• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:42
CEST 07:42
KST 14:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)27Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double Recent Patches and the Future
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Grand Finals SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ] ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Fantasy returning? BW General Discussion Bot on ladder a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing Where can I find Flash replays that work?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8236 users

A Bird's Eye View Pt. 2 (archive)

Blogs > Liquid`FLUFF
Post a Reply
FLUFFNSTUFF
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States51 Posts
December 24 2012 08:03 GMT
#1
(06-08-2012)

*Notes*
--
Firstly, I'd like to say that I'm very pleased with the reception my last two blogs received. I honestly hadn't thought more than a couple dozen people would value what I had to say. It's very motivating for me to have people express interest in my blogs. I hope that I can continue with the momentum and provide valuable insight and content.

I'd like to make these blogs much more accessible. I'll provide my twitter, where I'll post each new blog: twitter.com/wkbrianlee

Please do contact me with any inquiries concerning topics that I can address. I'd love to help and answer questions.
--

Okay, on to the blog.

I want to reflect, once again, on the ongoing issues competitive and amateur teams face.

The first topic that comes to mind is stability.

Stability seems to be the biggest issue within the DotA scene. Finding capable teammates isn't really an issue. There are plenty of mechanically skilled players out there. It is in my belief that mechanical skill has a cap. At the very least, if not a cap, a threshold.

There are so many other factors that play into creating a successful team. Mechanics are the least of any competitive teams worries. Many teams seem to believe that raw skill and a star-studded roster will produce the greatest results. History has proven, time and time again, that all-star teams very rarely equal results and stability.

There are, of course, exceptions to this theory such as Invictus Gaming. For those of you who aren't as keen on the topic, iG was once two separate teams. Long story short, the club decided to merge their two teams into one. The main issue with the merge was that there were many conflicting roles between the selected members. The second issue was that their roster only had one single established support player. YYF, 430, and Chuan were all amazing mid players. Chuan and 430 were two of the most hyped players at that time, both showcasing intricate and intense micro. However, as we all know, there are only so many core heroes to each lineup. It was Chuan who eventually stepped down to take a supportive role.

The reason why I bring up iG's story is that it segues into my next point. One successful behavior of stable teams is role distribution. In part 1, I briefly describe what the roles are, if you don't know what I'm talking about: http://www.complexitygaming.com/forums/entry.php?b=2021.

Why are roles important and why is it an issue? Roles, in my opinion, are vital to a teams growth. Up until players actively seek competition, they usually forgo playing support.A vast majority of the players out there consider themselves a carry, solo, or ganker. Therein lies a great issue. Players who showcase great amounts of skill through micro intensive heroes often receive praise and recognition. Whilst the support players often find themselves as the pitied "bitches".

So what happens when people prefer to choose carry over support? The disparity between carry players and support players become noticeably great. While you have many great and skilled carries, you have very little impactful and amazing support players.

*****
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2021
Snow 172
910 42
Bale 29
Noble 17
ZergMaN 13
Icarus 7
sorry 1
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm191
Fuzer 19
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox748
C9.Mang0184
Mew2King28
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor1193
WinterStarcraft605
Other Games
summit1g7570
JimRising 620
PiGStarcraft301
ArmadaUGS137
Maynarde129
Sick129
RuFF_SC289
Livibee73
ViBE58
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick602
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream158
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 37
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2227
League of Legends
• Lourlo1224
• Rush1037
• Stunt443
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
4h 18m
OSC
7h 18m
Stellar Fest
7h 18m
OSC
18h 18m
Stellar Fest
1d 7h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Online Event
2 days
FEL
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
INu's Battles
3 days
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
INu's Battles
5 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.