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Fantasy and Mapmaking

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Parlortricks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States111 Posts
December 06 2012 02:51 GMT
#1
So if you've ever written or tried to write some fantasy novel or short story, you probably had to create a map in your head, maybe you drew it in paint on your Mac or whatever or on paper while sitting at Starbucks eyeing that girl you totally don't have a crush on that works there part-time on Tuesdays through Thursdays and Sunday at six to ten AM. Then you go on with your map, here's the capital Capital City, and here's another town et cetera until you're fulfilled and/or the girl finishes her shift and you go home.

Then you're sitting at home writing your little story and it hits you, you need a mountain range! So you keep working on the map until you're satisfied some more. Maybe you start coloring in a forest, and a river, and all that jazz. Bam! Now you're done and you can finish your estranged doll dedicated to the Starbu-, rather, finish writing your novel.

Or maybe you didn't bother with a map at all and were just using that as an excuse to sit there wishing she would serve you a hot “cinnamon dolce crème frappuccino with extra whip cream” whatever that means you sick-o. Just go over and say hi... it's not that hard.

While other writers will disagree I think it's pretty important to have a map of your world especially if it is going to permeate throughout a number of related short stories or novels. The reason for this is to keep your story consistent. If it takes four days to ride from A to B early in the story but takes a few hours for someone else going from C to A at the same exact distance the story just doesn't make any sense. Having an atlas will help you in this endeavor.

When it is known how much time has passed since they began their journey make sure the distance covered is realistic, I cringe at the amateur mistake of saying your adventurers are now on the east coast... Well if the east coast is a thousand miles away from the starting point and it's only a week into the journey that means they had to have walked over a hundred miles a day. You can't even ride a horse that far that fast (for the record, most modern day horses can travel about forty miles a day depending).

It's kind of like watching any Hollywood hacking scene. It just doesn't work like, there aren't any fancy pants graphics showing what's infected and it's kind of like how I am with stories in general but fantasy specifically. It has to pass the test or else I’m totally turned off. Most expert writers avoid the chronological pitfall altogether and just say something along the lines of “the adventurers got there when they got there!” which I guess is ok, but it doesn't give a scale of how far they actually trekked.

So I started writing my novel with a map I had created in about five minutes in paint. I was pretty satisfied, I knew the borders of the kingdoms and I would make the terrain up as I went along. Well this proved to be a big mistake for me. I figured a three day's ride was far enough, but how far was my character actually going? It's supposed to be a secluded camp but if it's only three days from the capital city it's not all that secluded...

That's when I decided I was going to go and spend some quality time with my map and create the “official” world. That way, I knew the distances and everything would fall into place. Here is what I've come up with.

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Things that need to be worked on:

- Overall polish esp. around the edges of land
- Kingdom borders
- More rivers
- Subtracting some of the desert space

Opinions cartographers?

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shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
December 06 2012 04:39 GMT
#2
Haha, I remember when I was way younger(elementary school), I always liked to write fantasy stories because I was a really big fantasy junkie. (Been re-reading LotR almost every year since 4th grade until I quit few years ago). I was a really shitty writer back then, unfortunately, and by the 50th page, all 210 of the main characters would be dead like twice already.

And looking at the maps was always my favorite part of fantasy books. Every time a place is mentioned, I always flip to the inside cover, or the appendix or w/e, and look where it is. I used to draw quite a few maps too back when I was "writing."

GLGLGL with your work man, that's a sexy map for sure
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#3
A clear map is incredibly helpful for fantasy novels. I remember reading the Belgariad and flipping back to the maps to see where they were going... and not being able to understand the map at all.
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Parlortricks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States111 Posts
December 06 2012 13:16 GMT
#4
On December 06 2012 21:25 synapse wrote:
A clear map is incredibly helpful for fantasy novels. I remember reading the Belgariad and flipping back to the maps to see where they were going... and not being able to understand the map at all.

I haven't read the Belgariad (actually I don't like to read at all which all my friends tell me is weird) but I googled the map and just, wow, haha. It points out another thing I really dislike about maps. At the top, where the landmasses just go off the page. That stuff irks me! How far does it go? What is it like up there? Screw you Tolkien, Eddings, and whoever made The Witcher maps.
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