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Why Pokemon X/Y is Going To Be Awesome

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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 14 2013 23:58 GMT
#1
Hey everyone! The N3rd Dimension is back again this Monday with a stalker-esque rant about how FUCKING PUMPED I am about Pokemon X/Y, the recently announced and hopefully awesome upcoming Pokemon game. LET'S GO.



Have you seen it? HAVE YOU SEEN IT?! THE TRAILER?! THE BEST TRAILER?!

Sorry. I’m a bit excited. But only because 2013 is going to be the best year ever. EVER. BELIEVE IT.

Why are you looking at me like I’m insane?

Perhaps I need to slow down. To breathe. To mention what I’m talking about. *deep breath*

Pokemon X & Y. The Sixth Generation. Another new Pokemon experience (okay, fine… as new as they get). A new Region to explore. A new League to challenge. And, of course, a bevy of new Pokemon to catch, train, battle, and love. Have I mentioned I’m a bit obsessed? Yes? Well, bear with me anyways.

To those familiar with the franchise, this news may not be very exciting. “Fine, it’s a new Pokemon. But they’ve never really been new. They’re always the same game, just with better graphics each time. The gameplay never changes, and the story only barely does. All you get are a few more Pokemon.” This isn’t untrue. Most likely, Pokemon X/Y will still be extremely familiar. To put it in the most positive light, Game Freak (Pokemon‘s development team) sticks to its guns: while Pokemon spinoffs are have occasional changes or innovations, the core series remains unchanged. As I mentioned before, the only real advances are made by way of graphical enhancements. Yet even these advances are dictated by Game Freak’s platform of choice, which is always Nintendo’s latest handheld. This time around, that platform is the 3DS.

However, unlike the Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, and DS, the 3DS has extraordinary significance for the series. It means Pokemon… in 3D. No, not James Cameron 3D; I mean Ocarina-of-Time-style 3D. This may be (extraordinarily) behind the times, but guess what? Realize it or not, this is what you’ve wanted since you became the Champion of the Kanto Region. You’ve wanted the Pokemon world to truly expand, and, now, it finally could.


Over the years, the Pokemon franchise has grown up. Most noticeably, its graphics and sound have improved exponentially since we listened to the incomprehensible beep-boops of the original game’s endearing but foul-looking sprites (Gen 1 Charizard: Not badass). By Black 2/White 2, everything from our itinerant pre-teen avatar to our team of “pocket-sized” beasties became brightly colored, impressively animated, and sonically pleasing (if, perhaps, inaccurate). Even Pokemon‘s barely-existent plot has evolved significantly since the days of Team Rocket. As I’ve discussed before, the Fifth Generation of games actually started asking relevant questions like “Are we enslaving these intelligent, powerful creatures?” and “Why aren’t these ten-year-olds in SCHOOL?!” The climax of the B/W storyline actually made me gasp, since I didn’t expect a twist in the Pokemon formula (and it was pretty badass). There’s an incredible Pokemon competitive scene as well, which (to me) is one mark of a mature and complex game.

Yet, for over a decade, one element of Pokemon hasn’t changed at all: the way we view the world. Out of battle, we hover, omniscient, above our wee Trainer, directing his/her movements on winding Routes, over rock-covered mountains, and through Trainer-infested forests. In battle, we watch from the shoulder of our Pokemon, as if we were the Trainer behind them, directing their battles and staring down our foes. Finally, looking through our bag is a set of menus, more organized and complex as the years go on (our pockets grow larger, our Pokedexes more functional). That’s it. In the recent generations, there is the occasional quasi-cinematic set piece, a picture that conveys some of the world’s depth, but these are few and far between. We are stuck, stuck above heads and behind shoulders and in menus. Stuck moving up, right, down, or left. We’ve been stuck there since Kanto.

Pokemon X/Y and its 3D setting is an opportunity to change ALL of this. A mountain will no longer be a series of planes with zone-changing staircases. Now we can climb! Reaching a peak is less of a puzzle of staircases and more of a decision on what path to take. The tall grass, perhaps the most important environmental feature in Pokemon, is no longer a tile that swishes around slightly when you step on it, inexplicably rife with Pokemon. When your avatar enters three-dimensional grass, it’s substantive and deep: you actually don’t know what’s in there. It could be a Poochyena, it could be a Pikachu, but either way there’s a sense that there could be something in that grass with you. Imagine if exploring Viridian Forest had been as creepy and dark as the rumors and the (surprisingly evocative) soundtrack implied. The reason it wasn’t was that you could see the path ahead, the way out, and every person along the way. With a 3D, behind-the-character perspective, you can’t see everything around you. This change to the in-game visual information adds so much to the discovery and exploration theme of the Pokemon IP; now, there’s so much you won’t see until it’s already upon you.

Then there are the battles themselves, the entire strategic focus of the games. To be honest, it’s not as if the 3D aspect is going to add any strategic depth to Pokemon, but it is going to add flavor. Yes, the Moves/Pokemon/Items/Flee UI will still be there; it’s unlikely that you’ll be able to issue voice commands to your Pokemon in this version (… but Game Freak pls). However, there will also be two Pokemon… standing. Against each other. And when they attack, the fire, electricity, leaves, or water will arc across the battlefield, striking the opponent and inflicting visible damage for the very first time. For years we’ve seen sprites flash and life bars decrease, but (other than in Pokemon Stadium and its associates) we’ve never seen Pokemon hit each other. One of the coolest parts of the Pokemon universe just got so much cooler. You know what else two adjacent sprites have never conveyed? SCALE. You may have read the Pokedex, you may know intellectually how large a Gyarados is, but you’ve never SEEN that in the game itself. Nope, for us, our Pokemon has always been the bigger one, just because of the space it takes on the screen. But, with a 3D engine, we could actually see a Dragonite towering over your Koffing, witness Dialga casting his massive shadow on your Piplup. For the first time, the dimensionality of Pokemon can truly be conveyed. Which will change the (Pokemon) world entirely.

Unfortunately, these are only guesses as to what Pokemon X/Y will achieve. The trailer, cool as it may be (to the obsessed), doesn’t show much other than some basic running, battling, and exploring… not very useful for understanding the capabilities of the game overall. Also, frankly, Game Freak tends to disappoint when it comes to innovation; as wonderful as their series is, the fact is that they’ve had so many opportunities to advance the series, but have never taken them. It’s entirely possible that they won’t take this one either. But the important part is that it could happen. We could see something completely new. Game Freak does make use of their current platform, and the 3DS is capable of doing everything I just described. Most importantly, if these capabilities are utilized, how fucking incredible will that be?!

I’ve loved Pokemon since I was ten. But there’s always been something missing. Something that other games have provided. An immersive world. It’s what made games like Legends of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, or Final Fantasy VII, or even Super Mario 64 so compelling. And though Pokemon has one, it’s been the same for far too long. Even as I kid, I knew that if I would love to truly explore a Pokemon world, not just hover above it. Now we might finally get that: a world in which the tall grass obscures what dangers lie ahead, where oceans and deserts are wide and deep, where Haxorus is a giant, intimidating beast.

I’m SO FUCKING EXCITED



You can read this post and many, many more at the N3rd Dimension.

*****
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
arcHoniC
Profile Joined January 2011
United States141 Posts
January 15 2013 00:08 GMT
#2
never finished black and white,

youve motivated me to boot it up

Thanks :D
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
January 15 2013 00:49 GMT
#3
But will it have following Pokemon :o
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 00:50:38
January 15 2013 00:50 GMT
#4
On January 15 2013 09:08 arcHoniC wrote:
never finished black and white,

youve motivated me to boot it up

Thanks :D


It's super good, honest. I have a tough time figuring out whether I prefer B/W or HG/SS, for realz.

On January 15 2013 09:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
But will it have following Pokemon :o


WE CAN ONLY HOPE.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 15 2013 02:48 GMT
#5
i dont like the new pokemon because there is no connection to them. they keep adding new ones, it feels diluted. there is no charm or character anymore.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
January 15 2013 02:58 GMT
#6
On January 15 2013 11:48 a176 wrote:
i dont like the new pokemon because there is no connection to them. they keep adding new ones, it feels diluted. there is no charm or character anymore.


What do you expect with now having 700+ amount of Pokemon? Nostalgia plays a huge role with our experience with Pokemon, and it does get to the limit where we simply are disconnected emotionally compared to the ones we had as children (look at Charmander taking a huge lead in that IGN poll). Maybe they aren't as memorable, but if I had the opportunity to play X/Y, I wouldn't play for the memories, I would play for the fun of Pokemon.
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Csong
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada396 Posts
January 15 2013 03:02 GMT
#7
pokemon crystal will always be the best!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
January 15 2013 03:22 GMT
#8
I'm running a bit behind... the last pokemon I played was pokemon red.

I don't know if it counts but I've also played one of the DS dungeon games (sky one I think).
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quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
January 15 2013 16:24 GMT
#9
I love the Pokemon designs of Red and Crystal the most. Honestly, since gen 3 was introduced (Sapphire/Ruby/Emerald), I've started to lose interest in the franchise mostly because the designs kept getting worse and worse imo. Maybe I'm a bit too nostalgic
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 15 2013 16:33 GMT
#10
On January 16 2013 01:24 quannguyen wrote:
I love the Pokemon designs of Red and Crystal the most. Honestly, since gen 3 was introduced (Sapphire/Ruby/Emerald), I've started to lose interest in the franchise mostly because the designs kept getting worse and worse imo. Maybe I'm a bit too nostalgic


I promise that (with the exception of Gen 3, which is totally the worst) they're DEFINITELY getting better. I mean, if you look at the old ones, they're "not great" (read: totally are, but in a bad way) either. It's usually a nostalgia deal. Diamond/Pearl was super fun,and B/W even more so.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
January 15 2013 16:41 GMT
#11
On January 16 2013 01:33 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 01:24 quannguyen wrote:
I love the Pokemon designs of Red and Crystal the most. Honestly, since gen 3 was introduced (Sapphire/Ruby/Emerald), I've started to lose interest in the franchise mostly because the designs kept getting worse and worse imo. Maybe I'm a bit too nostalgic


I promise that (with the exception of Gen 3, which is totally the worst) they're DEFINITELY getting better. I mean, if you look at the old ones, they're "not great" (read: totally are, but in a bad way) either. It's usually a nostalgia deal. Diamond/Pearl was super fun,and B/W even more so.


Yeah, I agree that Diamond/Pearl and the refined Heart Gold/Soul Silver were indeed a ton of fun to play with, much more than gen 3. The main Pokemon's designs of Diamond were pretty good too (I love the penguin, forgot what its name was <3). Maybe I'll give Black/White a chance when I borrow my friend's DS again
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 15 2013 18:07 GMT
#12
On January 16 2013 01:41 quannguyen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 01:33 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On January 16 2013 01:24 quannguyen wrote:
I love the Pokemon designs of Red and Crystal the most. Honestly, since gen 3 was introduced (Sapphire/Ruby/Emerald), I've started to lose interest in the franchise mostly because the designs kept getting worse and worse imo. Maybe I'm a bit too nostalgic


I promise that (with the exception of Gen 3, which is totally the worst) they're DEFINITELY getting better. I mean, if you look at the old ones, they're "not great" (read: totally are, but in a bad way) either. It's usually a nostalgia deal. Diamond/Pearl was super fun,and B/W even more so.


Yeah, I agree that Diamond/Pearl and the refined Heart Gold/Soul Silver were indeed a ton of fun to play with, much more than gen 3. The main Pokemon's designs of Diamond were pretty good too (I love the penguin, forgot what its name was <3). Maybe I'll give Black/White a chance when I borrow my friend's DS again


Piplup/Prinplup/Empoleon (WATER/STEEL FTW). I don't think B/W will disappoint. Another one where the Water starter is great (though, tbh, I think Torterra is the best in Gen 4; Grass/Ground so gewd)
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 21:13:22
January 15 2013 21:13 GMT
#13
On January 15 2013 12:22 micronesia wrote:
I'm running a bit behind... the last pokemon I played was pokemon red.

I don't know if it counts but I've also played one of the DS dungeon games (sky one I think).

Best Pokemon game by far imo. The story made all the difference.

It helps that I like rogue-likes, though.
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