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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
January 09 2013 21:37 GMT
#21
I'm okay with your casting but not the other guy's ~.`;

whiplash fitiing.
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
January 09 2013 21:40 GMT
#22
On January 10 2013 06:37 KawaiiRice wrote:
I'm okay with your casting but not the other guy's ~.`;

whiplash fitiing.


not a fan of SNM? lol
you guys definitely started off rough, but it's improving, for sure.
great job, esp to you whiplash, I kinda have to agree with Kawaiirice here
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 10 2013 00:19 GMT
#23
People hate on everybody, even the most successful casters. Tasteless, Day9, Totalbiscuit, Wolf, etc. All you can really do is try to be as good as you can be and ignore the people who are just assholes about it.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 10 2013 01:09 GMT
#24
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Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
January 10 2013 01:11 GMT
#25
I feel for SNM. He's a quality guy in a tough situation.

I think 90% of the problems he faces are related to stress. Once the nerves are in control he'll feel more at ease, be able to listen to you better(Whiplash), not repeat what you said.

On January 10 2013 09:19 GolemMadness wrote:
People hate on everybody, even the most successful casters. Tasteless, Day9, Totalbiscuit, Wolf, etc. All you can really do is try to be as good as you can be and ignore the people who are just assholes about it.


This is also true. Nerds think that criticizing people harshly makes them look Alpha and in control.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 02:29:21
January 10 2013 02:25 GMT
#26
the enature pc bang is really good. I like it.

btw do you wear glasses and went there with a korean friend?
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 02:48:05
January 10 2013 02:47 GMT
#27
On January 10 2013 11:25 Chexx wrote:
the enature pc bang is really good. I like it.

btw do you wear glasses and went there with a korean friend?


Lol yes, and my korean friend is SNM

edit: Thanks for all the comments and support guys, it really means a lot to me!
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 10 2013 03:00 GMT
#28
On January 10 2013 10:09 Emzeeshady wrote:
Your casting is not as bad as people say it is. I feel really bad for SNM because I can tell he is trying hard but I know english is not his first language.

If I could give a little bit of helpful advice it would be that you should separate yourselves into two roles. You should do the commentating, the play by play and SNM should do the analyzing after you say what is happening. All the best casting duos do this (except maybe Wolf/Khaldor)

Tasteless - commentator
Artosis - Analyzer
Total Biscuit - commentator
Apollo - Analyzer
Mr Bitter - Commentator
Rotterdam - Analyzer

Anyway good luck guys! also don't ever go to reddit for feedback ><



not to be a bitch, but its analyst ^^
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Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
January 10 2013 03:18 GMT
#29
On January 10 2013 12:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 10:09 Emzeeshady wrote:
Your casting is not as bad as people say it is. I feel really bad for SNM because I can tell he is trying hard but I know english is not his first language.

If I could give a little bit of helpful advice it would be that you should separate yourselves into two roles. You should do the commentating, the play by play and SNM should do the analyzing after you say what is happening. All the best casting duos do this (except maybe Wolf/Khaldor)

Tasteless - commentator
Artosis - Analyzer
Total Biscuit - commentator
Apollo - Analyzer
Mr Bitter - Commentator
Rotterdam - Analyzer

Anyway good luck guys! also don't ever go to reddit for feedback ><



not to be a bitch, but its analyst ^^

I thought it was analytic or analytical.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 10 2013 06:08 GMT
#30
eNature PC Bang reminds me of some old ass team
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 10 2013 12:12 GMT
#31
On January 10 2013 11:47 Whiplash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 11:25 Chexx wrote:
the enature pc bang is really good. I like it.

btw do you wear glasses and went there with a korean friend?


Lol yes, and my korean friend is SNM

edit: Thanks for all the comments and support guys, it really means a lot to me!


Than you were sitting in front of me and my gf. ^^ Two foreigners maybe you remember
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
January 12 2013 04:40 GMT
#32
Semi-bump but I didn't know you blogged/posted here until someone mentioned/linked you in the recent LR thread.

On January 10 2013 09:19 GolemMadness wrote:
People hate on everybody, even the most successful casters. Tasteless, Day9, Totalbiscuit, Wolf, etc. All you can really do is try to be as good as you can be and ignore the people who are just assholes about it.


Agreed.

Sadly that's been more and more the case recently. I say the golden days of LR threads were mid 2011 or so (after people realized hating on Husky wasn't cool).

Nowadays, caster bashing happens to everyone. I definitely think it's important for people to note that if an organizing (especially in Korea) have these English casters, that usually means there are no other better qualified casters.

I definitely enjoy both you and SNM's casting, Whiplash .

In fact, I make sure to tune in almost every time and at least leave the audio on to do something else while listening .

Finally one more thing about negativity on forums.

I'm not sure about others but there was a point in time when I didn't read stuff on the internet but because of what I read, expectations of things changed (negativity or hate bandwagon as I call it). I've been on various forums before and some people have noticed this as well.

There is always room for improvement for things but when people start nitpicking and making everything seem out to be worse than it seems, it can give that same impression to others. While there aren't lengthy or downright hate-filled posts, there's a ton of (unnecessary and nonconstructive) negative one or two-line comments regarding casters that I see in nearly every LR thread.

I wonder if TL can have a bit more stricter rules on criticizing the caster on the LR threads (did TL have more strict rules during 2010-2011? I remember there being more warnings about everything >.>). There's constructive feedback (or constructive anything, really) and there's unnecessary negativity towards a caster or person which can make LR threads tiresome and off-putting to read.

Anyway, you guys both have my support (again, I make sure to tune in whenever I can + when I can't watch, even just listening to the cast is enjoyable) .
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noonfather
Profile Joined January 2013
1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 05:00:49
January 12 2013 04:54 GMT
#33
One other thing to remember is that, particularly when Tastosis were starting, there weren't a lot of other experienced English-speaking shoutcasters to which they could be compared. But now there are a bunch of experienced casting duos to which you're benig compared. So that's tough.

I also think that probably some people are unconsciously jealous.

One thing about SNM's voice. I'm not sure if he just speaks accented English, but I think his enunciation & diction could be improved. Given that you're in essence performers and your instrument is your voice, you want your voice to sound as good as possible. I'm sure there are books & programs on improving that sort of thing -- on my high school debate team, we did drills speaking while biting on a pencil to force us to overenunciate. And people like actors & singers sometimes go to speech therapists. Same thing with high-up execs who want to improve their voice quality. It's not that the actors & singers have speech pathologies, but because therapists have a very good understanding of the voice. Some of them specialize in providing that sort of service.I dunno. It's just a thought. And actually, right now, SNM is sounding more, I dunno, forceful and it sounds good.

Good luck! And I hope you enjoy the experience to the utmost.
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