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Korea, Proleague, part #3

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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 09 2013 15:12 GMT
#1
OK. 3 weeks of casting done. For the most part I have adjusted to living in Korea. It has been awhile since my last blog, so I suppose it is time for another.

After the first 4 days of broadcasting I got to meet up with Wolf, Doa, and Tasteless. They gave SNM and I some great commentating advice before we all had some drinks. I also got to meet cArn later in the evening. Everyone is super chill and yes, Tasteless is just as cool in person as he is on camera.

The next day Wolf, SNM, and I went to a PC Bang called eNature cafe or something. Pretty cool place and I have probably been there at least 6 times since Wolf introduced me to it.

As for adjusting to korea, I got a korean sim card in my phone and have a plan with SK Telecom (yay, my favorite team!), converted most of my $ to won, and picked up a few useful korean words and phrases. I also learned some more about the cultural aspects of korea, and it mainly boils down to: respect your elders. Other interesting things include: Always walk on the left side when possible and use two hands when someone pours you a drink.

We also got to visit the EG-TL prohouse while spotv did a fun segment/interviews with some of the players. It was super fun (and I got to meet Thorzain, very nice guy!) and I even convinced the producer to go to the Team 8 house this friday for another spotv segment and interview with Major. Hopefully we can have that content out for you guys soon!

We also got a chance to check out the OGN studio and meet up with Montecristo and Doa, the current english LoL casters. In addition to that I got to pick up a SICK new keyboard, and slight upgrade to my Filco brown switch. The keyboard is a Leopold FC700R Tenkeyless with brown switches, and I gotta say I love this keyboard to death, never will have to get a new one! I also want to note that the Leopold is basically a newer model of the Filco, since the same guy made Filcos before Leopold bought him out.

I also got a chance to visit the GOM tv studio and watch some up and down matches. There are a lot of accommodations for foreigners there (you can use headphones to listen to the english casters) and everyone is really friendly. I also got to properly meet Khaldor and have a late night dinner after with him after one of the casts. Great guy, and I learned that he was really deep into the wc3 scene and has known players like Grubby for 10 years or something like that. I'll try to make as many GSL matches when I can, so if one of you guys reading this blog sees me there please come up and say hi to me!




Now for some less then happy talk. I know there is a lot of people out there unhappy with SNM and my casting. People on reddit are particularly angry and have requested us to be replaced with more experienced casters. That proleague should have done a better job finding people other than us. Unfortunately for those people, that won't be happening, but we are doing our best to improve as quickly as possible. SNM has had a particularly hard time coping with the criticism and some other personal issues he is dealing with atm, so please try to give him a break guys and let him stabilize.

I have started reading a great book that Doa recommended to me called, "The Art of Sportscasting" which has really opened my eyes to the world of sports broadcasting. There are so many things I can use from there to help analyze my casting and put me on the right steps to improve. Some of the things I will be doing more of over the next few weeks include: Watching my own casting, look for specific errors/things that I say too much/etc. Watch more vods of other casters to get a better feel for thing to say/avoid/general pacing/etc. Prepare much better for the matches. I have a notebook that I have used to record every game I've casted so far (and a few GSL ones), but I think that it is not enough and I need to figure out a better way to organize the information.

Anyway that about sums it up. My computer just came in as well, but I have to buy a new case and monitor for it. Maybe I will stream some hots soon if I have no internet issues at my current place. Oh, I am also looking for a place in Sinchon that i will eventually move to and finally I will have a more permanent location in Seoul! Cheers!

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Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
January 09 2013 15:15 GMT
#2
You're doing a great job in Proleague and I can really see the improvement as each week goes by! Keep it up buddy. Hope you're enjoying Korea
Jaedong <3
Bourne
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom152 Posts
January 09 2013 15:48 GMT
#3
The Starcraft dream, sounds like your enjoying Korea, and hope you both continue to improve.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
January 09 2013 16:40 GMT
#4
When in doubt, don't listen to reddit. In general, I won't lie, you have a lot to work on; though you already knew that and that isn't a problem, and really it is actually something that works in your favor. You are developing your voice as a caster - quite honestly you guys are immensely better than other E-sports casters since SC has a much longer history than other E-sports, which allows you guys to access a wealth of knowledge that other E-sports just don't have - and that voice is going to be shaped by outside voices some. Don't listen to reddit or people that want to critique you just yet. Wait till this round of proleague is over. When it ends, don't go to reddit because that place doesn't have the posting standards you need for improving a cast, go to TL and make a thread about improving. Then, and only then, we will have had the time to actually be able to critique you. Also tell SNM to perk up, he isn't a bad caster . You guys are growing with the community, remember that.
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fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
January 09 2013 16:59 GMT
#5
Great work man, keep it up. Love the effort.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 09 2013 17:25 GMT
#6
Your casting is honestly not bad. Glad things are going well for you Justin... Korea is a blast! :D
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
January 09 2013 17:37 GMT
#7
What poke said
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FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 17:49:56
January 09 2013 17:49 GMT
#8
Yes, you guys honestly aren't that bad in-game, I just feel the weakest part of your guys casting right now is the down time in between games like right before they start. Either way you guys have improved a lot and I think you'll keep on improving. Just keep your chin up and keep pushing, because haters gonna hate regardless, even tasteless and artosis get shit on from time to time. Just wad through some of the criticisms of tasteless when he was working on the GomTV Avertech Intel Classic when he first started.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
January 09 2013 17:57 GMT
#9
Agreed with Poke (and Monk). Also you're definitely improving too. Very cool to hear that the GOM casters have been very friendly (never know in such a specialized field if others will see you as threats). Keep it up and keep working.

Also, never go to redit or chat for feedback. Try to find someone you can trust and rely on to give you good honest thoughts and advice (as well as encouragement).
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 09 2013 18:01 GMT
#10
Your casting is definitely improving. I think every casting duo struggles in the beginning. It's all about finding chemistry with your co-caster. You two will find it eventually. Just look at Wolf and Khaldor for example. In the beginning they weren't the best combo and people gave them a lot of criticism. After casting together for a while they really started to click and are now one of the best casting combos in sc2. More casting experience and time will help you guys out. Good luck!
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PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
January 09 2013 18:12 GMT
#11
I actually enjoy your casting
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 09 2013 18:13 GMT
#12
Go Whiplash (:

You'll do well, good luck watching your own casting, I can't watching me talk whatsoever!
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tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
January 09 2013 18:19 GMT
#13
Love ya man, your casting really leaves me hoping for nothing more; that is to say I think you use your talents quite well and effectively! Korea sounds awesome, have fun!
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 09 2013 18:44 GMT
#14
good luck
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Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
January 09 2013 18:59 GMT
#15
Cool to hear you're getting to know the other casters in korea!

Also you guys are a pretty cool casting duo, just let people get used to your voices!
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
January 09 2013 19:07 GMT
#16
Proleague has been a real treat this year. Ignore reddit, you guys are doing fine.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
January 09 2013 19:14 GMT
#17
Yea. I enjoy your casts as well. They are focused on the game much more than the other boys at GSL that talk often about everything but the game!
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
January 09 2013 20:06 GMT
#18
Like the PL motto "New initiation". This is a brand new thing and there will be some minor tweaking here and there. Also it takes time for people to find a chemistry that works for them. Criticism are harsh, especially when its by your peers, but try to ignore them and keep on improving. Listening to yourself is a good first step. Also continue to support SNM.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 20:29:11
January 09 2013 20:27 GMT
#19
Yeah, people need to stop being dicks in the LR threads.

On a more positive note I always liked your guys casts and I've noticed they've been improving each time.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 09 2013 20:45 GMT
#20
Sounds like its been pretty awesome and stressful at the same time. Good luck in the future! EG-TL Fighting!
Long live the Boss Toss!
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