed to someone who enjoyed very specific RPG games like final fantasy and Kingdom hearts, plus he occasionally played games on his moms old old NES. He was just not hardcore with multi player games and is just now really getting into the whole "online multiplayer" without me queuing us up with black ops 2 even though hes almost 25.) Also I'm not saying console games are bad, because before I got a laptop that can play most games before 2005, I'd bring my console/game boy with me where ever I was going to game on the go. Console just don't do it for me anymore because of the artifacts and lack of any real video controls since everyone have the same "hardware". Also can't take pride that "so and so game" gets XX FPS on max settings.

I have a few friends I found this last year to fill the void through skype but most are also baddies(true sense of the word, they've played almost every game you could think of yet suck at all of them, the kind of people who use 1 build to get to platinum in sc2 but outside that 1 build know absolutely nothing about any race/general strategum. Or the type of people who play an MMO with 20+ skills and pick 3-4 of them they just spam over and over then complain when they get their asses handed to them) It just seems to me that we are a dying breed, the casual is moving in and with the casuals the terms get all mixed and companies priorities change.

I can still remember going to my friends house and comparing what cheats we'd unlocked for golden eye and trying to beat our best times in mario kart and pickin up our sticks and smashing each others brains in for hours playing fighting games. Not to mention the time we wasted on those beat em up multiplayer action RPGs like Gauntlet Legends, Diablo Series, and more. Now I go over and all I see are the same baby achievements my grandma gets "Hooray you've just got an achievement for turning on your xbox!!!!!!". Honestly it is like they baby us with this crap making casuals feel good about themselves because they spent 30 minutes leveling a character to level 10 in an RPG where the max level can take a month or so of dedicated grinding to reach. They just give you shit for simply playing the game. I remember when the makers didn't give you achievements, but rather the gamers made them up themselves.(Limited to half a clip of ammo, can't let my hp drop below 90% on this really hard boss etc.) Coming back as an example to golden eye, my brother borrowed my Golden Eye while he was in college and when he gave it back I looked at his save file and most of his room mates and him had completed some of the hardest challenges possible to get all those cheats. I remember just staring in awe at their prowess.

Not to mention the quality of games/opponents man omg. I was playing Black Ops 2 with my friend and he was going on and on about the graphics and how awesome they looked.....I showed him World at War on my PC and he was blown away by how good it looked even though its 2-3 years older then the B Ops 2. Now he never stated that he thought the ps3 was better then the PC, just that for him since hes so tight on cash its easier to buy a console. Also the general skill level of people is just going way down because there are so many more frat boys and casuals playing online simply because the ease of access. I can play against people who have prestiged in call of duty and just let my natural FPS skills take over(played a ton of COD4 mp plus CS/DoD/Unreal Tournament and then quit and only got WaW because I enjoy WW2 games.) and easily go 1-1 or even something like 3-1 against them each spawn.

With all that said I bid you aideu, and sorry it if it unintelligible, it's 4:30 am and my brain is fried after grinding out gear on an MMO.
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Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
January 25 2013 09:10 GMT
#3
Maybe it's because you refer to people you met in 2004 as "old gamer friends from young age".
When I was young, there were more hairs on my balls, than pixels on the screen. None of the old friends from back then fit into any category you're presenting here :-)
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
January 25 2013 09:18 GMT
#4
You complain about gamers only caring about winning yet you make sure to tell us how good you were at various games and basically the first thing you list about all of your friends is their skill level.
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sunglasseson
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States145 Posts
January 25 2013 09:41 GMT
#5
because they dont like to play games since they are bad where as i dont care about winning even tho im good :/

and yeh im just describing my crew atm lol. ive met other ppl gamer crews and they do share similar qualitys
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1757 Posts
January 25 2013 11:24 GMT
#6
luckily I've met a few people throughout my BW days that I am still in contact with, either every day or every other week, despite us barely playing anything together.
If you've got a good friendship going with some of these people it doesn't really matter too much to always play with them, at least for me.

My best friend actually lives in South Korea and hence we have problems playing together without lag, depending on the game. If we play BW, everything is fine but we don't play BW anymore. Playing League of Legends on the North American server gives us both a high ping, which is especially annoying to me when I usually play on a European server where my ping is only a about a 9th of the ping there.
Yet we chat pretty much every day, after knowing each other for about 6 years already.
LML
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 25 2013 11:55 GMT
#7
well you refuse to play dota2, which is an epic team chat game, and probably avoid console-esque team games such as battlefield, l4dead. it sounds like you wouldnt play minecraft either, which would be too "casual" for you, and you don't seem to want to delve into any other oldschool MMOs since nothing can be better than runescape.

games aren't that great but if you try to explore them you will still find a huge range of super fun times. just look at the yogcast/tb various channels and see how many dozens upon dozens of fun times they have in an unknown variety of mp games
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 25 2013 12:21 GMT
#8
Playing random shitty custom games on WC3, on even random cheap MMOs was always fun when done with a group of friends. It really isn't about the quality of the game. It's really weird how you complaing about them not wanting to have fun while having that elitist atitude. You kept mentioning SC2, but that only one game, people are allowed to not like RTSs, while you mentioned several other games they liked but you wouldn't play. It doesn't have to be anyone's fault, sometimes people just drift away from each other, but it seems focusing too much on what you find is wrong on their lifes.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 15:06:05
January 25 2013 15:04 GMT
#9
What you speak of is no new phenomenon, I feel like most people moderately involved in online gaming with a modicum of observation skills can see the situation. How exactly we have come to this, though, is not as easy to explain. Gaming and the Internet in general becoming more mainstream, the subsequent decline in quality in video games and media as an attempt to cash in on said phenomenon, the very anonymous nature of the Internet... Hey, there's also the politically correct bullshit-feeding parents and teachers that bring up spoiled egotistical brats who think they're a special snowflake and their existence makes a difference. I could go on and on about what caused this generation of obnoxious, ignorant little cunts to exist but I feel it's not the main topic here.

I will note however the massive irony here.

In the past, we used to play really well-designed and interesting games *for fun*, with friends. Sure, we competed, but it was friendly, and getting better at games that (fortunately enough) happened to have a high skill ceiling and a lot of interesting mechanics (some accidental, some not) that basically allowed you to outperform the other guy, that wasn't the #1 goal. We made friends online, had clans/guilds and enjoyed playing.

In the present, people who are noticeably terrible at video games play poorly-designed uni-dimensional cashcows and prioritize whatever they perceive as "skill" in said games as the be all end all of all players' self worth. Kids that are either young and shallow enough to disregard games more than a few years old because of their graphics (although they still play Minecraft because it's the cool, hipster choice ^^) or tryhards that got their asses raped so fucking bad in a legitimate competitive game that they had to resign to these newer, terrible games while still trying to prove their self worth by beating random strangers on the internet and then BMing then and acting holier than thou.

Gonna stop ranting now. ^^
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thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 16:18:55
January 25 2013 15:57 GMT
#10
You should really try Dota 2, it's a really fun and expansive game that you might find challenging in it's on way. Good apm never hurts, go Meepo, Chen, Enchantress, Visage, or Invoker
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sunglasseson
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 21:08:44
January 25 2013 21:04 GMT
#11
i played league and dota and it was fun but of my gamer crew one of them only cared about winning, the other hated that there was hardly any pvp and u just farm a large portion of the time (which i disliked too). the 3rd hated the fact that to play he would have to learn character dynamics such as how to lane vs a counter to vlad as vlad or just a hard matchup because getting destroyed in lane isnt fun nor is a teamate feeding and ruining the game

league may not be a hard game to learn but one cannot deny that knowing leblancs cd is 20 seconds and your q is 6 thus giving u 3 hits to his 1 is a big deal that the avg person wont know

games are fairly hardcore nowadays
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