• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:37
CEST 14:37
KST 21:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20257Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202577RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18
Community News
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced24BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8
StarCraft 2
General
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time I offer completely free coaching services What tournaments are world championships?
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign Dewalt's Show Matches in China BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 716 users

What units would you put into an rts?

Blogs > ZaloMonkada
Post a Reply
ZaloMonkada
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 21:25:03
December 16 2012 21:18 GMT
#1
With HotS beta being released, I've thought quite a bit about the units that Blizzard has been releasing for the beta and all the ideas they've had. Many of these ideas are stale, yet safe (widow mine, hellbat, viper, all of these are very similar to brood war units), and some are out of the box and unrefined (tempest, oracle). My question to you all is, what cool units would you want in an RTS? They don't have to be constrained to SC2 or BW, they can be anything!

I'll starrt:

I'd love for a spellcaster that used health as energy. I have no idea what it would do or the role it would function, but it'd be a cool mechanic! Maybe they could be "meat shields" like better immortals and the trade off of using spells is that they lose health and therefore tankiness.

Another cool idea would be the ability to create "walls" like in Age of Empires. I've always thought the idea of a building having no purpose other than blocking space has always been interesting! It'd be a nice alternative to the forcefield, because it provides space control without inhibiting micro! Also I'm a sucker for sim cities

What would you all put in an RTS?

sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 21:21:07
December 16 2012 21:20 GMT
#2
I would put in a unit with no special ability that just moved around and shot stuff. I think that would be an original concept
shikata ga nai
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 22:13:01
December 16 2012 22:09 GMT
#3
I would put in some cool artillery units for the terrans, like a revolving artillery cannon which is really expensive but really hits home with the idea that terrans are the ultimate fortification race, dealing long-range destruction while they create the ultimate defense. Their siege tanks would also be more devastating. They would be able to build fortifications, and powerful stationary defense weapons platforms. Finally they would also gain access to true nuclear weapons using ballistic missiles. Terrans should also have access to tactical bombers.

I would give shield generators for the protoss that extend beyond their base (and mobile shield generators), and in general a dramatic increase in the price and supply cost of each unit, but an associated increase in their power. Stalkers should be powerful, heavy robotic units that have a powerful, rapid-fire photon cannon attack. Colossus would move much slower, but they would have the ultimate in AOE laser weaponry. This is in keeping with the protoss theme of being extremely powerful, but expensive and delicate to manage.

Finally, the zerg would have double the supply of their opponents, and cheaper units. This would be in keeping with being a true swarm race...which is only possible with higher supply. Creep should also do something cooler and more meaningful, like actually slowing down enemy units and having a corrosive effect on their armor. It would allow creep to play a meaningful and interesting defensive role. As far as more interesting zerg units, I would create large burrower worms which could swallow units whole and burrow back underground, and for larger units they could slam them with jagged, razor sharp teeth and burrow again.

I think the zerg should specialize in disease and plague attacks, and should be capable of infesting their enemies. I really liked the original design for the infestor, and how it could take over enemy unit producing buildings, but it was scrapped.

I guess I'm a bit disappointed at how tame and relatively uninspired SC2 is. A lot of the concepts are pretty generic. The infestor's fungal growth is really generic. Spewing out potentially infinite numbers of infested terrans make no logical sense, and is therefore lame. I feel like they could have done so much more. Make zerglings able to stampede over walls and flood enemy defenses. Allow terrans to build defenses against these flooding attacks, which only work for a certain time before they break through. Protoss will need to maintain their shields and defend with powerful technology. SIGH, I guess its just too hard to balance, or there isn't enough imagination.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10154 Posts
December 16 2012 22:39 GMT
#4
bring back the DA. plz. i miss you DA

though maelstrom was OP as fuk.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
FEL
09:00
Cracow 2025
Clem vs Krystianer
uThermal vs SKillousLIVE!
Reynor vs MaNa
Lambo vs Gerald
ComeBackTV 1546
RotterdaM1518
IndyStarCraft 546
CranKy Ducklings191
WardiTV180
Rex138
3DClanTV 112
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1518
IndyStarCraft 546
Rex 138
ProTech58
BRAT_OK 47
MindelVK 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48401
Horang2 8144
Hyuk 3564
EffOrt 1329
Barracks 1046
Rush 800
Hyun 798
BeSt 732
Mini 710
Larva 636
[ Show more ]
firebathero 449
Stork 395
Last 292
Soulkey 249
Dewaltoss 95
ZerO 87
Sharp 48
Free 43
sorry 41
Sea.KH 37
Movie 34
sSak 34
sas.Sziky 28
Shinee 24
zelot 19
soO 19
Icarus 15
Shine 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
yabsab 9
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
qojqva2388
XcaliburYe624
Counter-Strike
sgares283
oskar153
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor293
Other Games
B2W.Neo1731
Beastyqt860
Hui .244
DeMusliM235
Fuzer 163
QueenE39
ZerO(Twitch)17
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH384
• tFFMrPink 11
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3820
• WagamamaTV845
League of Legends
• Nemesis2280
• Jankos1266
Upcoming Events
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1h 23m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5h 23m
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
WardiTV European League
2 days
Online Event
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
FEL Cracov 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.