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[FPL R2] Defending the hill

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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
January 03 2013 21:13 GMT
#1
Round 2 Preview and Analysis

Format

This isn't GSTL ! Key differences are : Best of 7 and pre-ordered maps.
  • Bo7 means that only 4 players per team ever get to be fielded for the losing team (and less or equal for the winning team). So the priority number one is to identify the main line-up of each team as the core players have way more chance of being fielded.
  • Pre-ordered maps favored sniping and less streaks as snipers can be prepared for certain maps. The maps that are likely to be sniped are the 2nd, 3rd and 4th. After that it's ace territory and much less predictable. For you it means that some unexpected players might get playing time but as BW history showed it's very rare (around 1 non-core every 2 matches) which reinforce the importance of core players.
Teams

This is a presentation of my opinion concerning which players belongs to the core members of the team based on previous results and overall fame.

  • EG-TL (6p)
    • Core : (T)TaeJa (9p), (Z)Stephano (8p), (Z)Jaedong & (P)HerO (7p)
    • Second String : (P)JYP (5p), (Z)Zenio & (Z)Revival (3p)
    • Fillers : (Z)IdrA, (P)HuK, (T)PuMa & (T)ThorZaIN (2p)
    • Opinion : They will do better now with a very very experienced core. Their fillers are irrelevant in this format but Revival and JYP might see some playing time. Beware of HerO, he was red-hot last month but I fear he might already have entered the tilt The question is : Will Stephano crush faces or just be average ?

  • KT Rolster (6p)
    • Core : (T)Flash (10p), (P)Stats (7p), (Z)Action (6p)
    • Second String : (P)Wooki (6p), (Z)Crazy-Hydra (5p), (Z)Hitman & (P)Motive (3p)
    • Fillers : (T)BarrackS, (Z)HoeJJa, (T)Mind & (Z)Acacia (2p), (P)MyuNgSiK, (Z)PenguiN & (T)miso (1p)
    • I don't know what to think about KT, results tend to indicate a scary team but Wooki and Crazy-Hydra are almost pure snipers ( & respectively) and as such I don't consider them core players. Still Action and Stats have proven their value over time and will play a lot; on the contrary Motive and hitman won't probably see the light.

  • Woongjin Stars (5p)
    • Core : (P)sHy & (Z)SoulKey (8p), (Z)ZerO (5p), (T)Light (3p)
    • Second String : (T)Sin (5p), (P)free (3p), (P)Flying (2p)
    • Fillers : (P)NaGi (2p), (P)BisAnG, (Z)fOKINS, Hanbin, (T)Rudy & Swift (1p)
    • Opinion : Obviously a very strong team, perhaps even more than KT if Light still has the same level as in the hybrid PL. Sin is a good sniper that might get a lot of playing time while Flying and free could play if they regain more confidence.

  • SKT T1 (4p)
    • Core : (P)Rain (11p), (T)Fantasy (9p), (Z)SoO (5p)
    • Second String : (P)BeSt, (P)Bisu & (Z)s2 (3p)
    • Fillers : (Z)Sacsri, (P)ParalyzE & (T)yeOngJae (2p) (Z)Hyuk, (T)sSak (1p)
    • Opinion : A very good team all-around. I don't understand why it cost one point less than SKT but with the power of Rain & Fantasy as well as the help of soO, BeSt and co. It's hard to see who will play beside the 2 kings but Bisu and BeSt could well be among them.

  • CJ Entus (3p)
    • Core : (Z)EffOrt & (P)herO[jOin] (8p), (T)Bbyong (3p)
    • Second String : (Z)Hydra, (Z)SonGDuri & (T)sKyHigh (3p)
    • Fillers : (P)Bong[S.G] (2p) (Z)rare, (T)Snow & (P)Leta (1p)
    • Opinion : It was somewhat surprising to see them go 3-0 in the first 2 weeks of the round 1, but their 0-4 in the second part is worrying. The matches were close but they still got crushed by T8. With Bbyong and Hydra with losing records the gap to overcome is too big for them to perform until either of them regain some momentum.

  • STX Soul (2p)
    • Core : (T)Bogus (8p), Dear (6p), (P)Trap & (Z)hyvaa (4p)
    • Second String : (T)Last (3p), (T)Classic (2p), (P)Mini (1p)
    • Fillers : (Z)Calm, (P)Comet, (Z)Size & Bear (1p)
    • Opinion : STX struggles a lot because all of its players are inconsistent (even Bogus is only 5-4) But this might be a better round for them. All their core (besides hyvaa who contrary to what his name says in finish isn't any good) can hold their ground against anyone and with a bit of luck, they could end up winning 3 games max. The second string is just terrible though.

  • T8 (2p)
    • Core : (T)BaBy (8p), (P)Jaehoon, (T)Speed (4p)
    • Second String : (Z)Ryul2 & (P)Terminator (3p), (T)MajOr (2p)
    • Fillers : (Z)Alone (2p) (Z)Dream.t)check, (P)Sherry, (P)Haruhi (1p)
    • Opinion : Anemia. That's the main issue here. Speed and BaBy can hold their own. Jaehoon wins sometimes. Let's hope MajOr brings them some win otherwise they are doomed to be at the bottom once again.

  • Samsung Khan (1p)
    • Core : (P)JangBi & (Z)RorO (6p), (P)Stork (5p)
    • Second String : (T)Reality (3p), (Z)Shine (2p)
    • Fillers : (T)TurN, (Z)hOpe (2p), (Z)JuNi, (T)Kop, (Z)BBatta, (Z)oDin(1p)
    • Opinion : I hesitated to list none of them as core players but I was feeling nice. None of their players have a winning record. Shine fell into the abyss and didn't have Flying's teammates to catch him. Tough road ahead for Khan. If their fillers can get somewhat relevant, they might win more than one game, I wouldn't bet one it though.



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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 03 2013 21:20 GMT
#2
Puma will come out as a sniper, his knack for crazy all ins will make him a steady contributer in a winners league format. For your low point picks look for guys who have a niche to fill, like puma for example.
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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
January 03 2013 22:33 GMT
#3
How, when, and where can I watch this tournament? I really like watching broodwar, but I have no idea how to watch recent games.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 03 2013 22:35 GMT
#4
On January 04 2013 07:33 jrkirby wrote:
How, when, and where can I watch this tournament? I really like watching broodwar, but I have no idea how to watch recent games.


It's sc2. For broodwar, TLS is starting up soon and I'm super excited for it!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 03 2013 22:37 GMT
#5
Pretty good assessment. Only thing we don't know is how snipers will play into this, if I was a coach, I'd always play the core members because they look way better than the fillers and second string players but it probably won't work that way.

The format is just so damn unpredictable, it's a bit nerve-wracking.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
January 03 2013 22:56 GMT
#6
On January 04 2013 07:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 07:33 jrkirby wrote:
How, when, and where can I watch this tournament? I really like watching broodwar, but I have no idea how to watch recent games.


It's sc2. For broodwar, TLS is starting up soon and I'm super excited for it!


Since when did Jaedong start playing sc2? Aaaah. I'm sure out of touch with this.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
January 03 2013 23:46 GMT
#7
On January 04 2013 07:56 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 07:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
On January 04 2013 07:33 jrkirby wrote:
How, when, and where can I watch this tournament? I really like watching broodwar, but I have no idea how to watch recent games.


It's sc2. For broodwar, TLS is starting up soon and I'm super excited for it!


Since when did Jaedong start playing sc2? Aaaah. I'm sure out of touch with this.


All of KeSPA switched to sc2 ^^;
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 04 2013 08:29 GMT
#8
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 05 2013 09:42 GMT
#9
solid analysis :D
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