In the spirit of Dec 21 , 2012 I'd like to contribute to the awakening of the peoples; I am purposely not backing up my claims with evidence because I want you to research and find out for yourself - honestly you are the problem if you haven't and don't.
I've been a United States citizen since I was born. I care very much about Freedom, Justice, adhering to the Constitution because it's the fucking Constitution, and Goodwill toward Man.
The United States government is susceptible to selling pieces of itself out to powerful organizations who would love a piece of the pie that unconstitutionally keeps growing bigger. Our officials in the Supreme Court too frequently and wrongfully use Article 1 Section 8 Clause 18 of the constitution to allow the government to do basically whatever it wants. Your rights granted to you by the Bill of Rights are under attack by this out of control government that is claiming to protect you, namely right numbers 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10.
We have 1/20th of the world's population, yet we consume 1/4th of the world's oil. We cut down trees at an astonishing rate. Our government is all over the world and yet we still have plenty of people in poverty and homeless in our own backyard. We need a lot more clean water. Our fruit is imported and often underripe, our livestock is often treated like dirt, and most of the rest is processed and full of preservatives. We have plenty of disease and illness right here at home... we have the world's biggest military but one of the worst health care systems? Even if you can get health care our many of our doctors love prescribing all sorts of stuff you don't really need (and they're not even required to learn nutrition).
We have 1/20th of the world's population but we have 1/4th of the world's prison population. The war on drugs is an utter failure. Ignore what you've been told; the Mexican border is a mess and our coasts aren't too secure either. Illegality effectively forces drug users to supply violent cartels in other countries whose inhabitants are literally begging for our help. Mexico is our freaking neighbor people. Marijuana is a powerful medicine... it could have prevented some of my (deceased) grandfather's diseases, and my mother really needs help with something that marijuana has treated for thousands of years (but it's illegal so she refuses to take it).
The federal reserve (controlled by private bankers unchecked by other branches of government) is constantly making money out of thin air which continuously devalues each of your dollars. Social Security will be gone by the time you retire; see what happens to fiscally irresponsible and unconstitutional personal mandates from the federal government? Germany and Japan our already beating us in terms of engineering. India and China are right behind us in terms of manufacturing and technology, if we don't get our economy together soon enough we may be overtaken.
A ridiculously large % of your tax dollars goes to the Pentagon. The Pentagon spreads our forces thin across the entire world... the amount of energy and resources it takes to supply and keep track of it all is phenomenal. These resources could be used to help us here at home, but instead we sacrifice our well-being so that the large government being controlled by even larger corporations can control the world's resources so that it can keep fueling itself. What the actual fuck?
Our government has a history of creating false incidents to start a war; there are many very smart people/scientists (including entire engineering organizations) that expressly doubt the official 9/11 story, but they're often ridiculed by the media (which has made it a normal thing) even though they have compelling evidence that gets largely ignored. There are FEMA camps all over the country ready for some sort of civil war. These things called fusion centers, all over the country, are monitoring people cataloging all sorts of benign actions in order to profile ordinary civilians as potential terrorists. Did you know the CIA is independent of the government? Private emails and other communication are being stored in truly enormous databases to be called upon if needed. Indeed, the internet that holds all this information itself is under attack by legislation after legislation posing as anti-piracy.
There have been plenty of warnings by many smart & important people - even presidents - and yet the large majority of people just don't seem to care. Our public school systems are terrible at teaching critical thinking to children; so many people believe so much crazy shit and yet a lot of them can't even accept global warming. Science classrooms are under attack by religious fanatics who really dislike the fact of evolution. The mainstream media is largely controlled by special interest groups. There are multiple wars on ideas and information, our best tools to fix these things.
And perhaps the worst part is that almost everyone would rather listen to Gangam Style, Call Me Maybe, or Justin Bieber than give half a shit about just one of these problems. Most of the rest of us are all gogogo never stopping to relax, enjoy nature, and reflect on these things. The most vigilant of those remaining are the people's militias (who somehow have a negative stigma) that the constitution literally tells us to create & maintain... but they can't be a militia if they're unarmed.
Always remember that the government and all politicians answer to WE THE PEOPLE.
“The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” - George Orwell + Show Spoiler [BONUS] +
Which fruits are you talking about? It can't be bananas (they are fruits right?) because banana's are purposefully harvested green so they will be ripe by the time you buy them. If they didn't your banana's would be black and mushy. Also it can't be apples/pears/peaches/cherries because I live in Washington state and there are literally orchards further than I can see.
I don't think it's true anymore that the USA government answers to You the people. Certainly it could again return to answering to the people (if it ever did), but it won't as long as people allow the government to grow so large. And I don't think anything will change in a good way until the USA collapses in some way, whether through war or economic collapse or financial collapse or religious upheavel, any one of which could be coming soon and could be far away. I certainly wish your country the best of luck in sorting itself out but I don't see it changing just because of good words written by well-meaning people. It's very rare to have that happen if you look at history, and I don't see any way that the USA will be the exception.
"I am purposely not backing up my claims with evidence because I want you to research and find out for yourself - honestly you are the problem if you haven't and don't."
The "compelling evidence" you speak of regarding 9/11 for example, is hardly compelling, and based largely on often questionable partial analysis of the official story, or are attempts to prove a political agenda based on a need to prove something that isn't there.
You then move on to claim the Federal Reserve is controlled by private banks with no government oversight, an obviously untrue statement. More to the point, it's a partial truth taken to an extreme and thus couched in the logic of using only a fragment of the truth to attempt to explain the whole. Your point about the CIA is, again, similar to your incorrect view of the Reserve, not an unsurprising occurrence.
All in all, while I understand and appreciate your points (some of which are valid, to be sure), you are exhibiting a very common trait among primarily young "internet warrior" types where your views and beliefs are often decided before looking at the actual facts, or your view of the facts is often a perversion of the truth. It makes it very difficult to dissuade of your extremist ideology with regards to some of your points (9/11, the Fed, false flags being common, science in the classroom etc etc) because the partial nuggets of truth are so well embedded in what you choose to believe.
Lastly, your points in your first paragraph about the Constitution are very likely simply wrong, as its highly unlikely you could construct a solid, defensible legal case about exactly why and how (based on both precedence, logic, and a firm understanding of constitutional history and law) the government is somehow illegally selling parts of itself to large organizations in an unconstitutional manner. More likely than not, the actions of the government somehow conflict with how YOUR perception of constitutionality. Whether in reality they do or not is a subject for debate, of course, and would naturally require far more specific details.
Now, I will say this: The US is a country with great problems. The war on drugs. The education system. Student debt. Social welfare programs. Questionable military intervention. Shady intelligence gathering techniques. The list goes on.
But assuming the government is out to "get us" or keep us down is silly. It's nonsense. The "government" is widely inefficient and insanely slow and bogged down in miles of red tape that it boggles the mind as to how anyone could think the CIA, for example, has the means, time, resources, and willpower to sift through all of your emails for...what purpose, exactly? If the government was capable of even a fraction of the conspiracy theories that exist, or more accurately the perversions of reality that concerned individuals occasionally have, you'd be talking about a quite literally omniscient entity that transcends all known parameters regarding limitations. The government, to a conspiracy nut, is a God. The truth is obviously far from that.
If you say it's time to wake up, I'd say it's time to simply step back and face reality. The government never "answered to the people" in the sense I believe you think it did. The Newsroom rant linked above is quite telling- it's perfect until he starts waxing philosophically on what we lost as a country. It makes for good drama...but it's mostly rose tinted glasses.
"I am purposely not backing up my claims with evidence because I want you to research and find out for yourself - honestly you are the problem if you haven't and don't."
The "compelling evidence" you speak of regarding 9/11 for example, is hardly compelling, and based largely on often questionable partial analysis of the official story, or are attempts to prove a political agenda based on a need to prove something that isn't there.
You then move on to claim the Federal Reserve is controlled by private banks with no government oversight, an obviously untrue statement. More to the point, it's a partial truth taken to an extreme and thus couched in the logic of using only a fragment of the truth to attempt to explain the whole. Your point about the CIA is, again, similar to your incorrect view of the Reserve, not an unsurprising occurrence.
All in all, while I understand and appreciate your points (some of which are valid, to be sure), you are exhibiting a very common trait among primarily young "internet warrior" types where your views and beliefs are often decided before looking at the actual facts, or your view of the facts is often a perversion of the truth. It makes it very difficult to dissuade of your extremist ideology with regards to some of your points (9/11, the Fed, false flags being common, science in the classroom etc etc) because the partial nuggets of truth are so well embedded in what you choose to believe.
Lastly, your points in your first paragraph about the Constitution are very likely simply wrong, as its highly unlikely you could construct a solid, defensible legal case about exactly why and how (based on both precedence, logic, and a firm understanding of constitutional history and law) the government is somehow illegally selling parts of itself to large organizations in an unconstitutional manner. More likely than not, the actions of the government somehow conflict with how YOUR perception of constitutionality. Whether in reality they do or not is a subject for debate, of course, and would naturally require far more specific details.
Now, I will say this: The US is a country with great problems. The war on drugs. The education system. Student debt. Social welfare programs. Questionable military intervention. Shady intelligence gathering techniques. The list goes on.
But assuming the government is out to "get us" or keep us down is silly. It's nonsense. The "government" is widely inefficient and insanely slow and bogged down in miles of red tape that it boggles the mind as to how anyone could think the CIA, for example, has the means, time, resources, and willpower to sift through all of your emails for...what purpose, exactly? If the government was capable of even a fraction of the conspiracy theories that exist, or more accurately the perversions of reality that concerned individuals occasionally have, you'd be talking about a quite literally omniscient entity that transcends all known parameters regarding limitations. The government, to a conspiracy nut, is a God. The truth is obviously far from that.
If you say it's time to wake up, I'd say it's time to simply step back and face reality. The government never "answered to the people" in the sense I believe you think it did. The Newsroom rant linked above is quite telling- it's perfect until he starts waxing philosophically on what we lost as a country. It makes for good drama...but it's mostly rose tinted glasses.
Holy shit. Took the words right off of my fingertips. I'll simply add a meaningless quip I've just made up.
"The Monolith and the Inefficient Machine can oftentimes frighten us one and the same, that needn't mean we confuse the two."
Well what exactly did you expect? We, in all of our knowledge, re-elected a pro-war pro-defense spending president. I guess we could have elected the OTHER pro-war- pro-defense spending candidate. Congress has arguments about video games while 1.4 million children are homeless, people watch Jersey Shore instead of reading the newspaper, and the sheer costs of living keep us in drone mode doing the same dead tasks. People feel forced in their limited free time with their limited money to care only for themselves and their family. And their addictions. All else is secondary. Awareness, blogging, whatever amounts to nothing. It's pretentious, to think you're above the system you're actively a part of. Your computer doesn't run on sunshine; it's either the result of burning coal or environmentally destructive dams.
And no, combined with the Introvert thread, I am certainly not taking issue with you. You are obviously educated and a man of passion. But I feel it is you who does not see the big picture. Caring, feelings, organic home gardens, amount to nothing. Massive forceful change is required and even if we all feel guilt for our abundance compared to the rest of the world, who among us has actually done something remotely meaningful to quell both the nation's and the world's problems?
I am purposely not backing up my claims with evidence because I want you to research and find out for yourself - honestly you are the problem if you haven't and don't.
I skimmed over the rest, and I probably don't 100% disagree with everything you say, but that is never a good way to start writing when you are trying to convince someone of something. I'm envisioned a tin foil hat of some size; if you want to come back at this with credible (i.e. academic) sources I'd be more than happy to give it a read.
"I am purposely not backing up my claims with evidence because I want you to research and find out for yourself - honestly you are the problem if you haven't and don't."
The "compelling evidence" you speak of regarding 9/11 for example, is hardly compelling, and based largely on often questionable partial analysis of the official story, or are attempts to prove a political agenda based on a need to prove something that isn't there.
You then move on to claim the Federal Reserve is controlled by private banks with no government oversight, an obviously untrue statement. More to the point, it's a partial truth taken to an extreme and thus couched in the logic of using only a fragment of the truth to attempt to explain the whole. Your point about the CIA is, again, similar to your incorrect view of the Reserve, not an unsurprising occurrence.
All in all, while I understand and appreciate your points (some of which are valid, to be sure), you are exhibiting a very common trait among primarily young "internet warrior" types where your views and beliefs are often decided before looking at the actual facts, or your view of the facts is often a perversion of the truth. It makes it very difficult to dissuade of your extremist ideology with regards to some of your points (9/11, the Fed, false flags being common, science in the classroom etc etc) because the partial nuggets of truth are so well embedded in what you choose to believe.
Lastly, your points in your first paragraph about the Constitution are very likely simply wrong, as its highly unlikely you could construct a solid, defensible legal case about exactly why and how (based on both precedence, logic, and a firm understanding of constitutional history and law) the government is somehow illegally selling parts of itself to large organizations in an unconstitutional manner. More likely than not, the actions of the government somehow conflict with how YOUR perception of constitutionality. Whether in reality they do or not is a subject for debate, of course, and would naturally require far more specific details.
Now, I will say this: The US is a country with great problems. The war on drugs. The education system. Student debt. Social welfare programs. Questionable military intervention. Shady intelligence gathering techniques. The list goes on.
But assuming the government is out to "get us" or keep us down is silly. It's nonsense. The "government" is widely inefficient and insanely slow and bogged down in miles of red tape that it boggles the mind as to how anyone could think the CIA, for example, has the means, time, resources, and willpower to sift through all of your emails for...what purpose, exactly? If the government was capable of even a fraction of the conspiracy theories that exist, or more accurately the perversions of reality that concerned individuals occasionally have, you'd be talking about a quite literally omniscient entity that transcends all known parameters regarding limitations. The government, to a conspiracy nut, is a God. The truth is obviously far from that.
If you say it's time to wake up, I'd say it's time to simply step back and face reality. The government never "answered to the people" in the sense I believe you think it did. The Newsroom rant linked above is quite telling- it's perfect until he starts waxing philosophically on what we lost as a country. It makes for good drama...but it's mostly rose tinted glasses.
I pretty much agree with you on everything you just said.
Honestly OP I kind of face palmed reading what you just wrote and then saying why you aren't giving evidence.
"I am purposely not backing up my claims with evidence because I want you to research and find out for yourself - honestly you are the problem if you haven't and don't."
The "compelling evidence" you speak of regarding 9/11 for example, is hardly compelling, and based largely on often questionable partial analysis of the official story, or are attempts to prove a political agenda based on a need to prove something that isn't there.
Pretty much all of them are half baked theories that conveniently ignore certain facts of what happened that day, and none of them ever answer the counter arguments that are presented? Building 7, for instance, has been explained a zillion times (it wasn't structurally sound), and when this is brought to one of these conspiracy theorist nutjobs, all they say is "LOL! CONSIDER YOUR SOURCE! THEY'RE RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT!" The reason that they believe and support the conspiracy is not because of anything they see, but rather because the conspiracy upholds their preconceived world view. Observing anything objectively would require them to question the very foundations on which they have constructed their lives, and that is far too difficult and painful a task to follow through with... the idea that we could be wrong is horrifying to most.
And here is a study backing up what I just wrote. [Interesting read, by the way.]
How can you guys say that our government is not out to get us? We have trillions of dollars in debt, and it's only increasing because of an economic idea that has proven to fail in Europe. We consistently have our army all over the world in countries where we're not wanted, there are a handful of bills they've tried to pass in the past couple of years limiting people's ability to speak their minds (NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, Patriot Act), AND we are STILL in the middle of a failed War on Drugs because they believe that when you make a law, people should just follow it.
Most of the replies to this blog are ironic because you guys are exemplifying EXACTLY what Barrin is talking about. I'm more than positive he knew you would respond like that too because i have been tempted to write this EXACT post so many damn times, but I always remember that most people just don't get it.
On December 21 2012 12:42 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Not one person here believes the world ISN'T a mess. And we surrender more freedoms on an annual basis.
Tell us then, hoby2000, with your enlightened awareness and mastery of irony, have you done for our nation and our earth?
My supposed "enlightened awareness" and "mastery of irony" are from doing this thing called thinking. I do it in my spare time so I can move my life forward.
lol gotta love people who wont do the work themselves. you tried bro but sheep will be sheep. i get what youre saying but in the end we can only take care of ourselves and try with those we care about.
ive always tried to have hope with america because freedom is all that matters and as fucked up as america is we still alot of freedom compared to most places. the problem is we have a lot less freedom than people are led to believe in this country and that is what is really sad.
i for one have given up hope in america, the thing that really sealed the deal for me is these school shootings. no one wants to get the the root of the problem which the the psychotropic drugs that many of our kids are put on since being a toddler because teachers and parents want a quick fix and/or they just dont do the research and they believe whatever big pharma will tell them. but no one is even asking what drugs this kid was on, they would rather blame starcraft and try and take away our guns. we have always had guns, other countries have guns. yet school shootings only happen here. no one ever asks because they are afraid of big pharma. our diets and our medications are killing us and no one seems to care enough to even ask the questions. makes me sick and i for one cant wait to get out of this country in a few months.
This reads like a satire. 9/11 conspiracy theory? Check. Unfounded inflation hysteria? Check. Legalize weed? Check. Religious fundamentalists taking over schools? Check. Smug sense of superiority over pop culture? Check. All this needs is a "Ron Paul 2012" and a "Wake up sheeple!", and it'd be perfect.
On December 21 2012 12:51 ParkwayDrive wrote: lol gotta love people who wont do the work themselves. you tried bro but sheep will be sheep. i get what youre saying but in the end we can only take care of ourselves and try with those we care about.
ive always tried to have hope with america because freedom is all that matters and as fucked up as america is we still alot of freedom compared to most places. the problem is we have a lot less freedom than people are led to believe in this country and that is what is really sad.
i for one have given up hope in america, the thing that really sealed the deal for me is these school shootings. no one wants to get the the root of the problem which the the psychotropic drugs that many of our kids are put on since being a toddler because teachers and parents want a quick fix and/or they just dont do the research and they believe whatever big pharma will tell them. but no one is even asking what drugs this kid was on, they would rather blame starcraft and try and take away our guns. we have always had guns, other countries have guns. yet school shootings only happen here. no one ever asks because they are afraid of big pharma. our diets and our medications are killing us and no one seems to care enough to even ask the questions. makes me sick and i for one cant wait to get out of this country in a few months.
On December 21 2012 12:39 hoby2000 wrote: How can you guys say that our government is not out to get us? We have trillions of dollars in debt, and it's only increasing because of an economic idea that has proven to fail in Europe. We consistently have our army all over the world in countries where we're not wanted, there are a handful of bills they've tried to pass in the past couple of years limiting people's ability to speak their minds (NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, Patriot Act), AND we are STILL in the middle of a failed War on Drugs because they believe that when you make a law, people should just follow it.
Most of the replies to this blog are ironic because you guys are exemplifying EXACTLY what Barrin is talking about. I'm more than positive he knew you would respond like that too because i have been tempted to write this EXACT post so many damn times, but I always remember that most people just don't get it.
This world is a mess.
I don't think they're out to get us. I think that people in general are inconceivably stupid and incompetent, and they're just naturally running things into the ground. I think it makes some people feel better to think that there are some groups of masterminds orchestrating all of this, and that if we could bring awareness we could fight against these powers. But realistically, I think this is the natural progression that we will take until we actually realize that a Utopian existence is not possible. The belief in a potential utopia is, in my opinion, the reason behind what we're seeing today, not that some crazy group of people wants to rule the world. And all you have to do is listen to people to realize that they honestly believe humanity is capable of removing all the bad things in life.
So no, they aren't out to get us: they're just dumb.
On December 21 2012 12:51 ParkwayDrive wrote: lol gotta love people who wont do the work themselves. you tried bro but sheep will be sheep. i get what youre saying but in the end we can only take care of ourselves and try with those we care about.
ive always tried to have hope with america because freedom is all that matters and as fucked up as america is we still alot of freedom compared to most places. the problem is we have a lot less freedom than people are led to believe in this country and that is what is really sad.
i for one have given up hope in america, the thing that really sealed the deal for me is these school shootings. no one wants to get the the root of the problem which the the psychotropic drugs that many of our kids are put on since being a toddler because teachers and parents want a quick fix and/or they just dont do the research and they believe whatever big pharma will tell them. but no one is even asking what drugs this kid was on, they would rather blame starcraft and try and take away our guns. we have always had guns, other countries have guns. yet school shootings only happen here. no one ever asks because they are afraid of big pharma. our diets and our medications are killing us and no one seems to care enough to even ask the questions. makes me sick and i for one cant wait to get out of this country in a few months.
Dude, you are ahead of the game. I salute you
Dudes from Cleveland iirc, so I can kind of understand why he wants to leave lol
I really hate how a lot of people are bashing on this line:
I am purposely not backing up my claims with evidence because I want you to research and find out for yourself - honestly you are the problem if you haven't and don't.
People are far too lazy these days and are in the habit of believing whatever bullshit they're fed. If you just read something and take it for fact, that can very often end up being a major mistake.
I am purposely not backing up my claims with evidence because I want you to research and find out for yourself - honestly you are the problem if you haven't and don't.
People are far too lazy these days and are in the habit of believing whatever bullshit they're fed. If you just read something and take it for fact, that can very often end up being a major mistake.
I don't have a problem with that line myself, because I believe it. But it is admittedly dismissive. If you want to be taken seriously, one must cover all bases.
On December 21 2012 13:06 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: I really hate how a lot of people are bashing on this line:
I am purposely not backing up my claims with evidence because I want you to research and find out for yourself - honestly you are the problem if you haven't and don't.
People are far too lazy these days and are in the habit of believing whatever bullshit they're fed. If you just read something and take it for fact, that can very often end up being a major mistake.
I don't have a problem with that line myself, because I believe it. But it is admittedly dismissive. If you want to be taken seriously, one must cover all bases.
If nothing else, it'd be nice to know what he is basing his opinions on. Having that information can then lead to other sources, and so on. Like weed being an excellent medicine. I'm aware of its application in a handful of circumstances, but not aware of it being a cure for anything; I'd like to see where he's getting that information, and if it's even worth looking into, because if his source is High Times, then it's not worth my time to research.